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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Aug 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
Especially when the Leafs go flying off the top ropes and drop the elbow on the Pens in the playoffs.
- Zezel

I think the Leafs will punk the Pens in the playoffs if they meet. If the Pens had better goaltending, then it might be closer.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 9 @ 11:10 AM ET
How fair is

Willy and Brodie

for

Magniapane, Hanafin, 2nd round pick(1st round pick if both Willy and Hanafin resign)
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 9 @ 11:14 AM ET
How fair is

Willy and Brodie

for

Magniapane, Hanafin, 2nd round pick(1st round pick if both Willy and Hanafin resign)

- Santo_44


i think that makes the Leafs worse rigtht now.


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
i think that makes the Leafs worse rigtht now.
- senstroll


Yeah hard to win a trade this year with Nylander with that 6.9M cap hit.

I think Tree finds a way to get one of those Flames D by October.

Just Nylander trade is always in the air.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
Yeah hard to win a trade this year with Nylander with that 6.9M cap hit.

I think Tree finds a way to get one of those Flames D by October.

Just Nylander trade is always in the air.

- Santo_44



Nylander, Brodie

for

Backlund, Andersson


Would blow my mind if they traded Anderson, his value to them is greater because he is signed a few years to a solid number and CGY is obviously struggling to sign any talent to term or fair cap hits. Conroy does need to find a way to trade out some of these players who are not re signing so maybe Andersson goes the other way with one for a major trade.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
To the Leafs: Nylander
To the Leafs: Cup
To the haterz: bag of Richards
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 9 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think the Leafs will punk the Pens in the playoffs if they meet. If the Pens had better goaltending, then it might be closer.
- GalacticStone


Sid and Malkin are always frightening. The Pens could miss the playoffs again, or they could be a darkhorse.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
To the Leafs: Nylander
To the Leafs: Cup
To the haterz: bag of Richards

- Zezel

Cap doesn't work
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
The only way that Nylander gets traded is if a top pairing Dman and other players or picks come back. Hanifan, Pulock or the big right-handed D guy from St Louis would qualify. Brodie and someone else would be going with him so Pageau, Mangiponi and a winger from St Louis would be the second piece with either a pick, prospect or bottom six forward or bottom four Dman completing the deal. Money would be reasonably equal or Leafs might actually get some salary cap relief out of this?
- crawfordg


Brodie is a $5 mill cap hit who gets paid $7.5 mill this year so nobody will be taking him unless the leafs hand over picks/prospects themselves.

Maybe at the deadline and injuries convince a team to take him on but otherwise I just don’t see it, not when he’s a UFA at the end of the year.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 9 @ 12:10 PM ET
Cap doesn't work
- Fakepartofme





Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
Brodie is a $5 mill cap hit who gets paid $7.5 mill this year so nobody will be taking him unless the leafs hand over picks/prospects themselves.

Maybe at the deadline and injuries convince a team to take him on but otherwise I just don’t see it, not when he’s a UFA at the end of the year.

- Dozzer


Bear in mind that the salary matters to some teams, but to many the AAV is far more important. Trading that salary to Arizona wouldn't fly. Trading it to the Rangers wouldn't matter. It all depends on if there's interest and need - and Brodie's are best applied on a playoff team that already has some physical edge to it but could use a stable defensive presence.

I would very much prefer not to trade Brodie and instead find a way to insulate him with a physical presence because he is excellent at separating the puck from the carrier but he is not physically very strong, so he can be exposed down low - which we did see against Florida.

That said, he's far from untradeable simply because his salary exceeds his cap.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 9 @ 12:30 PM ET
Bear in mind that the salary matters to some teams, but to many the AAV is far more important. Trading that salary to Arizona wouldn't fly. Trading it to the Rangers wouldn't matter. It all depends on if there's interest and need - and Brodie's are best applied on a playoff team that already has some physical edge to it but could use a stable defensive presence.

I would very much prefer not to trade Brodie and instead find a way to insulate him with a physical presence because he is excellent at separating the puck from the carrier but he is not physically very strong, so he can be exposed down low - which we did see against Florida.

That said, he's far from untradeable simply because his salary exceeds his cap.

- Monkeypunk


Ok to be clear I’m not saying he’s untradable I’m saying that due to his salary the leafs won’t get much of a return for him and it may even cost them to have him moved. I guess knowing who is on his NTC list would be interesting as well.

