If you're comparing the Newhook trade vs the OTT Cat trade, it's kind of apples and oranges. Newhook's had a couple seasons where he's barely hit 30 pts plus his current deal runs through the '26/'27 season.
- HawkintheD

My point is you draft a dman and supposedly they have one in the system who looks really good but instead of drafting 2 forwards in a deep draft with the 31st and 37th pick you trade them for a 30 point player? On a team that scored in droves and all he could score was 30 points?

I compare the 2 because both of these trades really don't make sense to me.

By the time the young Habs defenseman get good enough to play in the NHL effectively Newhooks contract will be up.

All I'll comment on his greatness, is if I was a Wings fan, I don't think I'd be doing back flips as my GM just put us into Cup contention with the acquisition of a 35 yr old Jeff Petry.

That's a Stan move if I've ever seen one.

Can you imagine the Sh!t KD would be getting here for a similar move 2 years from now?
- vabeachbear

I have a feeling he's getting pressured by the owner

I have a feeling he's getting pressured by the owner
- BetweenTheDots

Copy cat.....

Copy cat.....
- mohel

I hate saying this but i do think you are right.

I hate saying this but i do think you are right.
- BetweenTheDots

I understand.

I believe you're right on this one, too.

My point is you draft a dman and supposedly they have one in the system who looks really good but instead of drafting 2 forwards in a deep draft with the 31st and 37th pick you trade them for a 30 point player? On a team that scored in droves and all he could score was 30 points?

I compare the 2 because both of these trades really don't make sense to me.

By the time the young Habs defenseman get good enough to play in the NHL effectively Newhooks contract will be up.
- BetweenTheDots

Gotcha and forgot what they traded to get him. Agree with you about either trade making sense.

Korchinski has yet to bear fruit but didn’t have an issue with dealing Dinky at the time and like you mention there were always questions about whether he’d resign in OTT.

I understand what they are trying to do but to me it makes more sense if I'm going to be drafting dmen in the 1st round, top 20 picks i have time to aquire forwards and develop them.

This trade smells like the one Ottawa made for Cat, and i kept saying how are they going to sign Cat to his next contract, they didn't and they gifted us the 7th pick in the draft. 39th pick and we get one next year.

I guess we'll see.
- BetweenTheDots

No doubt Olli Maatta is probably out after signing for two years at 3 mil each. He I believe is the only one w/o a No trade clause.
Or hawk pick Justin Holl,
or the Ghost?


It seems a matter of Stevie Y not expecting a Petry to come his way, so he signed a UFA committee to bolster the line-up, and didn't expect this move.
They basically decided all the young defenders are delegated to another year of development elsewhere.

This is similar to if Kyle from Chicago sent all the dee-kids down in a future year.

Trading for a broken player hoping surgery works seemed to work ok for Vegas.
- LAHawk

It sure did, they have a cup because of it. I've been a huge football fan for years and i recall Bill Walsh saying something along the lines of no we aren't competing against all the teams we're really only competing against 8 or 9 teams in this league.

Remember when we traded for, then signed Seth Jones, i believe all of us here were like what the hell, we thought we were rebuilding?

To me i see teams make moves like Ottawa, Habs, wings that don't make sense. Like the LA move, Doughty and Kopitar have how many years left? So did they only give themselves a 2 to 3 year window? I feel like NJ had to let go of a couple solid dmen because they couldn't afford them, have gave up draft picks to get Meier, then sign Meier. Will there be a gap now because the young dmen will be overwhelmed? I guess we'll see.

Gotcha and forgot what they traded to get him. Agree with you about either trade making sense.

Korchinski has yet to bear fruit but didn’t have an issue with dealing Dinky at the time and like you mention there were always questions about whether he’d resign in OTT.
- HawkintheD

I'll laugh in 2 to 3 years he's as good or better than Chychrn, a player Ottawa could of had all along.

It sure did, they have a cup because of it. I've been a huge football fan for years and i recall Bill Walsh saying something along the lines of no we aren't competing against all the teams we're really only competing against 8 or 9 teams in this league.

Remember when we traded for, then signed Seth Jones, i believe all of us here were like what the hell, we thought we were rebuilding?

To me i see teams make moves like Ottawa, Habs, wings that don't make sense. Like the LA move, Doughty and Kopitar have how many years left? So did they only give themselves a 2 to 3 year window? I feel like NJ had to let go of a couple solid dmen because they couldn't afford them, have gave up draft picks to get Meier, then sign Meier. Will there be a gap now because the young dmen will be overwhelmed? I guess we'll see.
- BetweenTheDots

Ottawa move is easy to understand. Just like Jim Hendry dressing up the Cubs when the team was sold to Ricketts, Dorion was dressing up the Sen's for the clubs sale for a BILLION dollars.

It is Miles Zaharko day! #26 {I bet you thought I was going with Rick Patterson}

Ottawa move is easy to understand. Just like Jim Hendry dressing up the Cubs when the team was sold to Ricketts, Dorion was dressing up the Sen's for the clubs sale for a BILLION dollars.
- LAHawk

Actually, Hendry was just a bad general manager.

And yet the salary cap only goes up a million per year?

A list of drafted but, unsigned players that became UFAs yesterday. Jake Wise gone.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...ugust-15-free-agents.html

I have a rather unique situation brewing.
I was contacted around the 2023 draft by a Finnish kid who wanted me to add him to draft.
I wanted to gauge validity and so started asking questions and he was very naive to the situation of representation, and exposure.
I added his name to an initial list of 2024 as I was starting to fill it.
I suggested he contact Elite Prospects to add his profile and add his "representation."
Since then he is up there on their site, as so many profiles, but no rep/agent listed.

