You look forward to games, that didn't happen last year.

Bedard can pass like Kane (tell me I'm not the only one who thought that on the OT pass for GWG), and Wiz says shoots like Bossy.

That's going to be a hell of a hockey player.

Thought most played well, and played Luke's system. They are going to be better than many think, not great, but better than most think, and in most games every night.

Player who most surprised me was Misiak, faster and bigger than I thought, and in the 1st he was undefeated at the dot.

Oh, and as I've said before, Wyatt Kaiser is making this team, and its already decided.
- vabeachbear

Kane is much better at laying a backhand saucer flat for the pass receiver. But the fact that 98 has the IQ/vision to see the play in advance like Kane is the most important thing. Like Wiz and others have pointed out the kid won't have the time and space he had in juniors going forward. But I'm thinking he lights up the PP and then draws a lot of coverage even strength and has the IQ to be a playmaker that hit's the open man. Kinda like the OT goal you reference.

Kane is much better at laying a backhand saucer flat for the pass receiver. But the fact that 98 has the IQ/vision to see the play in advance like Kane is the most important thing. Like Wiz and others have pointed out the kid won't have the time and space he had in juniors going forward. But I'm thinking he lights up the PP and then draws a lot of coverage even strength and has the IQ to be a playmaker that hit's the open man. Kinda like the OT goal you reference.
- 6628

Not with S. Jones on the point. Probably worst #1 point man in the NHL. Hawks have never had a good PP with him at the point.

My issue with Gus was how quickly he would lose the puck on his stick as he would skate down low. To me if KK can maintain possession to allow for example Kurashev to play his position, which he did very well last night recognize and adjust several times, i think then its fine. My favorite move by Gus was trying to hit the top corner and miss the net entirely and the puck just flies around the boards to the opponent and creates an instant man advantage the other way.

I did see KK actually pin a forward to the boards last night so seems like the coaching is being heard.
- BetweenTheDots

My issue with Gus was he would float and take for ever to get back into position. It seemed like he would daydream. Sometimes it was hard to tell which side he was playing or if he was playing forward or D.

I noticed that too and no thanks to the goofs/hacks in the booth not calling names but wasn't sure if it was cuz Misiak was out for as spell from the big hit and they were down to 11 forwaqrds and had to juggle.

But Danato showed little to that point so I was thinking LR is juggling....... But Kurashev showed why it's so hard to quit him. He showed ++ speed with Bedard and Hall then he showed his top 6 hands on that goal.

A new season. Has Kurashev taken a step and is more consistent? Cuz this guy has top 6 hands and feet.
- Mr Ricochet

Kurashev was pretty useless aside from the goal.

Donato was a black hole. Can see why he's good for a dozen goals on the 4th line but I don't think that he's a good fit on the top line.

I didn't care for Reichel at center. I think that is one you just let him worry about torching guys and being creative from the wing.

Korchinski was the most entertaining player not named Bedard. No reason for him not to make the team if he maintains that.

Kaiser could have a better season than Jones.

You mean at 245? He does move well already for a big guy
- BetweenTheDots

yeah, fixed

Re: Misiak
Nice IQ, he's always around the puck, good motor and positioning. And here he is in the bigs showing plus speed, still that nice IQ/motor, and is always around the puck showing decent hands as a 6ft 2 in 195 lb 18 yr old rookie.
- Mr Ricochet

The one thing hs hasn't shown that we have to hope for us he begins to score.

There is a lot to suggest he will eventually progress starting in the AHL as last year was transition time to North America.

Kurashev was pretty useless aside from the goal.
- fattybeef

I am glad you said it first.

I would like to see someone else get a chance on that wing. He just seems to have possession issues when I don't expect one.

As I watch Marcel I say to myself this dude is 243 lbs!!! No way does he move like a 243 pounder.

One helluva lump of clay to work with.
- Mr Ricochet

He seems fast enough to get in position to make a hit. And I saw a couple playoff-Bickel hits - those leave marks and actually affect the behavior of the other team.

I am glad you said it first.

I would like to see someone else get a chance on that wing. He just seems to have possession issues when I don't expect one.
- wiz1901

Hall Bedard AA
Reichel guttman raddysh
Donato Richardinson Tyler Johnson
Perry entswhistel folingo
Trade Kurashev please and Jones flopping around on the ice like a dead fish.

