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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Aug 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
I'm just hoping that Fletcher remains employed as a studio analyst to give us his insight on the NHL. I hate to see a talent like that wasted.
- MJL


BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Aug 9 @ 4:48 PM ET
You view Kase as a prospect at this point? Yikes. He’s about as much a prospect as Max Willman.
- SuperSchennBros


I think he was making the same point you are. He didn't say Kase was a "prospect".
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Aug 9 @ 5:24 PM ET
You view Kase as a prospect at this point? Yikes. He’s about as much a prospect as Max Willman.
- SuperSchennBros


If that is what you get out of my post responding to your post then good lord. I really feel for you. Mind boggling
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 9 @ 5:27 PM ET
PSA: Dylan Robillard (@FlyeredUp) YT channel has full MM highlights of every preason game so far

https://www.youtube.com/@FlyeredUp/videos

- Tomahawk


A boy among men, but ahead of the rest

Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 9 @ 5:38 PM ET
I'm just hoping that Fletcher remains employed as a studio analyst to give us his insight on the NHL. I hate to see a talent like that wasted.
- MJL


He had nothing more to accomplish as a GM. Leaves two franchises in tatters then gets to pontificate to others on how it should be done.

hfc355
Joined: 06.17.2013

Aug 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
It was really cringey to see so many Flyer fans falling over themselves to mock the Pens for acquiring a 100 point defenseman for basically the cost of a 1st round pick while ridding themselves of the ghastly Granlund contract Hextall just traded for. Pittsburgh may not be true contenders, but barring major injuries they're a lock to be back in the playoffs for the 17th time in 19 seasons since the 2005 lockout, and they're definitely going to be fun for their fans to watch. Unlike the sad sack Flyers who will be looking at another bottom 10 finish and possibly a 3rd straight year with the NHL's worst powerplay.
- Feanor

A lock to make the playoffs with Jarry in net?????? Dont think so....also you truly expect EK..CROSBY..MALKIN..LETANG..and JARRY to make it thru the season without missing significant time?? No chance. Better have the best medical staff you can find
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:14 PM ET
Some crazy gems scattered through the MM videos.Here are some behind the net stuff:

On this one, he goes behind the net, and then, holy audacity, tries a 360 bank pass off the endboards to a guy just a few feet behind him. It doesn't work, that's just youthful exuberance, but you don't do that sort of thing unless you feel like you can afford to aim for the stratosphere.


jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 9 @ 6:18 PM ET
I'm just hoping that Fletcher remains employed as a studio analyst to give us his insight on the NHL. I hate to see a talent like that wasted.
- MJL

He's so collaborative, isn't he?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:19 PM ET
On this one, he hugs the boards towards the corner, never looks up, and squeezes off a no-look pass to the vacant area he had just gone through.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 9 @ 6:24 PM ET
Here he goes behind the net again, looks straight ahead as though he is coming around the net, and knocks off a no-look pass attempt to the front of the net going by the post he has crossed (against his direction of motion)
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 6:26 PM ET
I think he was making the same point you are. He didn't say Kase was a "prospect".
- BenderRodriguez


If that is what you get out of my post responding to your post then good lord. I really feel for you. Mind boggling
- hello it's me 2050


You’re both right. I read it and processed it wrong. This “shady” trade worked in the Flyers favor, so when I read his original post, all I heard in my head was the usual female doging.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 9 @ 6:27 PM ET
A lock to make the playoffs with Jarry in net?????? Dont think so....also you truly expect EK..CROSBY..MALKIN..LETANG..and JARRY to make it thru the season without missing significant time?? No chance. Better have the best medical staff you can find
- hfc355



Here is the deal. You make a move like that to win a cup. And that team has no chance of winning a cup. It is a "win now" move with a team that doesn't have a "win now" roster. They have a "win then" roster.

Pens fans are loving it as a last gasp. But when they go out in the first or second round again, up against the cap, with an aging roster, a bare prospect pool, no first round pick next season, and 3 more $10,000,000 years of EK at 34, 35, and 36 years old...I don't think they will be too happy about it. Especially if he holds to form and gets hurt again. Having played 53, 56, 52, and 50 games the four seasons before he finally played all 82 last season.

I also see the thought process of trying to win while they still have a high performing 36 year old Crosby, a high performing 37 year old Malkin, and a 36 year old Letang who had a stroke last season. But how much longer will they be productive enough at that age to carry that weak roster?

I don't know. We shall see.



SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 6:33 PM ET
Here is the deal. You make a move like that to win a cup. And that team has no chance of winning a cup. It is a "win now" move with a team that doesn't have a "win now" roster. They have a "win then" roster.

Pens fans are loving it as a last gasp. But when they go out in the first or second round again, up against the cap, with an aging roster, a bare prospect pool, no first round pick next season, and 3 more $10,000,000 years of EK at 34, 35, and 36 years old...I don't think they will be too happy about it. Especially if he holds to form and gets hurt again. Having played 53, 56, 52, and 50 games the four seasons before he finally played all 82 last season.

