paulr
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Has nothing left to prove in the minors, i am not 100% sold on him being an A defenseman - LFS
KK has shown very strong ability as an offensive defenseman. His work defensively hasn’t been as strong. That tells me he does have something to prove, and to work on, in junior or the minors. Many of the same posters who were criticizing the fact Karlsson was a one way offensive defenseman who is weak defensively are the same who think Korchinski should be brought up when his defensive game is in question.
As for determining if he’s an A defenseman, without one NHL game? Way too early to make that prediction. |
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KK has shown very strong ability as an offensive defenseman. His work defensively hasn’t been as strong. That tells me he does have something to prove, and to work on, in junior or the minors. Many of the same posters who were criticizing the fact Karlsson was a one way offensive defenseman who is weak defensively are the same who think Korchinski should be brought up when his defensive game is in question.
As for determining if he’s an A defenseman, without one NHL game? Way too early to make that prediction. - paulr
Good post
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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KK will get his 9 games with the Hawks to start the season. He'll then be loaned to Canada to play in the World Juniors. He's listed as part of the 1st pair for Canada:
https://theathletic.com/4...a-sweden-finland-rosters/
Once World Juniors are over, he'll either go back to finish the season in the WHL, or rejoin the Blackhawks. The destination will be decided by how he plays up to that point.
If he holds his own in the 9 games, and dominates in WJ, he'll finish the season on Chicago. |
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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KK will get his 9 games with the Hawks to start the season. He'll then be loaned to Canada to play in the World Juniors. He's listed as part of the 1st pair for Canada:
https://theathletic.com/4...a-sweden-finland-rosters/
Once World Juniors are over, he'll either go back to finish the season in the WHL, or rejoin the Blackhawks. The destination will be decided by how he plays up to that point.
If he holds his own in the 9 games, and dominates in WJ, he'll finish the season on Chicago. - scottak
FWIW, these Hawk prospects also are likely to play in WJ:
Savoie - CAN
Nazar - USA
Hayes - USA
Rinzel - USA
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LAHawk
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FWIW, these Hawk prospects also are likely to play in WJ:
Savoie - CAN
Nazar - USA
Hayes - USA
Rinzel - USA - scottak
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bjphawkfan
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Location: Woodridge, IL Joined: 07.02.2016
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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No Moore? - LAHawk
Some journalist making a prediction without doing his research? |
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scottak
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Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley! Joined: 08.06.2010
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No Moore? - LAHawk
He wasn't listed.
The 4 USA centers listed are:
Will Smith (SJ)
James Hagens
Frank Nazar (CHI)
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KK has shown very strong ability as an offensive defenseman. His work defensively hasn’t been as strong. That tells me he does have something to prove, and to work on, in junior or the minors. Many of the same posters who were criticizing the fact Karlsson was a one way offensive defenseman who is weak defensively are the same who think Korchinski should be brought up when his defensive game is in question.
As for determining if he’s an A defenseman, without one NHL game? Way too early to make that prediction. - paulr
Really which posters are these? |
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He wasn't listed.
The 4 USA centers listed are:
Will Smith (SJ)
James Hagens
Frank Nazar (CHI)
Charlie Stramel (MIN) - scottak
Probably the same guy who wasn't impressed with Moore in those games
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Black Raven
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Location: UT Joined: 01.12.2019
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He wasn't listed.
The 4 USA centers listed are:
Will Smith (SJ)
James Hagens
Frank Nazar (CHI)
Charlie Stramel (MIN) - scottak
Moore was listed as the 13th forward and would make the team and mentioned that he can fill in most roles, whether it be Top 6, Bottom 6 or PK. That's in the comments later. |
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LFS
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KK has shown very strong ability as an offensive defenseman. His work defensively hasn’t been as strong. That tells me he does have something to prove, and to work on, in junior or the minors. Many of the same posters who were criticizing the fact Karlsson was a one way offensive defenseman who is weak defensively are the same who think Korchinski should be brought up when his defensive game is in question.