The one thing hs hasn't shown that we have to hope for us he begins to score.

There is a lot to suggest he will eventually progress starting in the AHL as last year was transition time to North America.
- wiz1901

You know Wiz when they called Misiak's name in rd 2 I was caught flat footed. I knew the kid and remembered liking him, a lot, as a USHL 3C (he played 1C in the USHL). Now, this is shortly after them taking Gajon with the freak Hrabal on the board so I was still "recovering".

Off to Elite Prospects and indeed, on paper he's not a 2nd rounder. Like most good Euro's he played at a few different levels each yr and internationally but shows no scoring back class. https://www.eliteprospect...ayer/527425/martin-misiak

With NHLers he seems quicker, more jump, more athletic and maybe even a more offensive posture than in the USHL but same motor and IQ.

Thinking about it he doesn't seem like a swing in rd 2 but instead a very high floor? Much of the time a club is hoping to score a top 6 or 2nd pairing guy in rd 2 but, like Allen in rd 1, did they draft Misiak thinking a high probability we have a high floor NHLer and in Misiak's case an NHL 3rd liner?.... A kid they like for his all around game/effort with size and speed to be a very good NHL 3rd liner?

I'm guessing him going in rd 2 he really impressed someone in the organIzation and him getting the first game between Perry and Foligno seems to support that.

After spending a couple weeks with the Hawks let's see what kinda game he plays with Erie in the OHL. Maybe the kid will look to be more offensive? He did come from a cup winning USHL squad and with a good rookie camp and NHL preseason game the kid goes to Erie with a lotta confidence. .

Thanks. I read about that site here before. Haven't tried it yet, but I'll give it a go.
- boilermaker100

The preseason games are also being shown on the CenterIce package. It shows the games for both Sat and Sun listed. The game on Thursday was broadcast there with the Chicago announcers.

Hall Bedard AA
Reichel guttman raddysh
Donato Richardinson Tyler Johnson
Perry entswhistel folingo
Trade Kurashev please and Jones flopping around on the ice like a dead fish.
- Scott1977

I am going to say that you are 1) frustrated with some of the weak areas seen regularly in S Jones game and that you 2) realize too the time to move Jones is not this season.

It is encouraging too see prospects developing nicely and holding up OK in the exhibition games. But you cannot replace experience easily. There may be three new dmen but until a couple of them appear to perform consistently, you cannot trade away S Jones. Jones' physical size despite not effectively using ioften is important because the team needs a couple half descent defenders who can lock horns with big bruising opposing forwards.

Oh sure I know that Jones can get beat and is too often not able to impede the opposition in a one- on -one rush

Nonetheless just remember any rookies who join up.will have their own weaknesses

The timing for trading Jones is probably some time after two more seasons. As young players emerge they will become higher paid so moving a big salary in S Jones really comes into focus after some young guns must be paid more handsomely.

I suggest we watch how rapidly some physical style dmen develop, namely Allen, DelMastro and Crevier. Even KK who will check and pin a man to the boards.

The board is fond to write both Murphy and Zaitsev departure so think about that too. Who is remaining with size and even some physical style in defending. S Jones - you know that.

While I agree S Jones should be omitted I don't believe it to be a prudent move in the next 1-2 years

And I bet KD has some ideas how he would like to eventually find S Jones a new home......thoughts twirling around to be determined ar a later date.

Lol game 1 of the preseason of year 1…and people already complaining about not having our “Hossa” yet or not having the proper linemates for Bedard…

Could ya give it a second? Like maybe a few months even? Ffs…

This roster will be filled out accordingly in due time. Until then expect the plug-ins like Hall and Perry to do their thing and help us tank.

I am going to say that you are 1) frustrated with some of the weak areas seen regularly in S Jones game and that you 2) realize too the time to move Jones is not this season.

It is encouraging too see prospects developing nicely and holding up OK in the exhibition games. But you cannot replace experience easily. There may be three new dmen but until a couple of them appear to perform consistently, you cannot trade away S Jones. Jones' physical size despite not effectively using ioften is important because the team needs a couple half descent defenders who can lock horns with big bruising opposing forwards.

