greenway 3 mil
olofsson 4.75 mil
4th line 7 mil
bryson 1.85 mil
bush 2.75 mil
stillman 1.35 mil
comrie 1.8 mil
e johnson 3.25 mil


roughly 25 mil pissed away on a year where if you had cap space you could take advantage of other teams and decent players
- homiedclown

“At the end of the day, I always methodically go back to, what’s going to help our team get better and what’s going to help us move forward and get us closer to trying to win a Stanley Cup?” Adams told reporters in Nashville. “I feel like I’m a nice person, but I want to win and I want to win really bad and I want to win as much as you can possibly want that. So, will I make tough decisions? Of course. That’s what we have to do.”

No, you don't need 23. I think you need 18 as a minimum.

You're putting an exceptional amount of stress on the org if you're not carrying bench players due to celery overage
- TheSabresTaco

I'm luurrrning, thanks.

No, you don't need 23. I think you need 18 as a minimum.

You're putting an exceptional amount of stress on the org if you're not carrying bench players due to celery overage
- TheSabresTaco

I have seen like 21, but 18 would be absurd.

Adams had you over for dinner too I see
- ieetbred

It's terrible that all these Sabres fans constantly stick up for there own hometown Stanley cup champion general manager.

What's wrong with thse posters?

THEY MISSED THE PLAYOFFS FOR 12 YEARS and it's all Adam's fault for not making a splash signing the 1st month or 2 of the new season.

It's terrible that all these Sabres fans constantly stick up for there own hometown Stanley cup champion general manager.

What's wrong with thse posters?

THEY MISSED THE PLAYOFFS FOR 12 YEARS and it's all Adam's fault for not making a splash signing the 1st month or 2 of the new season.
- Boss34

This is as bad of a spin as it gets on what is actually being discussed.

I have seen like 21, but 18 would be absurd.
- Buff36

Yeah you don't see it. Every so often teams get into binds where they get stuck with dtd injuries and have no cap space to call anyone up.

This is as bad of a spin as it gets on what is actually being discussed.
- washedup20

I don't agree with some of the points made with the bashing but you're right this is a tough spin, too.

greenway 3 mil
olofsson 4.75 mil
4th line 7 mil
bryson 1.85 mil
bush 2.75 mil
stillman 1.35 mil
comrie 1.8 mil
e johnson 3.25 mil


roughly 25 mil pissed away on a year where if you had cap space you could take advantage of other teams and decent players
- homiedclown

this is such a weird post. you don't have to agree with all the money being spent on these players (I certainly don't), but the essence is again disingenuous. Like he doesn't have the ability to shed at any point or not have the foresight to sign these guys.

Some have true roles short and long term, some really need to go, but at the end of the day, if he wanted to spend more money (he did with an un-named UFA forward) he could/would have, regardless of the above mentioned.

Eventually we're going to see the Sabres have to move money in-money out instead of picks. It's nice that we're not up against that wall yet.

It would also be nice if Comrie, Bryson and Olofsson were evaporated from this roster.

Eventually we're going to see the Sabres have to move money in-money out instead of picks. It's nice that we're not up against that wall yet.

It would also be nice if Comrie, Bryson and Olofsson were evaporated from this roster.
- TheSabresTaco

Olaf due to lack of forward signing can’t be vaporized just yet. Unless one of these young guns surprises the shat out of us he is in the top 9 till Quinn is back.

Eventually we're going to see the Sabres have to move money in-money out instead of picks. It's nice that we're not up against that wall yet.

It would also be nice if Comrie, Bryson and Olofsson were evaporated from this roster.
- TheSabresTaco

They could have. Buyouts weren't that costly.

They need to break this cycle of multiyear deals for questionable bottom of the roster talent. Slate is almost clean after this season. They need to make better decisions, and a lot of them, next summer.

I don't agree with some of the points made with the bashing but you're right this is a tough spin, too.
- TheSabresTaco

I am tired of being told how great the future will be, the prospect pool is excellent there is no debating that. The situation for Buffalo is 2 tiered. Terry is a bad owner and Adams, even though its his 3rd year is a rookie GM.

Bad ownership that puts limitations on the organization. It is not a stretch to say he is not respected around the league. This is and will remain a constant as long as he remains involved.

A rookie GM, who still has a lot to learn on the job. From this January on Adams has showed his hand, going all in on drafting, developing and holding. Is this due to Terry handcuffing him or what?

All of this noise goes away from inside and outside of Buffalo the day the team makes the playoffs and competes. The combination of Pegula and rookie GM has failed twice already and the 3rd rookie GM is betting his future on linear progression.

They could have. Buyouts weren't that costly.

They need to break this cycle of multiyear deals for questionable bottom of the roster talent. Slate is almost clean after this season. They need to make better decisions, and a lot of them, next summer.
- Lunaion

Adams won't buyout players because he is desperate to gain respect around the league to get players to entertain the idea of signing there.

this is such a weird post. you don't have to agree with all the money being spent on these players (I certainly don't), but the essence is again disingenuous. Like he doesn't have the ability to shed at any point or not have the foresight to sign these guys.

Some have true roles short and long term, some really need to go, but at the end of the day, if he wanted to spend more money (he did with an un-named UFA forward) he could/would have, regardless of the above mentioned.
- TheSabresTaco

Scotty Bowman says adding depth is the hard part of building a roster, this list above is a very bad group to fill those roles:

Eventually we're going to see the Sabres have to move money in-money out instead of picks. It's nice that we're not up against that wall yet.

