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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
Even the guys with megahype end up being replaceable at the NHL level eventually.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
Well I haven't seen them Personally, but I will take your word for it!!😇🏌👏
- Buff36

Sure you have. Just ask your chin. 😁
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 15 @ 10:26 AM ET
Who will be this year's Casey Nelson?
- QuinnFan


These are the questions management should be asking
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:29 AM ET
Who will be this year's Casey Nelson?
- QuinnFan


Can i interest you in a 5'11" center who scored 5 goals 107 games?

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=207378
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:30 AM ET
Who will be this year's Casey Nelson?
- QuinnFan


There is only one Casey Nelson, American Hero
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:31 AM ET
I have no emotional attachment to Eichel, and blaming him for Pegula's embarrassment of an organization for not making the playoffs is the only undefendable statement made in this conversation.

Vegas is juggernaut, what would you call the Maple leafs?

I don't know if you watch the playoffs as the Sabres never make it, but I do, Eichel shined and was the driving factor in the Knights offense throughout their Stanley cup run. That series between them and the Oilers was outstanding.

Mathews and the entire elite core of the leaf's choke every year, you can look that up if your looking for stats.

I'll take the winner and won't lose a second of sleep over it.

- washedup20


So you're willing to applaud him on a stacked team for winning, when they were a favorite before he arrived...but not condemn him for being the figurehead of some of the worst statistical teams ever iced? Tell me when the goal posts stop moving!!!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:31 AM ET
lol Lance blamed his editor on the "exceptional" remark for Bryson.

I've done some writing in the past so it's certainly not out of the ordinary.

Makes me wonder if they either don't watch the game or have an agenda to appease PSE.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:33 AM ET
You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like

QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:33 AM ET
These are the questions management should be asking
- washedup20


I'm banking on no movement, unless they were here last year, we don't want em.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:33 AM ET
Can i interest you in a 5'11" center who scored 5 goals 107 games?

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=207378

- Hank Balling


Vibe check?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 15 @ 10:34 AM ET
Sure you have. Just ask your chin. 😁
- IndianaSabresFan

Kinda Hard with my Wife's Asscrack already there. So you keep up the good work and I will take your word for it. 😉
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:34 AM ET
You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like


- Hank Balling


I'd buy 1000 copies to line my basement wall.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'd buy 1000 copies to line my basement wall.
- TheSabresTaco


It may come in a wallpaper...
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 15 @ 10:35 AM ET
You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like


- Hank Balling

Time for a Manzear
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:36 AM ET
That's wild to me. I mean, like an indefensible position almost.

Literally, Jack never got us to the playoffs once. He joins a juggernaut that had been there without him, wins it, and suddenly he's a playoff dynamo. It's ridiculous.

Here's the valuation that will matter:

Player 1) 481gp 299g 243a 542p
Player 2) 476gp 180g 266a 446p

Again, it isn't particularly close. Jack is an elite 1C. AM is a generational goal scorer and the superior player whether we like it or not. And Matthews went ppg in 2023 playoffs btw, so disappeared is probably a bad description of his play.

- QuinnFan


0 goals, 2 apples 26 shots against Florida. No points in the last 4 games. He's a no show.

ZERO goals on 26 shots for the "generational" goal scorer...
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
Vibe check?
- QuinnFan


Oh buddy do I have vibes for you





KA is getting the gang back together. First we had Corey Stillman's son...

Now get ready for Rod the Bod Jr.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=200399
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
There are still several players around the league who want or need to be moved. MTL has 3 goalies, as does Buffalo. Sabres have 14 defensemen, Toronto is over the cap significantly and Calgary has a bunch of guys Who Don't Want To Be Here.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:40 AM ET
It may come in a wallpaper...
- QuinnFan


Sir this is an art gallery not a Walmart bathroom.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 15 @ 10:41 AM ET
Oh buddy do I have vibes for you





KA is getting the gang back together. First we had Corey Stillman's son...

Now get ready for Rod the Bod Jr.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...s/pdisplay.php?pid=200399

- Hank Balling


you (frank)ing know he's looking at him.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
So you're willing to applaud him on a stacked team for winning, when they were a favorite before he arrived...but not condemn him for being the figurehead of some of the worst statistical teams ever iced? Tell me when the goal posts stop moving!!!
- QuinnFan


Eichel almost single handidly carried the roster to the playoffs in the bubble year, this organization was(is) a mess his entire time here.

He acted like an immature kid here, and was named captain. He needed guidance and yes he was a part of the problem but he wasn't the problem.

I wanted him gone as soon as he asked for a trade and was happy when the Sabres beat them for his return, then that book closed.

He is not the only player that has this scenario immediately upon leaving Buffalo:

Ror
Montour
Skunk
Lehner (short term but he thrived in LI)
Ullmark
Bogosian

that's just off the top of my head, the organization was awful.

Back to the topic of discussion, Mathews scores a lot of points playing for an elite core from the moment he entered the league but he chokes when the playoffs begin, are you disputing this?






kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
Dahlin-Clifton
Power-20 minute Henri
Samuelsson-Exceptional Jacob
Old guy
Lyubushkin

- Hank Balling


More fun:

Dahlin - Jokiharju
Power - Samuelsson
Clifton - E. Johnson
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
0 goals, 2 apples 26 shots against Florida. No points in the last 4 games. He's a no show.

ZERO goals on 26 shots for the "generational" goal scorer...

- DirtyDan


If you want to define a player by one series, there's no arguing the point. This is like when McDavid got knocked out by WPG in 4 games, but didn't score in the final two so it was his fault.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Bryson and VO still being here is tough to look at.

Can't carry 9D and 3G, so something will give.

- Lunaion


Think you're dismissing the idea of them only carrying 11 forwards and going with 11 forwards and 7 defensemen too quickly...
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
If you want to define a player by one series, there's no arguing the point. This is like when McDavid got knocked out by WPG in 4 games, but didn't score in the final two so it was his fault.
- QuinnFan


Except it's been every playoff series he's ever been in.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Aug 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
Eichel almost single handidly carried the roster to the playoffs in the bubble year, this organization was(is) a mess his entire time here.

He acted like an immature kid here, and was named captain. He needed guidance and yes he was a part of the problem but he wasn't the problem.

I wanted him gone as soon as he asked for a trade and was happy when the Sabres beat them for his return, then that book closed.

He is not the only player that has this scenario immediately upon leaving Buffalo:

Ror
Montour
Skunk
Lehner (short term but he thrived in LI)
Ullmark
Bogosian

that's just off the top of my head, the organization was awful.

Back to the topic of discussion, Mathews scores a lot of points playing for an elite core from the moment he entered the league but he chokes when the playoffs begin, are you disputing this?

- washedup20


If the organization was so bad, why did all these players leave and become successful? Maybe they had some bad leadership.
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