I continued to add 2024 prospects that I was fairly certain will get drafted and my list grew.

Today, he sent me an email on why he dropped in my rankings.
I mean the season hasn't started.
Last year he played in U18 Mestis for SaPKo U18 and had four assists playing both defense and some shifts up front.

I am at a loss with a reply.

His name is Pauli Makkonen...

and exactly who the frank am I that you need my favorable ranking?
- wiz1901

Isn't he the guy we traded to Vegas for Fluery?

Actually, Hendry was just a bad general manager.

And yet the salary cap only goes up a million per year?
- BetweenTheDots

Salary Cap is only on hockey related revenues. Hendry was an awful GM, but he was still tasked with putting lipstick on a pig.

Ottawa move is easy to understand. Just like Jim Hendry dressing up the Cubs when the team was sold to Ricketts, Dorion was dressing up the Sen's for the clubs sale for a BILLION dollars.
- LAHawk

Forbes article from December 2022 valuing all NHL franchises. They have Ottawa worth 800M. Not that far off. Also it seemed like the negotiators for the Melnyk family kept asking the bidders to better their offer playing one against the others.

https://www.forbes.com/si...-billion/?sh=5b71b5b77deb

Blackhawks worth 1.5 billion as of last December.

Isn't he the guy we traded to Vegas for Fluery?
- rpeters01

No that was the Mikael Hakkarainen. He was so good Vegas told him to don't bother showing up at their AHL affiliate so he went home to Finland.

It sure did, they have a cup because of it. I've been a huge football fan for years and i recall Bill Walsh saying something along the lines of no we aren't competing against all the teams we're really only competing against 8 or 9 teams in this league.

Remember when we traded for, then signed Seth Jones, i believe all of us here were like what the hell, we thought we were rebuilding?

To me i see teams make moves like Ottawa, Habs, wings that don't make sense. Like the LA move, Doughty and Kopitar have how many years left? So did they only give themselves a 2 to 3 year window? I feel like NJ had to let go of a couple solid dmen because they couldn't afford them, have gave up draft picks to get Meier, then sign Meier. Will there be a gap now because the young dmen will be overwhelmed? I guess we'll see.
- BetweenTheDots

Direct quote from Montreal's GM Kent hughes

After acquiring two draft picks in his wheeling and dealing this month, Hughes appears to be already setting the stage for another move in the future.

"I believe that as we accumulate draft capital - and we've used it in the past - it probably gives us a little bit of a luxury to maybe slightly overpay to acquire a player that we want that can help us compete in the window that we believe we can do it in," Hughes said Tuesday.

n parting with Pitlick and Hoffman in their three-team trade, Hughes said the Canadiens opened up valuable space on the roster, clearing the way for younger players to gain playing time.

So yes he has failed emulating KD, because he is not emulating KD. I guess Hughes read a different GM bible (the unapproved one) than KD has

Zib is 30, Trocheck is 30, Panarin is over 30, Kreider is over 30, Trouba will be 30 this season. Kind of have to win now with their better players starting to age out. A prospect doesn't really help them for 3 or 4 years and by that time their older players will be past their peak.

Most players spend another year in the minors and regardless of how much time they spend down there they need 2-3 years in the NHL before they start to hit their stride.

Its very much win now time for New York.
- fattybeef

Getting two superstars at the TDL disrupts the chemistry way too much.

they went out way sooner than the did the year before

Getting two superstars at the TDL disrupts the chemistry way too much.

they went out way sooner than the did the year before
- vabeachbear

Wanting Kane after the Tarasanko trade never made sense to me. Not enough pucks to go around.

A list of drafted but, unsigned players that became UFAs yesterday. Jake Wise gone.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...ugust-15-free-agents.html
- Rota's Rooter

Lots of late round guys, except for that #18 overall by the Flyers, ouch

Wanting Kane after the Tarasanko trade never made sense to me. Not enough pucks to go around.
- LAHawk

Think Kane was a better fit of the two, as he at this stage is more of a distributer.

We probably would have gotten better picks if he only traded for Kane, so screw him, glad they lost.

New blog up.

Direct quote from Montreal's GM Kent hughes

After acquiring two draft picks in his wheeling and dealing this month, Hughes appears to be already setting the stage for another move in the future.

"I believe that as we accumulate draft capital - and we've used it in the past - it probably gives us a little bit of a luxury to maybe slightly overpay to acquire a player that we want that can help us compete in the window that we believe we can do it in," Hughes said Tuesday.

n parting with Pitlick and Hoffman in their three-team trade, Hughes said the Canadiens opened up valuable space on the roster, clearing the way for younger players to gain playing time.

So yes he has failed emulating KD, because he is not emulating KD. I guess Hughes read a different GM bible (the unapproved one) than KD has
- LAHawk

Well KD is clearing the way for younger players to play without giving up quality draft picks. That is completely different, how does what he's doing makes sense to you?

Nevermind, i guess this is how you would build a team.

Mr so concerned about how bad our farm system was, Habs have 2 rated in the top 50? The dman they just drafted, the guy you think is going to be the best defenseman in the league and some 160 pound dman who's really good offensively.

Looks like slim pickens in the Habs org.

But I'm sure they'll be a playoff juggernaut in 2 to 3 years.