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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 29 @ 1:03 PM ET
As we start to jettison all the young underachievers, look for them to go elsewhere and flourish. They’ll be properly slotted and supported by better players. Part of the issue has been that we haven’t been able to build depth and have had to throw these guys into roles that they weren’t ready for.
- Hextall271

Who exactly are the young under achievers we are getting rid of?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 29 @ 1:04 PM ET
can you give an examples of where this happened?
- hello it's me 2050

People pretended NAK went and reinvented himself for a while
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
can you give an examples of where this happened?
- hello it's me 2050


Pat Maroon

Patrick Sharp

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
can you give an examples of where this happened?
- hello it's me 2050


They weren’t necessarily super young but sharp. Bob. I’ll try to think of more. Richie and carts went on to have great success when it comes to cups but they had some success here.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Pat Maroon

Patrick Sharp

- corduroy


Marron asked to be moved out.

Is jettisoned the same as traded or does it mean let go?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Pat Maroon

Patrick Sharp

- corduroy


Damn that is a ton of examples. Sharp is the only one and that was what 15-20 years ago?

WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
They weren’t necessarily super young but sharp. Bob. I’ll try to think of more. Richie and carts went on to have great success when it comes to cups but they had some success here.
- Hextall271



Bob asked to be traded. He did not want to be the backup to Bryz.

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
Marron asked to be moved out.

Is jettisoned the same as traded or does it mean let go?

- WhiskeyMan

Maroon was a problem and had to be moved. It was the right call.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
As we start to jettison all the young underachievers, look for them to go elsewhere and flourish. They’ll be properly slotted and supported by better players. Part of the issue has been that we haven’t been able to build depth and have had to throw these guys into roles that they weren’t ready for.
- Hextall271


I don't think we have enough to start sending them away. Said it before, would've preferred to keep Provie and trade sanhiem. don't like his new contract, but seemed like provie also wanted out, and to play for a winning team. none of the younger guys recently have done much since leaving.

NAK, yes won the cup, but has bounced around a little and has been a fill in.
Ratcliffe-on a pto with st.louis.
Myers- getting waived and playing those top minutes in the AHL
Patrick-no even playing, doesn't have a contract.
Bunnaman-not even sure
Rubstov-hasn't played for florida that i know of


not sure who else there is if any
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
Maroon was a problem and had to be moved. It was the right call.
- hello it's me 2050


Agreed
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 29 @ 1:18 PM ET
They weren’t necessarily super young but sharp. Bob. I’ll try to think of more. Richie and carts went on to have great success when it comes to cups but they had some success here.
- Hextall271


Sharp is the only one i can think of a young guy they gave up on/cut/waived/traded for nothing that went on elsewhere and had success. Also there is no on who thought sharp would have that great a career. Either way a bad trade.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Sharp is the only one i can think of a young guy they gave up on/cut/waived/traded for nothing that went on elsewhere and had success. Also there is no on who thought sharp would have that great a career. Either way a bad trade.
- hello it's me 2050



Well, if we are going back that far I would include Justin Williams.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Sep 29 @ 1:28 PM ET
Well, if we are going back that far I would include Justin Williams.
- MBFlyerfan


They didnt give up on Williams - they got a damn good Dman in that trade
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Sep 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
Well, if we are going back that far I would include Justin Williams.
- MBFlyerfan



that's in hindsight. he was traded for a d man (markov) to be able to step in and help with the cup run that year. in hindsight didn't work out as planned.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Sep 29 @ 1:31 PM ET
Pat Maroon

Patrick Sharp

- corduroy



Maroon is so overrated. Patrick McCaw is his NBA counterpart.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
Not big for Torts. I heard he even is not in the buildings.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Wasn't that a thing with Torts in VAN because he chose to live across the border? Guy would just delegate practices and team functions to his assistants so he could stay home lol.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Sep 29 @ 1:34 PM ET
Well, if we are going back that far I would include Justin Williams.
- MBFlyerfan

Why? that was a pure hockey trade. Flyers needed a top 4 dman and were cup contenders. You need to give to get. No issue with that trade at all.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
They weren’t necessarily super young but sharp. Bob. I’ll try to think of more. Richie and carts went on to have great success when it comes to cups but they had some success here.
- Hextall271


I was going to add maroon. Williams is a long time ago but I’d add him
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:35 PM ET
Bob asked to be traded. He did not want to be the backup to Bryz.
- WhiskeyMan


I know. But we still messed that up didn’t we?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:36 PM ET
Who exactly are the young under achievers we are getting rid of?
- ClaudeFather


I hope it doesn’t happen but we’ve all heard the rumours of hart tk sanheim being moved.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:37 PM ET
that's in hindsight. he was traded for a d man (markov) to be able to step in and help with the cup run that year. in hindsight didn't work out as planned.
- Peter Richards


I think they’re all in hindsight. Had we won in 04 no one probably even mentions it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Sep 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
They didnt give up on Williams - they got a damn good Dman in that trade
- corduroy


The team was frustrated with his mounting injuries and the plateauing of his development at the time. It was a hockey trade for an immediate need, but there was still the aspect of pulling the plug on him as a potential future building block.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
Marron asked to be moved out.

Is jettisoned the same as traded or does it mean let go?

- WhiskeyMan


Yeah. I get it. But my thought is we messed it up. It’s all in hindsight. That’s the way it’s looked at. In hindsight some would say the lindros trade was a mistake. I don’t as that was the last time we’ve had a generational talent that energized the fan base. Still my 2nd all time favourite flyer and very close to my 1st. Point is it’s all in hindsight.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
I know. But we still messed that up didn’t we?
- Hextall271


He was not jettisoned though. Bryz has a huge contract. But yes Snyder went for the shiny object and lost Bob.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 29 @ 1:41 PM ET


Maroon is so overrated. Patrick McCaw is his NBA counterpart.

- Minnyhock


He’s done well for himself though. Solid winning success since leaving
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