I still think Petey has carefully laid the pieces for an exit rather than another deal. The Matthews deal helps his cause even further b/c he can just put it all on his agent and now a 12 or 13 mill ask (depending on the how much cap goes up) isn't all that crazy, even if it is his way of saying he wants out.
It's not very common a guy goes out of his way to proclaim he wants to play on a winner wherever that is right out of his entry level deal. To me that's the biggest sign. If canucks were several steps ahead from that point, I think he'd be fine to re-sign ... but where we're at now he's covered his arse for that situation. I said I wanted to win, and we've been worse since then. Case closed.
I like him, I think he's a great player, I just think he's already sick of the canuck drama and spinning wheels. Too polite / that swedish or european way prevents him from coming right out and saying he's breaking up ... and it is you not me kind of thing. - Sayros
I really like Pettersson but I am not liking the way he is handling this situation. I can understanding wanting to play for a "winner", but as Vantel has stated who has the cap space to bring him in. Would any team in the winning status not have to move attractive valuable assets out which would weaken the winning status.
The other thing bugging me is maybe help make the team get to that winning status by not taking the team for as much as possible, if it means a short term deal around 10m so the team can still have room to make deals and improve wouldn't that be a better course of action?
If Pettersson is all about him and not team oriented then move on and make the trade, I'm a bit conflicted but really hate selfishness even if you are good at hockey.
I really like Pettersson but I am not liking the way he is handling this situation. I can understanding wanting to play for a "winner", but as Vantel has stated who has the cap space to bring him in. Would any team in the winning status not have to move attractive valuable assets out which would weaken the winning status.
The other thing bugging me is maybe help make the team get to that winning status by not taking the team for as much as possible, if it means a short term deal around 10m so the team can still have room to make deals and improve wouldn't that be a better course of action?
If Pettersson is all about him and not team oriented then move on and make the trade, I'm a bit conflicted but really hate selfishness even if you are good at hockey. - Makita
I think it’s Petey’s way of pushing team mates & the club to success.
He doesn’t pull any punches but sure does leave it to speculation. Don’t think he’s selfish just beats to his own drum. He’s no fool imo.
I really like Pettersson but I am not liking the way he is handling this situation. I can understanding wanting to play for a "winner", but as Vantel has stated who has the cap space to bring him in. Would any team in the winning status not have to move attractive valuable assets out which would weaken the winning status.
The other thing bugging me is maybe help make the team get to that winning status by not taking the team for as much as possible, if it means a short term deal around 10m so the team can still have room to make deals and improve wouldn't that be a better course of action?
If Pettersson is all about him and not team oriented then move on and make the trade, I'm a bit conflicted but really hate selfishness even if you are good at hockey. - Makita
Players & their agents put it on a GM to wiggle out of a tough situation. Flat cap era has shown that in a big way. - Nighthawk
You know me by now, I could care less about the actual cap. Look how many teams are way over. It is up to GMs and accountants to make the numbers work. There are so many fake injuries these days that the cap is a bit of a joke now.
I think Sayros, our esteemed poster pointed out Petey might be tired of all the Canucks hoopla . Edler got tired of it , Naslund did as well. It has pretty well been a three ring circus since 2014. The media are idiots.
It is not hard to imagine a player wanting to play for a different team where it is only about hockey.
I still think Petey has carefully laid the pieces for an exit rather than another deal. The Matthews deal helps his cause even further b/c he can just put it all on his agent and now a 12 or 13 mill ask (depending on the how much cap goes up) isn't all that crazy, even if it is his way of saying he wants out.
It's not very common a guy goes out of his way to proclaim he wants to play on a winner wherever that is right out of his entry level deal. To me that's the biggest sign. If canucks were several steps ahead from that point, I think he'd be fine to re-sign ... but where we're at now he's covered his arse for that situation. I said I wanted to win, and we've been worse since then. Case closed.
I like him, I think he's a great player, I just think he's already sick of the canuck drama and spinning wheels. Too polite / that swedish or european way prevents him from coming right out and saying he's breaking up ... and it is you not me kind of thing. - Sayros
Yes is it - it's probably the most common thing to emerge in hockey the last few years. And it's only going to become more common bcus this new crop of young superstars actually back up their play - that's why we're seeing huge deals coming off ELCs. I like that about Petey, he's about to hit his prime and he has a boat load of confidence. Teams should be thanking their lucky stars they have kids like this under control for 7 years min.
This upcoming Petey signing is perfectly balanced imo. He wants proof that the team are heading in a winning direction, and the team wants to know he can actually carry them into the playoffs and start winning rounds. Both sides have everything to prove - It's a good scenario tbh, I think both sides will have a clear picture of whether or not a long term deal will be the route to take by the end of this season. (and yes outside forces may dictate it a bit, but not enough to be the deciding factor.)
