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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 8:20 PM ET
I mean, I would. Is he eligible for an AHL conditioning stint post injury recovery?

Either way, I wouldn't send either back until there's a permanent resolution in wenatchee.

- Michael Ghofrani


The logistics of keeping Benson and Savoie, even for 9 games, will be a challenge.

Forward: Tage, Skinner, Tuch, Peterka, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Greenway, Jost, Olofsson, Girgensons, Krebs, Okposo (12)

Defense: Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Clifton, E. Johnson, Jokiharju, Stillman, Bryson (8)

Goal: Levi, Comrie, UPL (3)

With a 23 man roster, who are you waiving from the above to make room for Benson and Savoie short term?
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Sep 30 @ 8:25 PM ET
The logistics of keeping Benson and Savoie, even for 9 games, will be a challenge.

Forward: Tage, Skinner, Tuch, Peterka, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Greenway, Jost, Olofsson, Girgensons, Krebs, Okposo (12)

Defense: Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Clifton, E. Johnson, Jokiharju, Stillman, Bryson (8)

Goal: Levi, Comrie, UPL (3)

With a 23 man roster, who are you waiving from the above to make room for Benson and Savoie short term?

- kingcong39


If Savoie can go to the AHL for a bit that solves one problem. Then you waive Bryson or trade luukkonen (probably the former but you never know)

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 30 @ 8:32 PM ET
If Savoie can go to the AHL for a bit that solves one problem. Then you waive Bryson or trade luukkonen (probably the former but you never know)
- Michael Ghofrani


Conditioning assignments are 2 weeks? Can you really imagine them ping ponging them for an extended period?
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Sep 30 @ 8:35 PM ET
Conditioning assignments are 2 weeks? Can you really imagine them ping ponging them for an extended period?
- Lunaion


is two weeks an extended period? In my mind I figure by the end of it Wenatchee will resolve things and they can both go back. Benson plays some NHL games but its too much for him etc.

Then you recall whoever you sent down. Or Benson lights it up and the decision becomes easier to keep him.

I think the only scenario they want to avoid is the incident spiralling into something new/worse that drags out. Cause then you're really stuck.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 30 @ 8:43 PM ET
is two weeks an extended period? In my mind I figure by the end of it Wenatchee will resolve things and they can both go back. Benson plays some NHL games but its too much for him etc.

Then you recall whoever you sent down. Or Benson lights it up and the decision becomes easier to keep him.

I think the only scenario they want to avoid is the incident spiralling into something new/worse that drags out. Cause then you're really stuck.

- Michael Ghofrani


Seemed like you were suggesting something crazy, like a Benson conditioning assignment when Savoie's 2 weeks were up.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 8:44 PM ET
Nice backpeddle.
- kingcong39


Oh please.

If you're begging for me to explain the scenario of how a prospect makes a roster just let me know
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 30 @ 8:47 PM ET
If Savoie can go to the AHL for a bit that solves one problem. Then you waive Bryson or trade luukkonen (probably the former but you never know)
- Michael Ghofrani


The Sabres can apply for an exemption for savoie. Definitely not Benson age and game wise

Problem like I mention before is number of roster spots they are taking up
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 8:52 PM ET
If they feel this way, what's the purpose of those 9 games?

I still expect to hear that they don't think he's physically ready for the NHL yet and I don't have any problem with that.

- Lunaion


The 9 games are developmentally very significant for these kids. If he's not here for the year, it's solely because of his weight and strength.

I know people like to use skill and talent as the sole reasons for prospects to earn a spot but size and strength are very significant, as well as being able to play at NHL speed and both sides of the ice.

Those 9 games gives those kids the knowledge to prepare for their NHL journey.

It would actually be incredible for a 170 lb 18 year old 13 OA pick up make the roster.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 8:53 PM ET
The Sabres can apply for an exemption for savoie. Definitely not Benson age and game wise

Problem like I mention before is number of roster spots they are taking up

- Sabretooth9


The OHL and the WHL apparently have different rules.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 30 @ 8:58 PM ET
The logistics of keeping Benson and Savoie, even for 9 games, will be a challenge.

