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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 14 @ 11:46 AM ET
If Wang was still the owner then Josh could be assistant GM to Garth.
- JimmyP


How is Bailey at fantasy hockey?
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
If Wang was still the owner then Josh could be assistant GM to Garth.
- JimmyP



nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
Ishakov's shootout skills alone would help the Islanders and they can sure use his speed. Just seems like other teams are calling up players sooner now days. I could be wrong. Ishakov is also 23 and not 18. Just think it's time for a different approach with prospects.
- ses111


Have to agree. The Islanders ruin their prospects. I mean just look at what they did to the can’t miss, Uber talented ( just ask him) Josh Ho Sang.
batteryjackson
New York Islanders
Location: MEDICINE HAT MEDICINE PUSHERS, AB
Joined: 09.30.2014

Sep 14 @ 1:16 PM ET
i agree with josh about overtime playoff goals. those were some amazing moments. picking apart those bumhole penguins twice
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 14 @ 1:34 PM ET
Have to agree. The Islanders ruin their prospects. I mean just look at what they did to the can’t miss, Uber talented ( just ask him) Josh Ho Sang.
- nyisles7


This makes sense. JHS did not work out so Islanders should not bother with any prospects and the Islanders do not need any improvement in player development. The key is just keep using 3rd and 4th line vets. PP and offense are overrated. Speed and skill is not part of the current NHL. Losing to the Canes was a fluke.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 14 @ 5:02 PM ET
Bailey to Sens on a PTO
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 14 @ 5:54 PM ET
Bailey to Sens on a PTO
- Vukota




ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 14 @ 11:14 PM ET
https://nypost.com/2023/0...or-islanders-roster-spot/
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 15 @ 6:51 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Tomas Tatar is signing with Colorado


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Tatar AAV is $1.5M


So much for "leaning east"

- eichiefs9


Well, it IS east of California.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 15 @ 6:56 AM ET
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/josh-bailey-nhl-hockey-new-york-islanders

Wonder if this means that Bailey is hanging them up

- eichiefs9


Nah, he'll probably sign with Colorado or Arizona and end up potting close to 40 goals.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 15 @ 7:13 AM ET
The rookie camp roster is out. It reminds me of a scene from the movie Major League...

HolyDiver83
New York Islanders
Location: UBS Arena, NY
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 15 @ 8:11 AM ET
Isles will be better than people think. A good start is imperative. Maggio is gonna push for a spot, probably Holmstrom's spot. Kid has a great shot and added 10lbs this offseason.

Let's Go Isles!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 15 @ 8:57 AM ET
Nah, he'll probably sign with Colorado or Arizona and end up potting close to 40 goals.
- Isleshockeyman

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 15 @ 8:58 AM ET
The rookie camp roster is out. It reminds me of a scene from the movie Major League...

- Nfdbulldawg

That's literally every rookie camp
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 15 @ 9:00 AM ET

- eichiefs9


Bailey does not seem like a PTO type of player. Did he shows these last few years with the Islanders he still had the passion for this game?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
This makes sense. JHS did not work out so Islanders should not bother with any prospects and the Islanders do not need any improvement in player development. The key is just keep using 3rd and 4th line vets. PP and offense are overrated. Speed and skill is not part of the current NHL. Losing to the Canes was a fluke.
- ses111



Correct. Imagine if he was on the first line instead of Leo when we lost to the Bolts.
we would have won the cup
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

Sep 15 @ 12:38 PM ET
[quote=HolyDiver83[ Isles will be better than people think.A good start is imperative. Maggio is gonna push for a spot, probably Holmstrom's spot. Kid has a great shot and added 10lbs this offseason.

Let's Go Isles!

