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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 26 @ 9:03 PM ET

- Shuswap Wap

Outstanding.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 27 @ 6:09 AM ET
Thoughts?

Pesce/Drury
for
Boeser/2024 1st top 8 protected/2024 5th/2024 4th

I’m not a fan of trading another 1st but imo Pesce is that good & a great top pair partner for Hughes. Drury adds further C depth & has a tough time cracking the Canes line up.

- Nighthawk

There’s no cap for this unless unless they take a winger back
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 6:50 AM ET
There’s no cap for this unless unless they take a winger back
- neem55

Canucks gain 1.7m cap on the deal.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Aug 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
RIP Bob Barker, 99 years.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Aug 27 @ 11:36 AM ET
RIP Bob Barker, 99 years.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Spay and neuter your pets.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 27 @ 1:23 PM ET
Spay and neuter your pets.
- Marwood

Well that should keep you busy in the politics thread for a bit anyways...

Good luck!!

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 27 @ 1:42 PM ET
Canucks gain 1.7m cap on the deal.
- Nighthawk

I may have one-eyed it. Boeser for Pesce is beyond pipe and into wet dream territory
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 27 @ 1:48 PM ET
So Petey doesn’t want to sign and have the pressure of the contract to start this season. Why? What if it’s a bad start to season with struggles? He then signs for long term?… lol.

My guess is he’s upping his number while seeing if this team is serious about winning. So the tankers and rebuilders should take a break for now.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
So Petey doesn’t want to sign and have the pressure of the contract to start this season. Why? What if it’s a bad start to season with struggles? He then signs for long term?… lol.

My guess is he’s upping his number while seeing if this team is serious about winning. So the tankers and rebuilders should take a break for now.

- Quinn's Quest

It’s really not that hard to see he’s maxing his value, the Matthews contract makes it more likely they start talks again imo
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

Aug 27 @ 3:21 PM ET
It’s really not that hard to see he’s maxing his value, the Matthews contract makes it more likely they start talks again imo
- neem55


Yeah like 12x8 which will make for a lot of this is crazy. The percentage of the team cap is important to keep in mind over the life of the contract.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 3:34 PM ET
I may have one-eyed it. Boeser for Pesce is beyond pipe and into wet dream territory
- neem55

Leaves Drury for a 1st/4th/5th.
On that basis alone then never a deal.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 3:39 PM ET
Yeah like 12x8 which will make for a lot of this is crazy. The percentage of the team cap is important to keep in mind over the life of the contract.
- Quinn's Quest

Petey isn’t in for 12m imo. Hasn’t the track record to get that let alone if he’s sincere about winning any team that pays that isn’t winning soon either. It would take a massive return from a team to begin that convo if came down to it. Of course I could be wrong given most of my track record. Lol
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 27 @ 4:14 PM ET
Leaves Drury for a 1st/4th/5th.
On that basis alone then never a deal.

- Nighthawk

I’m not sure how it was any kind of deal any way, one of the best GM’s in the league just getting starched. Dream big!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 4:14 PM ET
Kuzmenko

https://canucksarmy.com/n...ko-better-all-around-game

On this I agree mostly but the entire line has to be on the same page & why my line dynamics needs a 3rd wheel to complete this. The best teams have responsible top lines if they are going to succeed. No passengers. Not saying Kuz was one but only here for a year he has more to give he’s not Boeser & skates better. In my books the C of every line is key & dictates & plays 200’ hockey. Miller is getting it or I least hope he has & comes out with a fire under his arse to be better. RT looking for chemistry is not only about scoring it’s playing the right way & all buying in. Scoring will come. This is the crux of the matter to take the steps to being a force & consistency. My line combos I try to balance out looking for 2 good 200’ players. The 3rd wheel being one who is a puck retriever & energy & tenacity. Burrowsesque.

