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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Aug 30 @ 1:10 PM ET
Mahura looked like an ECHLer and went to Florida and was a serviceable d.

Sorry but the Ducks were so bad and arguably the least structured team in the league last year. Hard to take play from anyone on that team and justify it.

- Santo_44


Dallas is a really good team with really good structure and has had some pretty good coaching. The last time Klingberg was really good was 2017-18 when Ken Hitchcock was their coach, after he retired, he was coached by Jim Montgomery and Rick Bowness in Dallas - all of those years with limited success.

If you deploy him correctly and support him correctly, maybe he can be effective. Throughout his time in Dallas he was predominantly paired with Esa Lindell with diminishing results year-over-year. When paired with Hakanpaa last year, his play rebounded - whereas Klingberg continued his downward trend.

I'm not optimistic and I'd at least suggest strong caution when talking him up.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

Aug 30 @ 1:11 PM ET
Your second sentence contradicts your first.

If money isn't an issue, firing a guy you just extended is just as easy as firing a guy on the last year of his contract.

Perhaps that's why you are the only guy who sees that.

- Atomic Wedgie

I meant more from an optics point of view. It would make people question the plan if you extend a guy then wind up firing him.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Aug 30 @ 1:12 PM ET
Very low, because it's likely the Leafs will win their division so firing Keefe wouldn't be a consideration.
- Zezel


Yeah I think they win the division also... as long as Sammy and Woll don't fall apart... and of course the D holds pretty well...

Am curious to see how JT goes as a 33yr old 2nd line C. I think he is by far the biggest question mark in the top 6.

Knies / 34/16
Bertuzzi / 91 / 88

pretty potent.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 30 @ 1:19 PM ET
Yeah I think they win the division also... as long as Sammy and Woll don't fall apart... and of course the D holds pretty well...

Am curious to see how JT goes as a 33yr old 2nd line C. I think he is by far the biggest question mark in the top 6.

Knies / 34/16
Bertuzzi / 91 / 88

pretty potent.

- dozerD10


JT keeps trucking along as point-per-game guy, I actually don't question him because he's been consistent.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Aug 30 @ 1:20 PM ET
Yeah I think they win the division also... as long as Sammy and Woll don't fall apart... and of course the D holds pretty well...

Am curious to see how JT goes as a 33yr old 2nd line C. I think he is by far the biggest question mark in the top 6.

Knies / 34/16
Bertuzzi / 91 / 88

pretty potent.

- dozerD10



Based on that Top 6 - the biggest question yo me would be Knies. He looked good at times in playoffs and not so much other times. If it’s the same up/down play I’m not sure Top line minutes is a good idea.
Frankly I would play Jarnkrok over him in Top 6 if that’s the case. Jarnkrok is an egg beater and can finish occasionally but his impact would be on the forecheck and the defensive end of that line to allow 34/Marner to focus offensively.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
Great 2 more years of that skalapy idiot calling him queef 🤮🤦🏼‍♂️
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Location: My Lovers call me Small23
Joined: 04.11.2018

Aug 30 @ 1:22 PM ET
JT keeps trucking along as point-per-game guy, I actually don't question him because he's been consistent.
- Zezel



Absolutely! Foot speed maybe but just put him with quicker wingers and also JT is a legend man he is a solid pro that is a smart player and will be able to adjust accordingly (his speed) positionally.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:26 PM ET
I meant more from an optics point of view. It would make people question the plan if you extend a guy then wind up firing him.
- Whipper

Nah, most know the tree likes to have a full year with his new coach.
Also, with everything going on with the leafs, this is one less headache/storyline to worry about.
Its only 2 year's and im sure once AM gave his approval of keefe they decided to get it done sooner than later
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:30 PM ET
JT keeps trucking along as point-per-game guy, I actually don't question him because he's been consistent.
- Zezel

Yup.
Jt shouldnt be questioned at all.
However, we all knew the final two years of the contract wouldn't be as great.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 30 @ 1:50 PM ET
Dallas is a really good team with really good structure and has had some pretty good coaching. The last time Klingberg was really good was 2017-18 when Ken Hitchcock was their coach, after he retired, he was coached by Jim Montgomery and Rick Bowness in Dallas - all of those years with limited success.

If you deploy him correctly and support him correctly, maybe he can be effective. Throughout his time in Dallas he was predominantly paired with Esa Lindell with diminishing results year-over-year. When paired with Hakanpaa last year, his play rebounded - whereas Klingberg continued his downward trend.

I'm not optimistic and I'd at least suggest strong caution when talking him up.

- Monkeypunk


Bang on.

Rebound stories happen but nothing he has shown the last few years suggests it's the likely scenario.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 30 @ 1:58 PM ET
Great 2 more years of that skalapy idiot calling him queef 🤮🤦🏼‍♂️
- .HOHO.


lol queef
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
I think November Rain is better than that one.
- Zezel
Agreed! November Rain was their masterpiece.
PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Belleville, ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:04 PM ET
Augello must have bailed early for the long weekend. He's slow off the mark on the Keefe contract.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:08 PM ET
Great 2 more years of that skalapy idiot calling him queef 🤮🤦🏼‍♂️
- .HOHO.

GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Aug 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
The insurance industry sure believes in anthropomorphic climate change.
- Zezel

It's funny how experiencing something first-hand changes one's attitude.

Cajuns in southern Louisiana were virulently against the idea of climate change until their ancestral lands were swallowed by the Gulf of Mexico. Now, they will fight you over it if you deny it. Same with conservatives in Miami-Dade - they saw the light. Insurance companies, ditto.

Science ceases to sound political when it smacks you in the face and the wallet.

The lesson is : science doesn't care what you believe or what your politics are. Peer-reviewed consensus facts are facts. Period.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:09 PM ET
Great 2 more years of that skalapy idiot calling him queef 🤮🤦🏼‍♂️
- .HOHO.

3 if you include this year which you must
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:11 PM ET
Augello must have bailed early for the long weekend. He's slow off the mark on the Keefe contract.
- PrinceLH

the top 40 is getting in the way of things
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:24 PM ET
It's funny how experiencing something first-hand changes one's attitude.

Cajuns in southern Louisiana were virulently against the idea of climate change until their ancestral lands were swallowed by the Gulf of Mexico. Now, they will fight you over it if you deny it. Same with conservatives in Miami-Dade - they saw the light. Insurance companies, ditto.

Science ceases to sound political when it smacks you in the face and the wallet.

The lesson is : science doesn't care what you believe or what your politics are. Peer-reviewed consensus facts are facts. Period.

- GalacticStone

It’s sort of like the weather getting repeatedly indicted
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: No, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
It's funny how experiencing something first-hand changes one's attitude.

Cajuns in southern Louisiana were virulently against the idea of climate change until their ancestral lands were swallowed by the Gulf of Mexico. Now, they will fight you over it if you deny it. Same with conservatives in Miami-Dade - they saw the light. Insurance companies, ditto.

Science ceases to sound political when it smacks you in the face and the wallet.

The lesson is : science doesn't care what you believe or what your politics are. Peer-reviewed consensus facts are facts. Period.

- GalacticStone

exactly
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who's the real Randy?, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:26 PM ET
It's funny how experiencing something first-hand changes one's attitude.

Cajuns in southern Louisiana were virulently against the idea of climate change until their ancestral lands were swallowed by the Gulf of Mexico. Now, they will fight you over it if you deny it. Same with conservatives in Miami-Dade - they saw the light. Insurance companies, ditto.

Science ceases to sound political when it smacks you in the face and the wallet.

The lesson is : science doesn't care what you believe or what your politics are. Peer-reviewed consensus facts are facts. Period.

- GalacticStone

i know right., Hurricanes were never powerful in the early 1900's
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:31 PM ET
It's funny how experiencing something first-hand changes one's attitude.

Cajuns in southern Louisiana were virulently against the idea of climate change until their ancestral lands were swallowed by the Gulf of Mexico. Now, they will fight you over it if you deny it. Same with conservatives in Miami-Dade - they saw the light. Insurance companies, ditto.

Science ceases to sound political when it smacks you in the face and the wallet.

The lesson is : science doesn't care what you believe or what your politics are. Peer-reviewed consensus facts are facts. Period.

- GalacticStone


The scientific method has a very convincing record. If one believes in the marketplace, one can't deny climate change.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:36 PM ET
It's funny how experiencing something first-hand changes one's attitude.

Cajuns in southern Louisiana were virulently against the idea of climate change until their ancestral lands were swallowed by the Gulf of Mexico. Now, they will fight you over it if you deny it. Same with conservatives in Miami-Dade - they saw the light. Insurance companies, ditto.

Science ceases to sound political when it smacks you in the face and the wallet.

The lesson is : science doesn't care what you believe or what your politics are. Peer-reviewed consensus facts are facts. Period.

- GalacticStone


Sadly, by the time enough people experience it first hand for things to change, it's probably going to be too late for us humans.
GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

Aug 30 @ 2:38 PM ET
The scientific method has a very convincing record. If one believes in the marketplace, one can't deny climate change.
- Zezel

Outdated thinking is a trap most deniers fall into. They are stuck 20+ years ago on Al Gore and the infamous "hockey stick" graph. Every field has bad science. It's part of the process. The difference between science and politics is : science is a self-cleaning oven. Bad data and wrong conclusions are exposed, discussed, corrected, and a consensus emerges. The scientific consensus on climate change is clear and undeniable. There is no debate any more. The only people still debating it are the flat earth types and people with political axes to grind. This so-called "debate" was settled years ago. Fox News and conservatives just refuse to read the memo. Luckily, science doesn't give a single dry phuck what the deniers think. LOL.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Aug 30 @ 2:40 PM ET
new blog everyone
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Macrodata Refinement , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:41 PM ET
The scientific method has a very convincing record. If one believes in the marketplace, one can't deny climate change.
- Zezel

You would think…. Except companies think in terms of quarterly profits, not long term impacts and governments continue to pump $ into subsidies for oil, gas and coal ($7 trillion last, twice as much as the world spent on education).
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