Forward: Tage, Skinner, Tuch, Peterka, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Greenway, Jost, Olofsson, Girgensons, Krebs, Okposo (12)

Defense: Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Clifton, E. Johnson, Jokiharju, Stillman, Bryson (8)

Goal: Levi, Comrie, UPL (3)

With a 23 man roster, who are you waiving from the above to make room for Benson and Savoie short term?

- kingcong39

Bryson is overpaid and not that great. Easy waive
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 8:59 PM ET
Bryson is overpaid and not that great. Easy waive
- IndianaSabresFan


Bryson was +8 today, what do you know.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 30 @ 9:03 PM ET
Bryson is overpaid and not that great. Easy waive
- IndianaSabresFan


Waiving Bryson is fine. I doubt anyone claims him. UPL would be the other.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:04 PM ET
Bryson was +8 today, what do you know.
- TheSabresTaco

I didn’t watch the game. So I don’t know much. Sorry. However my math tells me by looking at the score that +/- is not possible. However I am an engineer who got my 6th grade sons math wrong 3 weeks ago. 🤷‍♂️
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:06 PM ET
Waiving Bryson is fine. I doubt anyone claims him. UPL would be the other.
- Sabretooth9

UPS may get waived. But I just don’t know it’s that huge a loss. I think Comrie is better and toks is comparable. It does hurt the depth though.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 30 @ 9:07 PM ET
UPS may get waived. But I just don’t know it’s that huge a loss. I think Comrie is better and toks is comparable. It does hurt the depth though.
- IndianaSabresFan


They both stink. UPL is just younger
Michael Ghofrani
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.14.2020

Sep 30 @ 9:10 PM ET
Seemed like you were suggesting something crazy, like a Benson conditioning assignment when Savoie's 2 weeks were up.
- Lunaion


Oh I dont even know how they'd do that. I meant savoie. Like his two weeks post injury coinciding with the >10 games Benson would play at the start of the year.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 30 @ 9:13 PM ET
The Sabres can apply for an exemption for savoie. Definitely not Benson age and game wise

Problem like I mention before is number of roster spots they are taking up

- Sabretooth9


They were denied.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Sep 30 @ 9:14 PM ET
Oh I dont even know how they'd do that. I meant savoie. Like his two weeks post injury coinciding with the >10 games Benson would play at the start of the year.
- Michael Ghofrani


The condition stink would buy you time

If Savoie skates with the team on Wednesday. When do the Sabres have their next preseason game or games next week
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
They both stink. UPL is just younger
- Sabretooth9

Exactly. Goaltending depth is an issue though.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 9:37 PM ET
I didn’t watch the game. So I don’t know much. Sorry. However my math tells me by looking at the score that +/- is not possible. However I am an engineer who got my 6th grade sons math wrong 3 weeks ago. 🤷‍♂️
- IndianaSabresFan


I too have used my engineering skills to add up all of the goals against and came up with the accurate number of 8
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
UPS may get waived. But I just don’t know it’s that huge a loss. I think Comrie is better and toks is comparable. It does hurt the depth though.
- IndianaSabresFan


Ukka pekka luukinen for a new job soon
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:38 PM ET
Bryson is overpaid and not that great. Easy waive
- IndianaSabresFan


The players to waive may be obvious to us, but the team's current management moves at a glacial speed when it comes to actually waiving a player, as they seem to have a phobia to potentially losing a player.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:40 PM ET
Oh please.

If you're begging for me to explain the scenario of how a prospect makes a roster just let me know

- TheSabresTaco


When players were mentioned, you claimed Adams and company would make space if the player earned.

Now you're adding in other factors in addition to 'earning it'.

That allows you to basically say a player like Benson could never earn it, because he's not big enough yet.

Nice and convenient.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 9:42 PM ET
They were denied.
- Lunaion


I'm not seeing where it was denied.

Only that it was likely to be denied.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 30 @ 9:43 PM ET
Devin Cooley and Dustin Tokarski are the fool proof backup if comrie or upl get snagged.

I think the off-season plan was to shed one of them by the end of camp.
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