Kuzmenko Petey Beauvillier
Miky Miller Boeser
Hog Suter Garland
Pearson Blueger Dakota

Beau over Hog til Hog fits in & earns 3rd wheel status. Hogs to win. Beau interchangeable as needed.

Boeser the slug has 3rd wheel scorer status. Just cuz his style. Square peg in a round hole needing linemates to pick up the D side. Has to be a 30+ scorer to change this. Agility & skating has to be his mission.

Suter line is smallish but high energy that could see Pearson on it.

Hog Pearson Dakota interchangeable to find the right mix.

Pod 1st call up due to his exempt status or if injury.

Winger logjam is good & bad given the options coaches have. Scoring is there but leaves a lot of questions to the bottom 6 being more dominant 5v5. This & top pair RHD are the biggest holes & the biggest challenge.

Summarizing this TLDR lol the changes on D needs big results. The F’s are a known. In goal is solid.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 4:16 PM ET
I’m not sure how it was any kind of deal any way, one of the best GM’s in the league just getting starched. Dream big!
- neem55

Well being an armchair GM does leave me wide open for biz like a whore late night for criticism. Care to pose some of your own trade ideas? Lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 4:29 PM ET
On a different note…

https://www.nhltraderumor...leafs-gm-took-verbal.html

If any truth is to be taken from this I’d put it all on Dubas. Signing JT was the big domino & the Marner contract ensued. Willy became a cap crunch casualty getting the squeeze. Not a believer on 10m wingers to start with. Imo only C’s earn that as they are the biggest asset. Marner was too greedy & shoulders some of the blame. If he had left some cap on the table this wouldn’t be an issue. Willy shouldn’t be the scape goat but he has to be reasonable to stick around. He’s in the 9m echelon. All comes back to JT who at 10m+ as a 2C never made sense & proven out so far. Only a cup changes my mind. Oh well it’s not my team lol

Bergeron/Krejci or Crosby/Malkin at least have the cup resume & neither were paid on hopes.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
Well being an armchair GM does leave me wide open for biz like a whore late night for criticism. Care to pose some of your own trade ideas? Lol
- Nighthawk

I like the talk, don’t get me wrong. Don’t think we have the pieces for Pesce. I’m not sure how we shore up the D honestly
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 4:53 PM ET
I like the talk, don’t get me wrong. Don’t think we have the pieces for Pesce. I’m not sure how we shore up the D honestly
- neem55

I’m only tossing out ideas to get a legit defensive RHD for Hughes. Can wait til Pesce is a UFA but that’s a whole other adventure.

It’ll more than likely come down to what Pesce signs for & who wants & can fit him in. In that regard we are outside looking in.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 5:47 PM ET
So given the fanbase is torn between many directions which way the Canucks should go. A rebuild has the least odds a retool depends on IF Petey moves on leaving adding pieces the current MO. How who & when is difficult to ascertain. Patience is a wonderful thing but that needs elite prospects in the system. Wouldn’t say we have that or close. Middle 6 winger type potential & some interesting D. None are banging on the door & still 2-3yrs away IF going to be an impact. Prospect D depth has a nice variety of skill & style. Wingers are yet to be dominant in the AHL which is one bar to set. C depth is a problem but many teams face that. Size & speed great in theory but relies on hope more than anything else.

So comes back to the present being a big fish UFA D signing or somehow trade out a winger or 2.

Getting tired of chasing my tail & y’all probably tired of reading it 🤪
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 27 @ 6:06 PM ET
So given the fanbase is torn between many directions which way the Canucks should go. A rebuild has the least odds a retool depends on IF Petey moves on leaving adding pieces the current MO. How who & when is difficult to ascertain. Patience is a wonderful thing but that needs elite prospects in the system. Wouldn’t say we have that or close. Middle 6 winger type potential & some interesting D. None are banging on the door & still 2-3yrs away IF going to be an impact. Prospect D depth has a nice variety of skill & style. Wingers are yet to be dominant in the AHL which is one bar to set. C depth is a problem but many teams face that. Size & speed great in theory but relies on hope more than anything else.