As for determining if he’s an A defenseman, without one NHL game? Way too early to make that prediction. - paulr
Thank you for your imput. I was not predicting, I was simply expressing my feeling. I just dont see a dominance in his play when playing against better opponents. I truly hope i am wrong. |
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Really which posters are these? - BetweenTheDots
Did you post that? |
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rpeters01
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KK has shown very strong ability as an offensive defenseman. His work defensively hasn’t been as strong. That tells me he does have something to prove, and to work on, in junior or the minors. Many of the same posters who were criticizing the fact Karlsson was a one way offensive defenseman who is weak defensively are the same who think Korchinski should be brought up when his defensive game is in question.
As for determining if he’s an A defenseman, without one NHL game? Way too early to make that prediction. - paulr
Most here know after one shift.
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paulr
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Location: YYZ Joined: 06.26.2011
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Most here know after one shift. - rpeters01
Very true. |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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No Moore? - LAHawk
No less
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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No less - DarthKane
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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The inter-webs are reporting that Caleb Jones is signing with Carolina.
The Hogs have signed Bjork to a 1 year deal.
via GIPHY |
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LAHawk
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The inter-webs are reporting that Caleb Jones is signing with Carolina.
The Hogs have signed Bjork to a 1 year deal.
via GIPHY - DarthKane
Because they lost out on Karlsson?
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Did you post that? - paulr
Again spreading misinformation
I can't think of a poster here saying he needs to play in the NHL all of 2023-24 season |
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The inter-webs are reporting that Caleb Jones is signing with Carolina.
The Hogs have signed Bjork to a 1 year deal.
- DarthKane
Maybe the Canes figure if they sign Caleb, Seth would want to join him. It worked for Bowman. |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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1st bolded: Yes 100%
2nd bolded: Not rushing KK, and him being better than Vlasic/Kaiser/etc are two different things.
3rd bolded: No offense meant at all here, but I'm much more interested in what the team/coaches think of him vs you.
As I mentioned before, I think KK gets the 9 games to start the year unless the completely craps the bed in camp. If the coaches deem him better than all the others at that point, and worthy of a spot on the big club, do you still think he's not ready and being rushed?
Edit: no one thinks Bedard is being rushed as a just-turned-18 year old. - Chunk
As mentioned, KK has the highest ceiling in the Dman pipeline as of today and is part of the plan but not THE plan. Meaning what good is a 60-70 pt KK with no other Dmen developed?
IMO, and I think KD's, is it's time for Kaiser and Vlasic to come to the NHL to develop even if KK showed he's ready as a 19 yr old, which IMO he's not. In other words, get in line KK and wait your turn as you develop for another yr in Jrs, the WJC, the CHL playoffs and then the AHL playoffs as the much more developed Kaiser and Vlasic begins their NHL reps.
So no, IMO even if KK was NHL ready as a 19 yr old, which he's not, it's not your turn. I don't want 3 rookie Dmen in the NHL lineup, and don't think any GM does, cuz I don't want them paired together and don't want one of them taking 1st line matchups/minutes and getting brutalized.
Love you KK but you are not THE plan you are part of a plan that includes Kaiser, Vlasic, Del Mastro, Phillips and Allen. So the 19 yr old stays down and develops.
Nobody is questioning whether an 18 yr old Bedard is ready for the NHL but are a 19 yr old KK? Nobody is remotely insinuating that KK, the THIRD Dman taken in his draft, is a generational talent like Bedard is. ..... Can't even say the comparison is apples to oranges, Chunk.
You'd rather go with the Hawk's evaluation of a player over mine? Respectfully Chunk, not even worth a response. |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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FWIW, these Hawk prospects also are likely to play in WJ:
Savoie - CAN
Nazar - USA
Hayes - USA
Rinzel - USA - scottak
I really hope Rinzel develops enough at U of MN in a 1/2 season to make the US WJC roster weak at defense. But would not surprise me one iota if he doesn't. ...... |
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Mr Ricochet
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Location: Joliet, IL Joined: 04.19.2009
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I mentioned Hanzel in my post because there was clear improvement from when he was drafted, and yes, he was given equal minutes.
Korchinski played a strong all around game and was the mailman, not Hanzel. - wiz1901
Hanzal looked really good as a 20 yr old both regular season and CHL playoffs and I'm glad for him he was drafted. But as good as he looked his average at best skating exposed him in the D and neutral zones at the jr level.
Long shot to ever play an NHL game IMO. Rootin for the kid, though. |
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