I believe that you just described Makar, who in my book is a generational talent from the backend. You need all types of defencemen on a team, just not any with defensive deficiencies, like Gus. If KK is a stud offensively and average defensively, I’ll take that all day long.
- Angotti

I'm hoping KK's floor is a Klingberg type. But watching him maybe 10 games in jrs and then the WJC games I see him much better defensively than Klingberg. Not sure Klingberg gives a damn in his end but KK seems to.

Kid just needs reps and with his elite feet I think he'll at be at least average defensively conceding it's waaaay to early for any long term assessment on the kid.

It not like I watch Seattle with my eyes closed. Korchinski carries lots of pucks.
Korchinski was told to pick his spots when leaving his position to attack the net.

He is a carrier, and passer, and an accurate set up passer from the back end

He turns better one way than the other when slowed or standing and trying to elude the opposition, and that IS a chink that has to be worked on.

I really do not care what any one thinks about his overall play with the Thunderbirds, because it is not enough to concern his development.

The determining factor for humans any youngster hawk will be their ability to not destroyed by veterans out there, or and over.

I don't think his defensive game determines when he plays in the NHL.

The hawks will weigh the chances to have him positively develop in pro game situations against if he is handling the entire upward move.

It not like I watch Seattle with my eyes closed. Korchinski carries lots of pucks.
Korchinski was told to pick his spots when leaving his position to attack the net.

He is a carrier, and passer, and an accurate set up passer from the back end

He turns better one way than the other when slowed or standing and trying to elude the opposition, and that IS a chink that has to be worked on.

I really do not care what any one thinks about his overall play with the Thunderbirds, because it is not enough to concern his development.

The determining factor for humans any youngster hawk will be their ability to not destroyed by veterans out there, or and over.

I don't think his defensive game determines when he plays in the NHL.

The hawks will weigh the chances to have him positively develop in pro game situations against if he is handling the entire upward move.
- wiz1901

I would bet everything on the fact that KD wants KK to perform in a top role in the WJC, Afterwards there would be a determination whether to return to junior hockey. Additionally KK should play in the AHL playoffs. With more prospects moving to pro hockey and starting in Rockford, the talent level should be higher. But Icehogs often are thin at.center position- not going to be thin on defense though

HOF Doug Wilson was 20 in his first full year with the Hawks.

Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today?
Ty Webb: Oh, Judge, I don’t keep score.
Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers?
Ty Webb: By height.
- scottak

Well played sir!!!!

A look at the Blackhawks bench in a couple of years. Must have got Mitchell back on the team some how.


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It not like I watch Seattle with my eyes closed. Korchinski carries lots of pucks.
Korchinski was told to pick his spots when leaving his position to attack the net.

He is a carrier, and passer, and an accurate set up passer from the back end

He turns better one way than the other when slowed or standing and trying to elude the opposition, and that IS a chink that has to be worked on.

I really do not care what any one thinks about his overall play with the Thunderbirds, because it is not enough to concern his development.

The determining factor for humans any youngster hawk will be their ability to not destroyed by veterans out there, or and over.

I don't think his defensive game determines when he plays in the NHL.

The hawks will weigh the chances to have him positively develop in pro game situations against if he is handling the entire upward move.
- wiz1901

i want to believe that KK and in fact all of these young Hawk defenceman are in very good hands with Coach R. Unless he is now suffering from an altered state of mind he surely remembers his experience as a rookie NHL'er.

Because in the long history of stupidity, idiocy and uselessness of the Toronto Maple Leafs he was just another player they did their absolute best to ruin. As usual they blew up his potential to the Toronto media and then shoved him into the lineup as an 18 year old under maniac coach John Brophy and expected him to physically battle all comers. The team lost 50 games and Luke posted a +/- of -25. Followed by 3 more years of bad hockey with a bad team.

He can't of forgotten that experience and the fact it took him a few more years to start playing well when he moved on to Philly.

Unless he gets overruled by KD, I see Coach rotating as many of the young Dmen thay have in and out of the lineup and running a regular shuttle to and from Rockford. He knows he has weak minor league level goaltending and a limited amount of talent up front, some of them also requiring the kid gloves treatment.

