I would disclaim outside looking in if they don't get more than a couple injuries and Demko plays top like a 5 goaltender, which he is capable of. If Demko gets hurt, they're instantly done again.
- Sayros

How do you think Oilers will do if McD gets LTIR? Matthews in Toronto? I think it goes without saying if your key players go down you are screwed.

How do you think Oilers will do if McD gets LTIR? Matthews in Toronto? I think it goes without saying if your key players go down you are screwed.
- VANTEL

Not even key players. I mean a couple injuries to anyone. They have zero depth pushing from below.

Not even key players. I mean a couple injuries to anyone. They have zero depth pushing from below.
- Sayros

I don't believe they are that bad.

Look I am not sitting here painting rainbows. This team is sitting at drafting 14 th IMO but if they make a couple of moves they can easily move up to a PO team. There are about six other teams in the same boat so a big move or two can leap frog your team from bubble to a PO team, and knowing the greed of this owner I think there are more moves to come.

Scheifele is good enough that Boston wants him but he is not good enough for Canucks.


OKAY.


Keep trading for those Studnickas and it will be another 8 years and we will still be having these conversations about how we can't trade a Likkermaki and the 14 th overall because Benning cursed us. It is pretty simple. You want better players you need to get them any way you can. Those first round picks are valuable just ask the Coyotes.
- VANTEL

You realize this is the logic that got us Eriksson, Baertschi, Gudbranson, Garland, and OEL right?

Scheifele fits a team like Boston because they are a perennial playoff team who now has a huge hole at Center. That is not at all comparable to the Canucks.

Leaked photo of Lefty lurking in the thread.


- VanHockeyGuy

I think with Scheif they are a hell of a lot better. They also need one more Dman.

I don't think they will be near as bad as last years start, but this team right now is on the outside looking in.
- VANTEL

This season could go either way, a slow, steady team improvement or another disaster for one reason or the other. They are teetering.
Too many 3rd line wingers and still big questions on defense. I'm hoping for better hockey as I stopped watching early February last season.

I don't believe they are that bad.

Look I am not sitting here painting rainbows. This team is sitting at drafting 14 th IMO but if they make a couple of moves they can easily move up to a PO team. There are about six other teams in the same boat so a big move or two can leap frog your team from bubble to a PO team, and knowing the greed of this owner I think there are more moves to come.
- VANTEL

Hey I respect the positivity, don't get me wrong. But I do critique where I think things aren't realistic.

From what I've seen watching Canucks hockey, this team gets injured more often than others say playing in the New York area where travel is less. I don't have stats to back it up, but I think it's common knowledge that canucks have a very hard if not the hardest travel schedule. Heck usually we have a few players injured in training camp and pre-season. I know there is some level of randomness, but overall and over the course of several years, our guys seem go down faster and sooner.

Combine the above with the fact that the organizational depth just isn't there. We've gifted players like Hogs, Podz roster spots too early because there was no one better. We'll likely do the same with McD once a top 9 injury occurs.

You realize this is the logic that got us Eriksson, Baertschi, Gudbranson, Garland, and OEL right?

Scheifele fits a team like Boston because they are a perennial playoff team who now has a huge hole at Center. That is not at all comparable to the Canucks.
- NorthNuck

Haha ... exactly this!

Boston & Van not even in the same realm, with or without Bergeron.

This season could go either way, a slow, steady team improvement or another disaster for one reason or the other. They are teetering.
Too many 3rd line wingers and still big questions on defense. I'm hoping for better hockey as I stopped watching early February last season.
- Marwood

I think I gave up around late Jan as well. Just before they fired Boudreau. If they get off to a slow start AGAIN while on their 3rd coach of this era I won't even know what to think.

You realize this is the logic that got us Eriksson, Baertschi, Gudbranson, Garland, and OEL right?