Oh sure I know that Jones can get beat and is too often not able to impede the opposition in a one- on -one rush

Nonetheless just remember any rookies who join up.will have their own weaknesses

The timing for trading Jones is probably some time after two more seasons. As young players emerge they will become higher paid so moving a big salary in S Jones really comes into focus after some young guns must be paid more handsomely.

I suggest we watch how rapidly some physical style dmen develop, namely Allen, DelMastro and Crevier. Even KK who will check and pin a man to the boards.

The board is fond to write both Murphy and Zaitsev departure so think about that too. Who is remaining with size and even some physical style in defending. S Jones - you know that.

While I agree S Jones should be omitted I don't believe it to be a prudent move in the next 1-2 years

And I bet KD has some ideas how he would like to eventually find S Jones a new home......thoughts twirling around to be determined ar a later date.
- jhawk59

we are stuck with Jones for now and he has experience which will the young d men.

To be fair I am surprised that AA did not blow that OT goal - he is not known for his hands and he was on top of goal, fast, and with pretty much no room or time --- it just sort of ... happened. Don't bank on that one being a regularity -not with a goal at the end of it.

Watching the Bos-Phi game --- and I don't know that ESPN ran the Chi-Stl game the other night (couldn't find it in their listings of available replays) -so not a major sample size -but I imagine the Hawks are going to be pretty entertaining to watch comparatively speaking.

The preseason games are also being shown on the CenterIce package. It shows the games for both Sat and Sun listed. The game on Thursday was broadcast there with the Chicago announcers.
- Matt_Foleys_bro

Yeah, ESPN plus was an option for me too.

My problem if I don't watch on the 'puter screen is my non smartTv (Dumb TV) is going through Apple TV, and fort some reason, the 'outer easily toggles backward to the start or if you want to see it again, while the Apple TV controlled version of ESPNplus takes me back to the start of the broadcast even if I only want to go and return for 15 second back...


I NEED a FAVOR from someone who has an Athletic subscription. I do have one but they have taken away my posting ability due to the fact I roasted Pronman I think...they will not show me the objectionable posts...hardly think it is my run on sentences, bad spelling or breath.

The next time one of the Chicago bears q and A's comes up for questions can someone ask, "With Fields stating he was being ask to be what he isn't (including robotic?), is the QB coaching staff gone through reps of him PLANTING his feet before throwing?

Kurashev was pretty useless aside from the goal.

Donato was a black hole. Can see why he's good for a dozen goals on the 4th line but I don't think that he's a good fit on the top line.

I didn't care for Reichel at center. I think that is one you just let him worry about torching guys and being creative from the wing.

Korchinski was the most entertaining player not named Bedard. No reason for him not to make the team if he maintains that.

Kaiser could have a better season than Jones.
- fattybeef

That's the problem with Kurashev. Don't hear his name or notice him then boom, he shows top 6 hands settling then roofing a backhander from a ft out. Showed ++ speed in a puck race in his zone as well. .... And generally speaking he'll show his quick hands once or twice a game.

I was thinking what's he thinking skating with Hall and Bedard?? Probably the best two linemates he ever had.. I'll say this, he didn't slow those two down.

Big chance for Kurashev this yr. Hate to see him stay inconsistent, they move on from him and he pops for another club. Not a prospect anymore with 190 NHL games although he only had 40 AHL games... 4 WJC's, a Hlinka, a WC, 190 NHL games at 23 yrs old.

We all see the feet and hands and back class. Time to produce. And being married to Bedard or Reichel with probably PP2 minutes time to produce.

Curious what you didn't like with Reichel playing center. I didn't catch anything bad like poor positioning or blown coverage.

Yep, Danato looked out of place, big time. But there was a stretch in the 3rdf period he was dangerous. Too early to say but early results tell me if he's a top 6 guy this yr Hawks will be weaker than I hoped.......Loved SEA last yr and when I watched he looked like he fit nicely on L4.

Korchinski skating with AA makes me look at him differently. This kid is a bor5derline elite skater and maybe better than I had thought. Matching AA's skating for 30 ft is eye opening.