It would also be nice if Comrie, Bryson and Olofsson were evaporated from this roster.
- TheSabresTaco

The Sabres are much closer to being a cap team this season then the numbers are showing right now, with all the potential performance bonuses that could be hit, especially for Power and Levi.

It's why any trade they make now will likely be money out - money in type deals.

I can't imagine they want to be carrying over any performance bonuses hit this season onto next seasons cap.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/sabres

They could have. Buyouts weren't that costly.

They need to break this cycle of multiyear deals for questionable bottom of the roster talent. Slate is almost clean after this season. They need to make better decisions, and a lot of them, next summer.
- Lunaion

The two year deals for those three were justified at the time. Comrie you can argue based on having little NHL exp. Not like they signed engvall to seven (frank)ing years.

Adams already proved those short contracts are irrelevant by signing Johnson and Clifton to push those guys out in one way or another

The two year deals for those three were justified at the time. Comrie you can argue based on having little NHL exp. Not like they signed engvall to seven (frank)ing years.

Adams already proved those short contracts are irrelevant by signing Johnson and Clifton to push those guys out in one way or another
- TheSabresTaco

Then why did he sign the players to them?

I am tired of being told how great the future will be, the prospect pool is excellent there is no debating that. The situation for Buffalo is 2 tiered. Terry is a bad owner and Adams, even though its his 3rd year is a rookie GM.

Bad ownership that puts limitations on the organization. It is not a stretch to say he is not respected around the league. This is and will remain a constant as long as he remains involved.

A rookie GM, who still has a lot to learn on the job. From this January on Adams has showed his hand, going all in on drafting, developing and holding. Is this due to Terry handcuffing him or what?

All of this noise goes away from inside and outside of Buffalo the day the team makes the playoffs and competes. The combination of Pegula and rookie GM has failed twice already and the 3rd rookie GM is betting his future on linear progression.
- washedup20

Reasonably fair post.

Then why did he sign the players to them?
- washedup20

Just so I know how to answer who are you referring to

this is such a weird post. you don't have to agree with all the money being spent on these players (I certainly don't), but the essence is again disingenuous. Like he doesn't have the ability to shed at any point or not have the foresight to sign these guys.

Some have true roles short and long term, some really need to go, but at the end of the day, if he wanted to spend more money (he did with an un-named UFA forward) he could/would have, regardless of the above mentioned.
- TheSabresTaco

Adams job is to ice the best team possible under the salary cap

literally 1/3 of the team cap is spent on crap

this is not the first year on the job for the top 5 gm

with tage, skinner, tuch, cozens, dahlin and power

this team should be doing everything to compete for the cup instead of trying to keep up with the pens for the 8th seed


average tenure of an NHL GM is 3.5 years

The two year deals for those three were justified at the time. Comrie you can argue based on having little NHL exp. Not like they signed engvall to seven (frank)ing years.

Adams already proved those short contracts are irrelevant by signing Johnson and Clifton to push those guys out in one way or another
- TheSabresTaco

At least they aren't bigger mistakes, chapter one of KA's book.

They are still clogging the roster and complicating their moves.

Just so I know how to answer who are you referring to
- TheSabresTaco

Comrie, Bryson and Olo

Adams job is to ice the best team possible under the salary cap

literally 1/3 of the team cap is spent on crap

this is not the first year on the job for the top 5 gm

with tage, skinner, tuch, cozens, dahlin and power

this team should be doing everything to compete for the cup instead of trying to keep up with the pens for the 8th seed


average tenure of an NHL GM is 3.5 years
- homiedclown

While being economic, efficient and effective

Retaining salary on Olo and signing Tatar does not meet the threshold

Comrie, Bryson and Olo
- washedup20

When their contracts were signed, Bryson had shown to be a valuable depth defenseman and Olofsson an average complimentary forward. So they were rewarded with short term, show me more contracts.

The Sabres needed a veteran (professionally) goalie and Comrie had solid underlying numbers on an average Winnipeg team. So he got the Bryson and Olofsson treatment.

Same could be said of Lyubushkin, Sabres wanted to get tougher and he had solid defensive numbers.

Last season showed us that all of these players are inconsistent at best and will be pushed out before the 24-25 season begins.

Signing two defensemen, publicly insinuating a trade of Olofsson and no endorsements for Comrie, these mistakes, if you want to call them that, are being pushed away. Every team makes them, and it's important that the swings you make on players like this aren't albatross contracts.

Erik Johnson is whatever but Clifton clearly pushes the depth. Good orgs push their depth when necessary. The Bills do it all the time. They had Shakir and McKenzie but went out for Harty and Sherfield anyways.

I don't mind mistakes if they're small, like the aforementioned players, but he needs to start taking swings at real players instead of fringe guesses.

We're at a different tier of team building now as opposed to last year, and these little adds like the ones we're trying to push out should no longer be acceptable.

That goes for the fourth line, too.

While being economic, efficient and effective

Retaining salary on Olo and signing Tatar does not meet the threshold
- Hank Balling

I have no idea if this is true, but this is my theory.

Terry bought the team thinking this would be a fun exciting project and didn’t really understand how tough it is to be an owner of a sports franchise, especially an NHL franchise.

With the recent struggles of the team and the attendance, I think he’s seen just how difficult it can be and it’s almost becoming too much for him now that Kim is out of the picture.

It’s why I could see the “economical” approach being taken.

Again, just a hypothesis

Agai