So his chances of winning are zero. Intelligent player development is the priority. Leave Korchinski in junior and monitor his progress. Don't make another Adam Bovqist mistake.

Unless he gets overruled by KD, I see Coach rotating as many of the young Dmen thay have in and out of the lineup and running a regular shuttle to and from Rockford. He knows he has weak minor league level goaltending and a limited amount of talent up front, some of them also requiring the kid gloves treatment.
- RickJ

Ding ding ding

THIS

They will run a shuttle where all get a taste of the big time.
As will Korchinski until he fails in his own eyes...

Ding ding ding

THIS

They will run a shuttle where all get a taste of the big time.
As will Korchinski until he fails in his own eyes...
- wiz1901

Assume the Hawks dress 6D for every game this season which makes 6 x 82 = 492 man games available for all the defensemen. Injuries are bound to happen of course, but let's put that aside for the moment. Let's also assume no other veteran D is added before the season starts. The distribution of the man games would look something like this.

Jones - 82
Murphy - 82
Zaitsev - 41
Tinordi - 41

That leaves 246 games left for Roos, Vlasic, Phillips, Kaiser, KK. To make everyone happy, let's say KK gets his 9 games. Assuming the other 4 split the remaining 237 games makes it about 59 games each. Injuries to Jones and Murphy would increase the number of games played for the prospects, and if a young'un gets hurt that will also increase the playing time for the other 3.

Hopefully by playing these 60+ NHL games, the kids won't get overwhelmed by the situation and will gain some valuable experience.

Assume the Hawks dress 6D for every game this season which makes 6 x 82 = 492 man games available for all the defensemen. Injuries are bound to happen of course, but let's put that aside for the moment. Let's also assume no other veteran D is added before the season starts. The distribution of the man games would look something like this.

Jones - 82
Murphy - 82
Zaitsev - 41
Tinordi - 41

That leaves 246 games left for Roos, Vlasic, Phillips, Kaiser, KK. To make everyone happy, let's say KK gets his 9 games. Assuming the other 4 split the remaining 237 games makes it about 59 games each. Injuries to Jones and Murphy would increase the number of games played for the prospects, and if a young'un gets hurt that will also increase the playing time for the other 3.

Hopefully by playing these 60+ NHL games, the kids won't get overwhelmed by the situation and will gain some valuable experience.
- boilermaker100

Just wondering, does anyone get concerned at all when young or AHL d-men get called up due to injury, that they will be “ruined”, or not developed properly because they were brought up too early?

Obviously, it’s a bit of a different situation knowing you will likely be sent back down, but it seems that no one really has much concern in that instance.

I really do not care what any one thinks about his overall play with the Thunderbirds, because it is not enough to concern his development.


- wiz1901

I've always understood, and agree with, that if a prospect is not dominating, or close to dominating, his own age group in jrs he's not ready for the NHL.

You don't agree with that theory or have but have changed your thinking?

Assume the Hawks dress 6D for every game this season which makes 6 x 82 = 492 man games available for all the defensemen. Injuries are bound to happen of course, but let's put that aside for the moment. Let's also assume no other veteran D is added before the season starts. The distribution of the man games would look something like this.

Jones - 82
Murphy - 82
Zaitsev - 41
Tinordi - 41

That leaves 246 games left for Roos, Vlasic, Phillips, Kaiser, KK. To make everyone happy, let's say KK gets his 9 games. Assuming the other 4 split the remaining 237 games makes it about 59 games each. Injuries to Jones and Murphy would increase the number of games played for the prospects, and if a young'un gets hurt that will also increase the playing time for the other 3.

Hopefully by playing these 60+ NHL games, the kids won't get overwhelmed by the situation and will gain some valuable experience.
- boilermaker100

Interesting look at developing the Dmen prospects. First thought was what about Del Mastro and Allen but very much like giving them a full yr of AHL and go from there.

As far as Vlasic, you think he shouldn't be penciled in for a full yr of NHL and instead be part of shuttling Dmen up and down from RKF?

