I'll make this as.. let's say simple.

My son mentioned the other day, how many Flyers would have been chosen lets say in last season's, or this year in terms of a fantasy draft.

The league has a lot of talent, the Flyers do very little to contribute to that pool. This isn't some new trend. High end talent, at best only trickles out of Philadelphia.
- FlyerFan3260

Last Flyer to crack 100 points?

Last one before that ?

Scott Laughton is a great example for you folks on here. Was it a player that was developed correctly or was it a player who realized what he would be at the NHL level and adjusted his game to make the most of his skill set? I can answer for you

Im not sure I agree with this. In the first round maybe. But IMO any players drafted in later rounds who become stars is more due to development.

Braydon Point, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Shea Weber etc.

Its not a rule of course, but I think by and large getting a star player out of later rounds has more to do with development than just simply drafting them knowing they will be a star.

Maybe I misread what you meant, and if I did I apologize.
- MBFlyerfan

Think about it. The players had the skill. You can’t just magically develop a player to be a star. Having patience in development is not the same as saying you just develop a star.

Scott Laughton is a great example for you folks on here. Was it a player that was developed correctly or was it a player who realized what he would be at the NHL level and adjusted his game to make the most of his skill set? I can answer for you
- ClaudeFather

Oilers did it well when they developed my David into such a speed demon. Wonder why they don’t just replicate that with how they developed draistl

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it's worth it more to talk about the eagles
- 2Real

why is he playing less than half the snaps?

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Will you PLEASE stop acting like a child!

Myers worked his way from an undrafted UFA, through the AHL and made it to the NHL. Apparently he did have a ticket. Including playing a very solid and promising season of 50 NHL games in the 19/20 NHL season. With no mention whatsoever of Myers having a hockey IQ issue. Apparently he contracted it somewhere along the way like a virus. Too bad there was no vaccine

Both York and Frost were mishandled. Frost in particular would be further along in my opinion if he was handled better.

Not many 19 year old defenseman are tasked with having to be the teams all situations #1 defenseman. Most young defenseman break in playing on a lesser pairing with veterans to help shield them while they develop into a top role.
- MJL

What I find funny about the Phil Myers jabs is, it’s all hindsight BS. Myers was pretty good in his only full season in the NHL next to Sanheim. Not to mention they were our strongest pair the last time we made the playoffs. Many who have turned on Myers loved him while he was here. I remember Myers last few games next to Sam Morin. When that pair allowed a goal, fans on this board would instantly blame Morin. I don’t know what some of these guys were watching. The reality was, Myers was the favorite on that pair, and you can’t blame the favorite until they’re traded in the summer. Anyone who says they didn’t like Phil Myers when he was wearing a Flyers uniform is a liar.

Giroux became an impact player almost immediately, nice try, maybe next time bud
- ClaudeFather

Was Morgan Frost an impact player last season? I guess that depends on one's definition of impact player and almost immediately. Which is subjective

Claude Giroux in his first pro season, spent 33 games in the AHL. In his first full season with the Flyers, the next season. He had 47 points in 82 games. It wasn't until the 2010 playoffs and his 3rd pro season and 2nd full NHL season that he broke out and became an impact player with 76 points in 82 games. I don't call that almost immediately. He needed some development time. Nice try, maybe next time bud

There was no miracle development here, just players coming into their own. Working their way up through the ranks. You folks really need to get your heads out of the sand. The same people screaming about Frost/York in the AHL are the same ones crying about development.
- ClaudeFather

Players coming into their own and working their way up the ranks. Nah, that's not development.


You're long on rhetoric, cliches and anecdotes. Very short on any real insight and knowledge.

What did each perspective team do to “develop” these players?
- ClaudeFather

Give them coaching and put them in the right roles and spots at the right time.

Giroux became an impact player almost immediately, nice try, maybe next time bud
- ClaudeFather

Oh really? Giroux was the new fresh face everyone was excited to see. He wasn’t instantly impactful.

Scott Laughton is a great example for you folks on here. Was it a player that was developed correctly or was it a player who realized what he would be at the NHL level and adjusted his game to make the most of his skill set? I can answer for you
- ClaudeFather

You can give an opinion but I doubt you can answer with any real insight bub. Based on your comments in this thread, no threat of that happening.

Last Flyer to crack 100 points?

Last one before that ?
- corduroy

Claude, than the mighty Lindros, than 2 times Recchi in the 90s. Flyers haven't had a ton of 100 ➕️ guys.

Players coming into their own and working their way up the ranks. Nah, that's not development.


You're long on rhetoric, cliches and anecdotes. Very short on any real insight and knowledge.
- MJL

Lmao. Keep spinning.

Oh really? Giroux was the new fresh face everyone was excited to see. He wasn’t instantly impactful.
- SuperSchennBros

I dunno, I thought Giroux was pretty good upon his arrival in the 2010 playoffs.

Claude, than the mighty Lindros, than 2 times Recchi in the 90s. Flyers haven't had a ton of 100 ➕️ guys.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

On the horizon i only see Michkov. But he need talented linemates.

I dunno, I thought Giroux was pretty good upon his arrival in the 2010 playoffs.
- Phillywhiteout

He was great in the 2010 playoffs. That wasn't his arrival though. He played 164 professional games before that playoff run.

You can give an opinion but I doubt you can answer with any real insight bub. Based on your comments in this thread, no threat of that happening.
- MJL

Please do tell us about Laughtons development

Please do tell us about Laughtons development
- ClaudeFather

You posted "I can answer for you". You first.

Players coming into their own and working their way up the ranks. Nah, that's not development.


You're long on rhetoric, cliches and anecdotes. Very short on any real insight and knowledge.
- MJL

Tell us what they did, come on Cliff. You had a great answer, coaching…

You posted "I can answer for you". You first.
- MJL

I told you exactly what it was, a player realizing he was not going to be a scorer at the next level and transitioned his game into a more hard nosed utility player. Let’s hear about the development, come on, you’re up

Lmao. Keep spinning.
- Peter Richards

These folks love the development buzz word but can’t tell you a damn thing that’s happening besides players working it out on their own time

I told you exactly what it was, a player realizing he was not going to be a scorer at the next level and transitioned his game into a more hard nosed utility player. Let’s hear about the development, come on, you’re up
- ClaudeFather

That's incorrect. Laughton wasn't even a scorer in juniors. It wasn't until his 4th overage junior season that he scored at a fairly high level. If you read Laughton's scouting reports. He didn't change his game, That was his game in juniors. He is pretty much the player that he was projected to be. He was never projected to be a scorer at the NHL level. You don't know squat.

Tell us what they did, come on Cliff. You had a great answer, coaching…
- ClaudeFather

Long on rhetoric. Short on knowledge. When challenged, you wilt.

That's incorrect. Laughton wasn't even a scorer in juniors. It wasn't until his 4th overage junior season that he scored at a fairly high level. If you read Laughton's scouting reports. He didn't change his game, That was his game in juniors. He is pretty much the player that he was projected to be. He was never projected to be a scorer at the NHL level. You don't know squat.
- MJL

Tell us about his development