I also see the thought process of trying to win while they still have a high performing 36 year old Crosby, a high performing 37 year old Malkin, and a 36 year old Letang who had a stroke last season. But how much longer will they be productive enough at that age to carry that weak roster?

I don't know. We shall see.

- MBFlyerfan

I’m pretty sure this is how most of us “cringey” Flyers’ fans saw this deal. If it works out for the Penguins, god bless but if it doesn’t. They better go bankrupt again for another decade hope 3 generational talents drop into their laps again.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Aug 9 @ 6:47 PM ET
thought this article would make the day for many of you :-)

https://thehockeywriters....-tortorella-here-to-stay/
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 9 @ 6:53 PM ET
Here is the deal. You make a move like that to win a cup. And that team has no chance of winning a cup. It is a "win now" move with a team that doesn't have a "win now" roster. They have a "win then" roster.

Pens fans are loving it as a last gasp. But when they go out in the first or second round again, up against the cap, with an aging roster, a bare prospect pool, no first round pick next season, and 3 more $10,000,000 years of EK at 34, 35, and 36 years old...I don't think they will be too happy about it. Especially if he holds to form and gets hurt again. Having played 53, 56, 52, and 50 games the four seasons before he finally played all 82 last season.

I also see the thought process of trying to win while they still have a high performing 36 year old Crosby, a high performing 37 year old Malkin, and a 36 year old Letang who had a stroke last season. But how much longer will they be productive enough at that age to carry that weak roster?

I don't know. We shall see.

- MBFlyerfan


Taking a shot and making sure when it is over they are 100 tanking
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 7:05 PM ET
Taking a shot and making sure when it is over they are 100 tanking
- wcorvette

I’m not sure Pitt knows how to tank. They know how to go broke, even with the biggest and most elite stars the league has ever seen.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Aug 9 @ 7:16 PM ET
I’m not sure Pitt knows how to tank. They know how to go broke, even with the biggest and most elite stars the league has ever seen.
- SuperSchennBros


They tanked like crazy for Lemieux and Crosby. I remember the latter. They essentially sat out talent to field a roster that would lose games.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 7:23 PM ET
Anyone catch the Tim Peel interview on nasty Knuckles talking about Torts? I gotta tell you, a lot is being made about Torts on this board and how evil he is. I’m heard stories straight from Tim Peel, Keith Jones, Michael Del Zotto and Brad Richards that’s he’s a good dude. Even guys that had a bad relationship at some point like Scott Hartnell, Vincent LeCavalier and Ryan Kesler all admit they had their run-ins but still felt like he was a gem.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Aug 9 @ 7:54 PM ET
Anyone catch the Tim Peel interview on nasty Knuckles talking about Torts? I gotta tell you, a lot is being made about Torts on this board and how evil he is. I’m heard stories straight from Tim Peel, Keith Jones, Michael Del Zotto and Brad Richards that’s he’s a good dude. Even guys that had a bad relationship at some point like Scott Hartnell, Vincent LeCavalier and Ryan Kesler all admit they had their run-ins but still felt like he was a gem.
- SuperSchennBros


You are going to get in trouble for being blasphemous. People on this board think Torts is evil incarnate and a mean coach that all players hate.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Aug 9 @ 7:55 PM ET
Anyone catch the Tim Peel interview on nasty Knuckles talking about Torts? I gotta tell you, a lot is being made about Torts on this board and how evil he is. I’m heard stories straight from Tim Peel, Keith Jones, Michael Del Zotto and Brad Richards that’s he’s a good dude. Even guys that had a bad relationship at some point like Scott Hartnell, Vincent LeCavalier and Ryan Kesler all admit they had their run-ins but still felt like he was a gem.
- SuperSchennBros


I don’t think people here think he’s a bad guy…just a bad coach
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 8:00 PM ET
I don’t think people here think he’s a bad guy…just a bad coach
- Dkos

He might be but we also have a bad roster. So we’ll see.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 9 @ 8:21 PM ET
thought this article would make the day for many of you :-)

https://thehockeywriters....-tortorella-here-to-stay/

- jd250


I read a couple of paragraphs and that showed how uninformed the author is.
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Aug 9 @ 8:32 PM ET
I read a couple of paragraphs and that showed how uninformed the author is.
- MJL

its a toss up to whom has less credibility when writing on hockey matters:

The Hockeywriters or EK.....its a toss up
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bumfuck, NJ
Joined: 01.10.2015

Aug 9 @ 8:37 PM ET
I read a couple of paragraphs and that showed how uninformed the author is.
- MJL


lol
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Aug 9 @ 9:04 PM ET
He might be but we also have a bad roster. So we’ll see.
- SuperSchennBros


Torts wasnt hired because he is a brilliant tactical coach. He was hired because the genius in charge felt the problem with the team was a lack of effort and not talent. Torts was hired to change the culture in the room; to bring back “Flyers hockey”. 🙄

I think the hope of the current management triumvirate is that he’ll at least get the team playing with some aggression so the fans have something entertaining to watch while they rebuild and that it doesn’t really matter too much, right now, anyway since they just don’t have a good roster.
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