Scheifele fits a team like Boston because they are a perennial playoff team who now has a huge hole at Centre. That is not at all comparable to the Canucks.
- NorthNuck

You realize that sitting on your hands and doing nothing except waiting for players to develop you will never be a perennial playoff team.

Nothing wrong with Garland.

Hated the Eriksson signing from the start. All the wrong reasons for signing him. Trying to give the aging Sedins more time was a huge mistake.


OEL definitely turned out to be a mistake. A once elite Dman was injured and just a big mistake. Shame on Canucks and me for not doing the homework and I am one that was for the deal but did not know he was injured. So I guess Leafs should have never signed Brodie , Oilers Ekholm, Vegas Pietrangelo.

Baertschi did not like the extension at all but most on here were in favor of the new contract. Yes Flames got a good draft pick, and I see many photos of him sitting in front of all the cups they won to remind me.

Gudbrandson got an exact same deal Benning gave him from a team that has been drafting high every year and still sitting at the bottom . They just fired a very popular coach just recently also. As far as the first round McCann turning out to be a very good player, he was not like that here. After being passed on by three teams he finally smartened up and matured.

I think I gave up around late Jan as well. Just before they fired Boudreau. If they get off to a slow start AGAIN while on their 3rd coach of this era I won't even know what to think.
- NorthNuck

That was my first time I've ever stopped watching mid season.

Hey I respect the positivity, don't get me wrong. But I do critique where I think things aren't realistic.

From what I've seen watching Canucks hockey, this team gets injured more often than others say playing in the New York area where travel is less. I don't have stats to back it up, but I think it's common knowledge that canucks have a very hard if not the hardest travel schedule. Heck usually we have a few players injured in training camp and pre-season. I know there is some level of randomness, but overall and over the course of several years, our guys seem go down faster and sooner.

Combine the above with the fact that the organizational depth just isn't there. We've gifted players like Hogs, Podz roster spots too early because there was no one better. We'll likely do the same with McD once a top 9 injury occurs.
- Sayros

Very good point about the travel. We can never shake that fact and have to play the hand we are dealt.

I think Abby will have a good team this year. I see a lot of positives on there so when an injury does happen they will be fine. My opinion.

Haha ... exactly this!

Boston & Van not even in the same realm, with or without Bergeron.
- Sayros

Again my point is if you keep sitting on your hands you will never be a competitive team.

The top teams in the league are the most active teams. If you keep making reclamation type trades then enjoy being on the bottom.

Ethan Bear, Kravstov, Stillman, Studincka enough already. Shuffling deck chairs. PA can not be afraid to make big moves just because Benning failed.

I will go back to what I said in 2012 this team is going to face a decade of pain. No need to get into old discussions but it is time now to turn it around.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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5m
Tanner Pearson has been traded to Montreal.

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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4m
Still working on the return here, but the belief is the #canucks are not retaining any of Tanner Pearson's remaining contract in this trade.


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Casey DeSmith is headed to Vancouver to Tanner Pearson and a third round pick

That was my first time I've ever stopped watching mid season.
- Marwood

Same! I used to find it easier to tough out the recent poopty years cause at least the Sedins would do something cool once in a while and there were still fighters like Dorsett on the team.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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5m
Tanner Pearson has been traded to Montreal.

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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4m
Still working on the return here, but the belief is the #canucks are not retaining any of Tanner Pearson's remaining contract in this trade.


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Casey DeSmith is headed to Vancouver to Tanner Pearson and a third round pick
- VANTEL

I really hope its not later reported that there was a sweetener like a pick or something.

edit: well so much for that...

You realize that sitting on your hands and doing nothing except waiting for players to develop you will never be a perennial playoff team.

Nothing wrong with Garland.

Hated the Eriksson signing from the start. All the wrong reasons for signing him. Trying to give the aging Sedins more time was a huge mistake.


OEL definitely turned out to be a mistake. A once elite Dman was injured and just a big mistake. Shame on Canucks and me for not doing the homework and I am one that was for the deal but did not know he was injured. So I guess Leafs should have never signed Brodie , Oilers Ekholm, Vegas Pietrangelo.

