Is that EP's brother?
- VANTEL

Emil is his brother, Emilio is different

With literally every team there's more misses than hits
- NorthNuck

I said "WAY" more. Combine that with the copious amount of picks which were traded over the last decade.

Woo & Rathbone don't look too promising right now either. Sure lots of teams have made "bad picks", with VAN there's way more misses than hit's. Then you have the picks that were dealt. So here we are.

- VanHockeyGuy

I don't get pissed after the first round. The first is where you should be able to pick a NHL player. You can blame JB but the history of Gaunce Jensen Schroeder Hodgson White show that poor drafting goes way back.

I am not pissed but I am at the level that this team needs to provide me with an entertaining product this year or I just am not going to watch.

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I don't get pissed after the first round. The first is where you should be able to pick a NHL player. You can blame JB but the history of Gaunce Jensen Schroeder Hodgson White show that poor drafting goes way back.

I am not pissed but I am at the level that this team needs to provide me with an entertaining product this year or I just am not going to watch.
- VANTEL

Those guys weren't high draft picks. Juolevi 5th OA & Virtanen 6th OA were. They were simply bad picks which set the team back. Then when they made good ones (McCann, Forsling) they traded them away.

I don't get pissed after the first round. The first is where you should be able to pick a NHL player. You can blame JB but the history of Gaunce Jensen Schroeder Hodgson White show that poor drafting goes way back.

I am not pissed but I am at the level that this team needs to provide me with an entertaining product this year or I just am not going to watch.
- VANTEL

Thankfully one thing Allvin and co have been able to do is grab Euro and college players to offset the draft. Hell, if McWard can stick this year that's a massive win.

Thankfully one thing Allvin and co have been able to do is grab Euro and college players to offset the draft. Hell, if McWard can stick this year that's a massive win.
- NewYorkNuck

I'm sure you'll find a way to defend this...

RD
"It amazes me that this franchise has not developed a right shot defenceman in 15 years.."

Thankfully one thing Allvin and co have been able to do is grab Euro and college players to offset the draft. Hell, if McWard can stick this year that's a massive win.
- NewYorkNuck

McWard has been a good pick up and I think Hirose will be also. Starting to change my mind about Raty. He looked decent at camp.

Allvin said there is more ways than the draft to build a team.

Those guys weren't high draft picks. Juolevi 5th OA & Virtanen 6th OA were. They were simply bad picks which set the team back. Then when they made good ones (McCann, Forsling) they traded them away.
- VanHockeyGuy

McCann was a pr1ck when he was here. Fla and Pitts also threw his ass out the door. Forsling is a different story, but I think with Canucks development he would have failed here also.

McWard has been a good pick up and I think Hirose will be also. Starting to change my mind about Raty. He looked decent at camp.

Allvin said there is more ways than the draft to build a team.
- VANTEL

Making a habit out of trading 1st & 2nd round picks are not smart hockey decisions considering the state of this team over the last decade. I don't care what Allvin says.

McCann was a pr1ck when he was here. Fla and Pitts also threw his ass out the door. Forsling is a different story, but I think with Canucks development he would have failed here also.
- VANTEL

He was also a kid that was thrown to the wolves.

Making a habit out of trading 1st & 2nd round picks are not smart hockey decisions considering the state of this team over the last decade. I don't care what Allvin says.
- VanHockeyGuy

If you suck at drafting then it doesn't matter if you trade them. Nils b1tch Woo Lind Gadjovich. Not look good for Podz also.

He was also a kid that was thrown to the wolves.
- VanHockeyGuy

He seemed so happy here. What was it he said when asked how he felt about being drafted by Canucks? "It is what it is."

He seemed so happy here. What was it he said when asked how he felt about being drafted by Canucks? "It is what it is."
- VANTEL

Iirc he was pissed about being drafted so late in the 1st rather than what team it was that picked him

If you suck at drafting then it doesn't matter if you trade them. Nils b1tch Woo Lind Gadjovich. Not look good for Podz also.
- VANTEL

And people wonder why I take the piss out of this team?

There's a real possibility EP moves on if these guys don't start getting results soon. Could you blame him?

He seemed so happy here. What was it he said when asked how he felt about being drafted by Canucks? "It is what it is."
- VANTEL

He was also shocked when he was dealt. The reality is Benning was in way over his head for 8 years, the f*ck ups will take a long time to fix and it will take time to start seeing results again.

Timeline is when star players contracts are up.

And people wonder why I take the piss out of this team?

There's a real possibility EP moves on if these guys don't start getting results soon. Could you blame him?
- VanHockeyGuy

Truthfully IDGAS if he wants out. I don't see this team remotely close to winning so full scale changes are fine. I hate the thought of paying him more than 10 mil. I think it would be another contract that we are trying to dump in two years after signing. I don't think Allvin cares also.

Truthfully IDGAS if he wants out. I don't see this team remotely close to winning so full scale changes are fine. I hate the thought of paying him more than 10 mil. I think it would be another contract that we are trying to dump in two years after signing. I don't think Allvin cares also.
- VANTEL

100% It's a real possibility though. The emotional breakdown from the slurpers would be epic though!

100% It's a real possibility though. The emotional breakdown from the slurpers would be epic though!

- VanHockeyGuy

But it could be the best thing to ever happen to this team, even better than trading away Linden, which contributed to years of better players.

He was also shocked when he was dealt. The reality is Benning was in way over his head for 8 years, the f*ck ups will take a long time to fix and it will take time to start seeing results again.

Timeline is when star players contracts are up.
- VanHockeyGuy

Benning wasn't good for sure but I said it way back in 2009 this team is going to be screwed for a long long time. They built everything and mortgaged everything trying to build around two players that controlled everything.

Selling off draft picks started way before Benning, and he walked into a locked roster with 9 NTC/NMC to their top players. Good luck working with that.

It didn't matter who took over, they were in for a lot of hurt. Benning did not make it any easier for sure. Pile that on with a meddling owner who says do it my way or the highway.

But it could be the best thing to ever happen to this team, even better than trading away Linden, which contributed to years of better players.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Take you're positive takes elsewhere.

But it could be the best thing to ever happen to this team, even better than trading away Linden, which contributed to years of better players.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Totally agree.
If a player doesn't want to be here, then trade em.
no sense losing sleep over it.

You watching ABs v Uruguay?

But it could be the best thing to ever happen to this team, even better than trading away Linden, which contributed to years of better players.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Benning wasn't good for sure but I said it way back in 2009 this team is going to be screwed for a long long time. They built everything and mortgaged everything trying to build around two players that controlled everything.

Selling off draft picks started way before Benning, and he walked into a locked roster with 9 NTC/NMC to their top players. Good luck working with that.

It didn't matter who took over, they were in for a lot of hurt. Benning did not make it any easier for sure. Pile that on with a meddling owner who says do it my way or the highway.
- VANTEL

What's amazing is the fanboys with the rose colored glasses who vehemently defend anything this team does right or wrong.

Truthfully IDGAS if he wants out. I don't see this team remotely close to winning so full scale changes are fine. I hate the thought of paying him more than 10 mil. I think it would be another contract that we are trying to dump in two years after signing. I don't think Allvin cares also.
- VANTEL

What an insane thing to say