Looking at the highly knowledgable internet GM's i would say you are correct!
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 15 @ 12:45 PM ET
Correct. Imagine if he was on the first line instead of Leo when we lost to the Bolts.
we would have won the cup

- nyisles7



I'll never know why Lou does not have you on the payroll. I'll say this you are consistent. If you are happy with a couple of ECF trips and are fine with an old team taking a step back two years in a row, I do not know what to tell you. I just love since Lou is not Garth, we cannot criticize Lou at all.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 15 @ 2:23 PM ET
Isles will be better than people think. A good start is imperative. Maggio is gonna push for a spot, probably Holmstrom's spot. Kid has a great shot and added 10lbs this offseason.

Let's Go Isles!

- HolyDiver83


I do not think they are going to be bad. But a lot of things have to go right for them.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 15 @ 2:36 PM ET
I do not think they are going to be bad. But a lot of things have to go right for them.
- Nfdbulldawg


Have to agree. It’s not about the team being bad. It’s about whether they are good enough for the Cup. This is a vet team and not an up-and-coming team with a lot of time like the Devils. Fans are not being unreasonable being unhappy the team took steps back after two ECF trips. Expectations were raised with the two ECF trips. The idea is to get to the Cup after making the ECF and not taking steps back.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Sep 15 @ 4:48 PM ET
Nope. Buyouts of a player age 26 or older pay the 2/3 of the remaining contract value over twice the remaining length (younger than 26 get paid 1/3 of the remaining money over the same timeframe, but those are relatively rare)

So if you're owed $6M in actual money with 3 years left on your deal and get bought out then you end up getting paid $4M spread over 6 years

In Zach's case he was owed $10M over the last four years of his deal. So he was/is owed $6.66M spread over 8 years. Which works out to about $833k per year until 2029

- eichiefs9

Thanks for the explanation! I will probably ask you again next offseason.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Sep 15 @ 7:51 PM ET
I do not think they are going to be bad. But a lot of things have to go right for them.
- Nfdbulldawg

Wahlstrom and Dobson take a step, Horvat and Barzal are everything they’ve been hyped up to be on here, and they don’t get stung to bad by the injury bug they can potentially be pretty good. I can also see it go the other direction if a couple of those things I mentioned don’t happen.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 15 @ 8:29 PM ET
Wahlstrom and Dobson take a step, Horvat and Barzal are everything they’ve been hyped up to be on here, and they don’t get stung to bad by the injury bug they can potentially be pretty good. I can also see it go the other direction if a couple of those things I mentioned don’t happen.
- Cptmjl


Agreed it is not just part one with the isles being better. It needs to be multiple parts that have not been consistent or healthy. If they all gel and stay healthy it could be an exciting season.
Nfdbulldawg
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 16 @ 8:37 AM ET
Have to agree. It’s not about the team being bad. It’s about whether they are good enough for the Cup. This is a vet team and not an up-and-coming team with a lot of time like the Devils. Fans are not being unreasonable being unhappy the team took steps back after two ECF trips. Expectations were raised with the two ECF trips. The idea is to get to the Cup after making the ECF and not taking steps back.
- ses111


Face it. We are New York fans. We are not known for our patience. I understand what your saying. But without being in the room with Ledecky, Malkin and Lou. We are all spit balling. We have no idea what the constraints are.

I have come to the conclusion that, we could not get better with what was out there. Lets keep what we have because we know what to expect until we can find something else.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 16 @ 10:45 AM ET
Face it. We are New York fans. We are not known for our patience. I understand what your saying. But without being in the room with Ledecky, Malkin and Lou. We are all spit balling. We have no idea what the constraints are.

I have come to the conclusion that, we could not get better with what was out there. Lets keep what we have because we know what to expect until we can find something else.

- Nfdbulldawg


No Cups since 1983 so I think Islander fans have been more than patient. NY teams in all sports have not been good in bringing home the titles. I know Lou is not responsible for most of the drought. I do know money and the building are no longer constraints.


Nothing left to do but to watch and see how everything plays out. Hopefully it all works out. I'll try to be done with comments on the offseason and just focus when the season starts.
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