Kaiser will get 3 yrs of experience if he's Jones' partner all yr. Perfect partners. Kaiser has the ability to clean up after Jones all damn game long. Maybe the only Dman in the organIzation that can do that.

That's the problem with Kurashev. Don't hear his name or notice him then boom, he shows top 6 hands settling then roofing a backhander from a ft out. Showed ++ speed in a puck race in his zone as well. .... And generally speaking he'll show his quick hands once or twice a game.

I was thinking what's he thinking skating with Hall and Bedard?? Probably the best two linemates he ever had.. I'll say this, he didn't slow those two down.

Big chance for Kurashev this yr. Hate to see him stay inconsistent, they move on from him and he pops for another club. Not a prospect anymore with 190 NHL games although he only had 40 AHL games... 4 WJC's, a Hlinka, a WC, 190 NHL games at 23 yrs old.

We all see the feet and hands and back class. Time to produce. And being married to Bedard or Reichel with probably PP2 minutes time to produce.

Curious what you didn't like with Reichel playing center. I didn't catch anything bad like poor positioning or blown coverage.

Yep, Danato looked out of place, big time. But there was a stretch in the 3rdf period he was dangerous. Too early to say but early results tell me if he's a top 6 guy this yr Hawks will be weaker than I hoped.......Loved SEA last yr and when I watched he looked like he fit nicely on L4.

Korchinski skating with AA makes me look at him differently. This kid is a bor5derline elite skater and maybe better than I had thought. Matching AA's skating for 30 ft is eye opening.

Kaiser will get 3 yrs of experience if he's Jones' partner all yr. Perfect partners. Kaiser has the ability to clean up after Jones all damn game long. Maybe the only Dman in the organIzation that can do that.
- Mr Ricochet

I just don't think Kurachev has any sense of what to do on the ice at speed. He's fine as an energy guy or whatever but I think he's missing something between the ears hockey awareness wise.

I think Reichel is better suited to do the Sharp thing - only more dynamic - and just pick pockets and scorch guys up the boards. At center I think he has too much to worry about and it will inhibit his scoring. Just don't see him as a go through the middle of the ice efficiently type kind of player but who knows.

I think he was fine at center but would be more productive on the wing. With AA and Kurachev he's really the only guy who can carry it in and unless they just dump and chase with that group it's gonna be tough on him to generate stuff through the middle.

Either way it's at least fun to see how some of the prospects do. I was pretty impressed with Misiak. He's obviously young but didn't look terribly out of place and I thought did decent enough.

That's the problem with Kurashev. Don't hear his name or notice him then boom, he shows top 6 hands settling then roofing a backhander from a ft out. Showed ++ speed in a puck race in his zone as well. .... And generally speaking he'll show his quick hands once or twice a game.

I was thinking what's he thinking skating with Hall and Bedard?? Probably the best two linemates he ever had.. I'll say this, he didn't slow those two down.

Big chance for Kurashev this yr. Hate to see him stay inconsistent, they move on from him and he pops for another club. Not a prospect anymore with 190 NHL games although he only had 40 AHL games... 4 WJC's, a Hlinka, a WC, 190 NHL games at 23 yrs old.

We all see the feet and hands and back class. Time to produce. And being married to Bedard or Reichel with probably PP2 minutes time to produce.

Curious what you didn't like with Reichel playing center. I didn't catch anything bad like poor positioning or blown coverage.

Yep, Danato looked out of place, big time. But there was a stretch in the 3rdf period he was dangerous. Too early to say but early results tell me if he's a top 6 guy this yr Hawks will be weaker than I hoped.......Loved SEA last yr and when I watched he looked like he fit nicely on L4.

Korchinski skating with AA makes me look at him differently. This kid is a bor5derline elite skater and maybe better than I had thought. Matching AA's skating for 30 ft is eye opening.

Kaiser will get 3 yrs of experience if he's Jones' partner all yr. Perfect partners. Kaiser has the ability to clean up after Jones all damn game long. Maybe the only Dman in the organIzation that can do that.
- Mr Ricochet

I made a point of watching Reichel last night. His positional play stood out to me. Not only did he play on the right side of the puck defensively he also covered the point on a few occasions when a defenseman made a foray into the opposition end. The other thing I liked was how he battled for pucks a few times. There were a couple of occasions when he did fly bus instead of engaging an opponent physically but overall I thought he battled well. There was one move I really liked, he went wide on a defender at the blue line then cut into the front of the net for a power move that resulted in a scoring chance. All that said I’d prefer to see him on Bedard’s wing.