You know me by now, I could care less about the actual cap. Look how many teams are way over. It is up to GMs and accountants to make the numbers work. There are so many fake injuries these days that the cap is a bit of a joke now.
I think Sayros, our esteemed poster pointed out Petey might be tired of all the Canucks hoopla . Edler got tired of it , Naslund did as well. It has pretty well been a three ring circus since 2014. The media are idiots.
It is not hard to imagine a player wanting to play for a different team where it is only about hockey. - VANTEL
Yes is it - it's probably the most common thing to emerge in hockey the last few years. And it's only going to become more common bcus this new crop of young superstars actually back up their play - that's why we're seeing huge deals coming off ELCs. I like that about Petey, he's about to hit his prime and he has a boat load of confidence. Teams should be thanking their lucky stars they have kids like this under control for 7 years min.
This upcoming Petey signing is perfectly balanced imo. He wants proof that the team are heading in a winning direction, and the team wants to know he can actually carry them into the playoffs and start winning rounds. Both sides have everything to prove - It's a good scenario tbh, I think both sides will have a clear picture of whether or not a long term deal will be the route to take by the end of this season. (and yes outside forces may dictate it a bit, but not enough to be the deciding factor.) - Brooks_Light
Show me time on both sides. 👍
3rd side is the fanbase. The need to see success is wearing thin on the fans. Big season is ahead that’ll dictate what will happen in the future.
I really like Pettersson but I am not liking the way he is handling this situation. I can understanding wanting to play for a "winner", but as Vantel has stated who has the cap space to bring him in. Would any team in the winning status not have to move attractive valuable assets out which would weaken the winning status.
The other thing bugging me is maybe help make the team get to that winning status by not taking the team for as much as possible, if it means a short term deal around 10m so the team can still have room to make deals and improve wouldn't that be a better course of action?
If Pettersson is all about him and not team oriented then move on and make the trade, I'm a bit conflicted but really hate selfishness even if you are good at hockey. - Makita
In my opinion, he's always been about himself.
With competent management, he should get decent assets back if it comes to that. It's going to be an interesting season ahead.
In my opinion, he's always been about himself.
With competent management, he should get decent assets back if it comes to that. It's going to be an interesting season ahead. - Marwood
In my opinion, he's always been about himself.
With competent management, he should get decent assets back if it comes to that. It's going to be an interesting season ahead. - Marwood
Based on what?
Decent is an understatement.
Every season is interesting til the wolves come out lol
His comments to the press.
Maybe Canucks Army didn't write a blog on it. - Marwood
“The thing is, someone called me from out there and said, ‘Okay, what else did you get from his mood? Is there a reason to panic here? Like, is he pulling the door on the Canucks?’ No, I don’t believe that,” said Friedman. “I think that he knows his next contract is going to be a big one, wherever it is, and I don’t think he’s worried about that. I just think he wants to make sure that he feels everything is going in the right direction. And I got the sense that he is confident in what they have. He just wants to see the results. And as long as the Canucks do, what he believes and what they’re selling him they can do. I don’t think this is going to be an issue. They know they’re going to have to pay him. I think they are prepared to pay them. They’re prepared to pay him long-term. I think the guy just wants to win and he wants to make sure that it’s going to be there.”
“The thing is, someone called me from out there and said, ‘Okay, what else did you get from his mood? Is there a reason to panic here? Like, is he pulling the door on the Canucks?’ No, I don’t believe that,” said Friedman. “I think that he knows his next contract is going to be a big one, wherever it is, and I don’t think he’s worried about that. I just think he wants to make sure that he feels everything is going in the right direction. And I got the sense that he is confident in what they have. He just wants to see the results. And as long as the Canucks do, what he believes and what they’re selling him they can do. I don’t think this is going to be an issue. They know they’re going to have to pay him. I think they are prepared to pay them. They’re prepared to pay him long-term. I think the guy just wants to win and he wants to make sure that it’s going to be there.” - Brooks_Light
Debunked lol
I guess a direct interview from a respected insider counts for nada but quite ok to spin it to suit.
“The thing is, someone called me from out there and said, ‘Okay, what else did you get from his mood? Is there a reason to panic here? Like, is he pulling the door on the Canucks?’ No, I don’t believe that,” said Friedman. “I think that he knows his next contract is going to be a big one, wherever it is, and I don’t think he’s worried about that. I just think he wants to make sure that he feels everything is going in the right direction. And I got the sense that he is confident in what they have. He just wants to see the results. And as long as the Canucks do, what he believes and what they’re selling him they can do. I don’t think this is going to be an issue. They know they’re going to have to pay him. I think they are prepared to pay them. They’re prepared to pay him long-term. I think the guy just wants to win and he wants to make sure that it’s going to be there.” - Brooks_Light