As for the bolded I would love that. The leafs would have a shutdown pairing that would be truly effective that way. Moving Nylander for a $5 mill shutdown guy, left or right side if getting paired with Brodie, would be nice because that would also come close to opening up the cap space they’re going to need.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
I like the Pens getting Karlsson. Duby is always makes moves and shaking things up.
- senstroll

Karlsson may be the last thing the Pens actually need.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Aug 9 @ 12:46 PM ET
I'm still surprised the Pens didn't finagle more retention in this deal. 13% retained leaves them paying a chonky 10m caphit on a player who is due to regress. If he puts up 100 points again, then he is worth every penny. If his presence is the X factor needed to win a cup, then it's worth every penny of 10m.

If he puts up 50 points and Pens fail to qualify or go deep, then that 10m caphit is going to feel very regrettable.

Good move by Dubas to clear out pylons for an elite d-man, but the long-term verdict is undecided.

- GalacticStone

How’s your wife doing?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 9 @ 12:57 PM ET
Karlsson may be the last thing the Pens actually need.
- mjones242

I'm not sure that's true other than the obvious that they need their goalie not to poop their pants.

Letang had his lowest scoring season since 2009 (PPG)
Petry was their next best point producer and is also mediocre defensively at 31 points

They got rid of their bad contracts and lost nothing of significance.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 9 @ 12:58 PM ET
Karlsson may be the last thing the Pens actually need.
- mjones242


hard to say
or he might be what they need.

but he is a good player who drives 5v5 results. Its a fun trade and makes the League more interesting.


Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs News And Notes: Karlsson/Dubas, Nylander/Hanifin, Minten
- mikeinbuffalo

next time you come to vegas don’t stay at nobu🤦‍♂️

it’s the greedy pencil neck female dog marner of boutique hotels🤦🏿‍♂️

all sizzle no steak🤦‍♂️

what a (frank)ing joke🤦🏿‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:06 PM ET
next time you come to vegas don’t stay at nobu🤦‍♂️

it’s the greedy pencil neck female dog marner of boutique hotels🤦🏿‍♂️

all sizzle no steak🤦‍♂️

what a (frank)ing joke🤦🏿‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍

- Skalapy


the holiday inn express in Sarnia has a machine where you press a button and it poops out fresh pancakes. I love that robot. But on the last day it was out of order and I was sad.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 9 @ 1:09 PM ET
Cap doesn't work
- Fakepartofme

Bullpoop. When the Leafs win the cup this year, the league will make so much revenue the cap will go up by one Billion.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
Bullpoop. When the Leafs win the cup this year, the league will make so much revenue the cap will go up by one Billion.
- Whipper

So three new teams in Phoenix or Mesa or Scottsdale or Tempe or Suckerville?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 9 @ 1:22 PM ET
I'm not sure that's true other than the obvious that they need their goalie not to poop their pants.

Letang had his lowest scoring season since 2009 (PPG)
Petry was their next best point producer and is also mediocre defensively at 31 points

They got rid of their bad contracts and lost nothing of significance.

- AdamFrench

Do they need a goalie to not poop their pants or do they need an improved d-corps with someone who can handle hard minutes and keep scoring chances down?

EK is a phenomenal rover and can put up points if you let him off the leash (which SJS absolutely did), but is he what the Pens actually need?

This feels like Dubas attempting to tilt the ice again with skill. Think Tyson Barrie+.

Letang may have seen a decline last season but he is still very capable of QBing the Pens PP1 (he had pretty much the same numbers as he did 21/22).

It's a super fun trade but I'm not convinced this trade makes the team better overall.

Time will tell.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 9 @ 1:24 PM ET
hard to say
or he might be what they need.

but he is a good player who drives 5v5 results. Its a fun trade and makes the League more interesting.

- senstroll

He drives 5v5 results at both ends of the ice. This is the problem with EK.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:32 PM ET
the holiday inn express in Sarnia has a machine where you press a button and it poops out fresh pancakes. I love that robot. But on the last day it was out of order and I was sad.
- Zezel

This sucker makes pancakes, roti, flatbread and jambalaya,

https://www.amazon.ca/Aut...ne&qid=1691602150&sr=8-17
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
Leafs sign Martin Jones
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Aug 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
We signed Jones?!?! Da hell???

1yr 875k. Not bad but rather wondering on this one. Guess Woll playin in the A to start and Sammy and Jones up?!
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