Baertschi did not like the extension at all but most on here were in favor of the new contract. Yes Flames got a good draft pick, and I see many photos of him sitting in front of all the cups they won to remind me.

Gudbrandson got an exact same deal Benning gave him from a team that has been drafting high every year and still sitting at the bottom . They just fired a very popular coach just recently also. As far as the first round McCann turning out to be a very good player, he was not like that here. After being passed on by three teams he finally smartened up and matured.
- VANTEL

By your logic, those signings have done nothing for the Leafs or the Oilers because they have won no cups.

Sounds like a whole lot of excuses for bad trades to me. I think the Canucks should be treading very carefully, not going out and dumping even more assets on a aging player.

You say sitting on your hands as though Van hasn't been one of the most active teams in terms of trades since Allvin and Rutherford took over. The Horvat and Hronek trades were pretty sizable, I don't really see how you could argue the team isn't making big moves.

Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger
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5m
Tanner Pearson has been traded to Montreal.

Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
·
4m
Still working on the return here, but the belief is the #canucks are not retaining any of Tanner Pearson's remaining contract in this trade.


Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Casey DeSmith is headed to Vancouver to Tanner Pearson and a third round pick
- VANTEL

Wow that's a pretty good trade. Got the backup they needed and dumped salary, paying a 3rd sucks though.

By your logic, those signings have done nothing for the Leafs or the Oilers because they have won no cups.

Sounds like a whole lot of excuses for bad trades to me. I think the Canucks should be treading very carefully, not going out and dumping even more assets on a aging player.

You say sitting on your hands as though Van hasn't been one of the most active teams in terms of trades since Allvin and Rutherford took over. The Horvat and Hronek trades were pretty sizable, I don't really see how you could argue the team isn't making big moves.
- NorthNuck

The Horvat and Hronek were sizable without a doubt. Keep the motion going. This was a huge year for Canuck change. Don't do half a job, finish it off.

The new group may have been the most active but taking out crap and replacing it with bigger crap is nothing to brag about. Up until the Horvat trade it was just moving one pile of sh1t and filling it with a new pile.

I give credit to the new group from the Horvat trade on. Some big ballsy moves. Keep it up.

Wow that's a pretty good trade. Got the backup they needed and dumped salary, paying a 3rd sucks though.
- NorthNuck

So Desmith plays ahead of Martin?
I’m not familiar.

Pearson wasn’t a fit for the team this year.
He’ll probably go all Tofolli for Mtl now that he’s healthy.

So Desmith plays ahead of Martin?
I’m not familiar.
- dbot

He should be the back up.

2025 third round pick

I really hope its not later reported that there was a sweetener like a pick or something.

edit: well so much for that...
- boonerbuck

Haha I just got the score alert and was about to post that I'd have to eat my words about Pearson not being worth anything ... but then saw sweetener as well.

Oh well. Gotta be able to ice a cap compliant team and tackles another beef I had that if Demmer got hurt for any stretch = season over. Maybe not with DeSmith. Hopefully he can recapture form he had on stretches with Pitts. Didn't realize he was 32 though, thought he was much younger.

It was only last night I said I expected the Canucks to make a cap trade and acquire a goalie yet.

So Desmith plays ahead of Martin?
I’m not familiar.

Pearson wasn’t a fit for the team this year.
He’ll probably go all Tofolli for Mtl now that he’s healthy.
- dbot

At least we don't have to play him a dozen times or whatever it was in the bubble ... that was brutal!

Wow that's a pretty good trade. Got the backup they needed and dumped salary, paying a 3rd sucks though.
- NorthNuck

why? seems like a good price, think most here really really overvalue late 3rd picks.

Guess they could have kept Pearson and the pick and had that pick languish in Abby and being criticized for being a bust and Allvin incompetent at drafting, the only way HB canuck fans are happy is if there is something to female dog about.