He just turned 22, has 80+ games over 3 yrs in the NCAA, 60 AHL games and 1 playoff run over 1 yr and 71 NHL games over 2 yrs. Solid and patient path and IMO the eye test shows he fits for a long NHL look.

I'm hoping KK's floor is a Klingberg type. But watching him maybe 10 games in jrs and then the WJC games I see him much better defensively than Klingberg. Not sure Klingberg gives a damn in his end but KK seems to.

Kid just needs reps and with his elite feet I think he'll at be at least average defensively conceding it's waaaay to early for any long term assessment on the kid.
- Mr Ricochet

Well that 59 games per prospect I mentioned would be an average. Sure, Vlasic could play 75-80 games at the cost of others getting less games. It's up to him and the other guys to take the bull by the horns and earn their ice time.

I suppose Allan and Del Mastro could also get cups of coffee as injury call ups.

Edit- Oops. Meant to reply to your other post above about Vlasic.

HOF Doug Wilson was 20 in his first full year with the Hawks.
- bjphawkfan

First ballot unanimous selection to be HOF Niklas Hjarlmarsson was also 20.

Well that 59 games per prospect I mentioned would be an average. Sure, Vlasic could play 75-80 games at the cost of others getting less games. It's up to him and the other guys to take the bull by the horns and earn their ice time.

I suppose Allan and Del Mastro could also get cups of coffee as injury call ups.

Edit- Oops. Meant to reply to your other post above about Vlasic.
- boilermaker100

Regardless, hard to argue with bringing guys up for looks and whoever capitalizes on their chance stays. ...... Looking for holes in that idea maybe a kid with a higher ceiling should get a longer look even if he's not seemingly showing the best up with the Hawks? Or a player needs a fixed partner and situation/familiarity to properly develop whether it be at the AHL lor NHL level?

I wonder what the debate is within the organIzation with a good number of D prospects deserving of an NHL look and more coming?

Blackhawks legend Prius Suter has signed a 2 year deal with the Canucks.
- DarthKane

He's electric!

He's electric!
- vabeachbear

He is ok as a depth player, not a high performance spark plug

I see Blackhawks Cubs Bears improving. Bulls are sort of stuck in neutral as a .500 type caliber team. The White Sox are falling badly and their farm system is average at best

Blackhawks legend Prius Suter has signed a 2 year deal with the Canucks.
- DarthKane

He did do his job in Chicago- made you forget the Blackhawk legend Dom Kahun ... leastwise I understand that was his agent's line in UFA talks with teams.

It is B-A-N-N-E-R-M-A-N Day! #30.

He's electric!
- vabeachbear

Well played, Bear.

I just read where Bedard has two deals now. One with Lululemon for sports apparrel and one with Sherwood hockey for sticks and gloves. The money is rolling in. Way to go, kid!

I've always understood, and agree with, that if a prospect is not dominating, or close to dominating, his own age group in jrs he's not ready for the NHL.

You don't agree with that theory or have but have changed your thinking?
- Mr Ricochet

Nate davidson was surrounded by less than nhl bound WHLers and he still was selected high by the Red Wings.

"Dominating"
Doug Wilson had a solid playoff (4 goals 24 pts., in 19 playoff games for Ottawa 67s his draft year...dominating? No

Korchinski was the strongest carrier, with strong possession times and ate minutes because of his skating.

all around dominant? no.

But he will show us how he plays with pros in the best stage.

The talk about HOF Hammer should start as Keith's name starts getting mentioned.

I just read where Bedard has two deals now. One with Lululemon for sports apparrel and one with Sherwood hockey for sticks and gloves. The money is rolling in. Way to go, kid!
- bjphawkfan

I think he will make more than McDavid or Crosby over the course of his career, and his salary will be the least amount

I just read where Bedard has two deals now. One with Lululemon for sports apparrel and one with Sherwood hockey for sticks and gloves. The money is rolling in. Way to go, kid!
- bjphawkfan

I think he has one with Hyundai
as well.

He's electric!
- vabeachbear

I know Kurashev is younger, but I would have signed (for less) Suter over Kurashev. I don’t think either will be different two years from now than they are today. I think Suter brings more to the table today. Suter will still be under 30 after his two year deal. I also think he would bring more at the TDL.