I am going to say that you are 1) frustrated with some of the weak areas seen regularly in S Jones game and that you 2) realize too the time to move Jones is not this season.

It is encouraging too see prospects developing nicely and holding up OK in the exhibition games. But you cannot replace experience easily. There may be three new dmen but until a couple of them appear to perform consistently, you cannot trade away S Jones. Jones' physical size despite not effectively using ioften is important because the team needs a couple half descent defenders who can lock horns with big bruising opposing forwards.

Oh sure I know that Jones can get beat and is too often not able to impede the opposition in a one- on -one rush

Nonetheless just remember any rookies who join up.will have their own weaknesses

The timing for trading Jones is probably some time after two more seasons. As young players emerge they will become higher paid so moving a big salary in S Jones really comes into focus after some young guns must be paid more handsomely.

I suggest we watch how rapidly some physical style dmen develop, namely Allen, DelMastro and Crevier. Even KK who will check and pin a man to the boards.

The board is fond to write both Murphy and Zaitsev departure so think about that too. Who is remaining with size and even some physical style in defending. S Jones - you know that.

While I agree S Jones should be omitted I don't believe it to be a prudent move in the next 1-2 years

And I bet KD has some ideas how he would like to eventually find S Jones a new home......thoughts twirling around to be determined ar a later date.
- jhawk59

You'll need to throw Bedard in as a sweetener if you want to trade Jones. Maybe they buy him out or pray for a Hossa like skin condition.

I made a point of watching Reichel last night. His positional play stood out to me. Not only did he play on the right side of the puck defensively he also covered the point on a few occasions when a defenseman made a foray into the opposition end. The other thing I liked was how he battled for pucks a few times. There were a couple of occasions when he did fly bus instead of engaging an opponent physically but overall I thought he battled well. There was one move I really liked, he went wide on a defender at the blue line then cut into the front of the net for a power move that resulted in a scoring chance. All that said I’d prefer to see him on Bedard’s wing.
- paulr

It appears to me that the organ-i-zation - from the GM down - is demanding that the forwards play defense. This seems important, to say the least. Combined with enough forwards in the pipeline to create real competition for roster spots down the road, the future is looking pretty good. If a few of these kids (including those not yet drafted) become real stars, we might have something. Eh?

I made a point of watching Reichel last night. His positional play stood out to me. Not only did he play on the right side of the puck defensively he also covered the point on a few occasions when a defenseman made a foray into the opposition end. The other thing I liked was how he battled for pucks a few times. There were a couple of occasions when he did fly bus instead of engaging an opponent physically but overall I thought he battled well. There was one move I really liked, he went wide on a defender at the blue line then cut into the front of the net for a power move that resulted in a scoring chance. All that said I’d prefer to see him on Bedard’s wing.
- paulr

Def agree with that assessment. Way better way of saying what I was actually thinking.

It appears to me that the organ-i-zation - from the GM down - is demanding that the forwards play defense. This seems important, to say the least. Combined with enough forwards in the pipeline to create real competition for roster spots down the road, the future is looking pretty good. If a few of these kids (including those not yet drafted) become real stars, we might have something. Eh?
- mohel

Theyre at least interesting to watch at this stage rather than being dreadful. And Richardson has them playing uncomplicated but still entertaining hockey which is fun.

Lol game 1 of the preseason of year 1…and people already complaining about not having our “Hossa” yet or not having the proper linemates for Bedard…

Could ya give it a second? Like maybe a few months even? Ffs…

This roster will be filled out accordingly in due time. Until then expect the plug-ins like Hall and Perry to do their thing and help us tank.
- SimpleJack

Was Marty havlat the answer

You'll need to throw Bedard in as a sweetener if you want to trade Jones. Maybe they buy him out or pray for a Hossa like skin condition.
- Dieselhead

Not even the cherished first round picks can leverage some teams taking S Jones until maybe like the last year of the mammoth contract. Probably still hard to move

It is not like S Jones is really desirable anyway