So comes back to the present being a big fish UFA D signing or somehow trade out a winger or 2.

Getting tired of chasing my tail & y’all probably tired of reading it 🤪

- Nighthawk


The team has really made some good moves and signings this last year. I think they had a very good draft and in two years or so you will see Willander and DPetey as a part of the club.

Unless the team makes some more bold moves mainly on D then it is too early for a huge contract. The middle is a terrible place to be and that is where they are heading to.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 6:13 PM ET
The team has really made some good moves and signings this last year. I think they had a very good draft and in two years or so you will see Willander and DPetey as a part of the club.

Unless the team makes some more bold moves mainly on D then it is too early for a huge contract. The middle is a terrible place to be and that is where they are heading to.

- VANTEL

I’m liking the signings & moves.

Only too early if not the right D fit for a big hole to fill. Price is key.

https://www.youtube.com/w...pZGRsZSB3aXRoIHlvdQ%3D%3D
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Aug 27 @ 6:20 PM ET
Kuzmenko

https://canucksarmy.com/n...ko-better-all-around-game

On this I agree mostly but the entire line has to be on the same page & why my line dynamics needs a 3rd wheel to complete this. The best teams have responsible top lines if they are going to succeed. No passengers. Not saying Kuz was one but only here for a year he has more to give he’s not Boeser & skates better. In my books the C of every line is key & dictates & plays 200’ hockey. Miller is getting it or I least hope he has & comes out with a fire under his arse to be better. RT looking for chemistry is not only about scoring it’s playing the right way & all buying in. Scoring will come. This is the crux of the matter to take the steps to being a force & consistency. My line combos I try to balance out looking for 2 good 200’ players. The 3rd wheel being one who is a puck retriever & energy & tenacity. Burrowsesque.

Kuzmenko Petey Beauvillier
Miky Miller Boeser
Hog Suter Garland
Pearson Blueger Dakota

Beau over Hog til Hog fits in & earns 3rd wheel status. Hogs to win. Beau interchangeable as needed.

Boeser the slug has 3rd wheel scorer status. Just cuz his style. Square peg in a round hole needing linemates to pick up the D side. Has to be a 30+ scorer to change this. Agility & skating has to be his mission.

Suter line is smallish but high energy that could see Pearson on it.

Hog Pearson Dakota interchangeable to find the right mix.

Pod 1st call up due to his exempt status or if injury.

Winger logjam is good & bad given the options coaches have. Scoring is there but leaves a lot of questions to the bottom 6 being more dominant 5v5. This & top pair RHD are the biggest holes & the biggest challenge.

Summarizing this TLDR lol the changes on D needs big results. The F’s are a known. In goal is solid.

- Nighthawk


Really long post to not have Podkolzin in the lineup
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Aug 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
I think, like Bo, they have a number they're comfortable with, and if not they'll explore other options.

Unfortunately, like we agreed on with the OEL buyout, the Canucks don't really have time to wait. Their "window" (if you want to call it that) is sort of aligned with Petey and Hughes and Demko. If they trade Petey, they'll more than likely need to do a rebuild... which will never happen with FA. So they'll dip into more trades and more UFAs. And the cycle will repeat.

- NewYorkNuck


Bo was a pending UFA... Petey is a pending RFA. What other options can he explore if the number they have in mind is not met?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
Really long post to not have Podkolzin in the lineup
- Jkuzzi

My TLDR post has him a cap casualty unless comes to camp flyin & breakin down the door. I like him but it’s time to shine tic toc. He has to play on instinct & take more chances. Safe isn’t cutting it. Needs to be a poop disturber every shift.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
Really long post to not have Podkolzin in the lineup
- Jkuzzi


Speaking of Podz I wonder how last years first round choice will pan out in a couple of years?
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