Was the Attard pair as bad as they came across in the highlights? If so, yikes.

And Bobby Brink ain't (frank)in around.

ND signing was insane, the term, for a goon, thanks Fletch. I enjoy his fights but he’s not a hockey player
- ClaudeFather

Like I said, you have to watch ND live to really appreciate how bad a hockey player he is. I never realized until I went to the game the other night. He is truly an offensive play killer. I really like Peohling and this is really the first time I have watched him play, he is fast, smart and skilled. I knew what Hathaway was with the Caps and Bruins, a perfect 4th liner. Put Allison on that line and I think the Flyers really have something. But I know they won't, ND is signed for 3 more years and fights, and even Briere said you need players to protect the younger players, even if there will not be that many that actually make the starting lineup yet.

Was the Attard pair as bad as they came across in the highlights? If so, yikes.

And Bobby Brink ain't (frank)in around.
- Tomahawk

One thing I noticed is both Attard and Andrae need a lot of shooting practice, they miss the net a ton.

From a production standpoint most players are pretty inconsistent. The vast majority score in streaks and spurts.

Consistency in effort and competitiveness is another ball of wax tho.
- Tomahawk

Correct, and this is exactly what I and many coaches are talking about with Frost. He clearly has the capability, I saw it firsthand the other night. But for some reason he doesn't bring it game after game. At least that was Frost at the start of last year, hence my comment about him being a tweener, because that is typically why players don't make it in the NHL, its consistency in effort. To Frost's credit, he got better as the year went along. Maybe it was just a confidence thing. Maybe it was indeed the players he played with. Maybe Frost just needed to mature. Whatever it was Frost is going to have to put it in the past to remove the stigma, and Frost has complete control over that.

Game wasn’t show up here. Saw the highlights. How did Atkinson look?
- Hextall271

Atkinson looked better as the game went along. He was slow and tentative out of the gate, but by the 3rd period he was generating plays. He is so smart in the corners, put on a clinic on how to use your body as leverage to win battles.

Andrei Vasilevskiy out at least 2 months with back surgery, and we all know how that goes. The Flyers have goalie depth with Pettersson and Sandstrom. Once the season starts Tampa will have at least $6M+ in LTIR. Seems like the Flyers have an opportunity to deal from a position of strength for once. Would you do it if you were Tampa? Back surgeries are very tricky things.

Like I said, you have to watch ND live to really appreciate how bad a hockey player he is. I never realized until I went to the game the other night. He is truly an offensive play killer. I really like Peohling and this is really the first time I have watched him play, he is fast, smart and skilled. I knew what Hathaway was with the Caps and Bruins, a perfect 4th liner. Put Allison on that line and I think the Flyers really have something. But I know they won't, ND is signed for 3 more years and fights, and even Briere said you need players to protect the younger players, even https://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-centralif there will not be that many that actually make the starting lineup yet.
- jd250

No, you don't have to watch Deslauriers live to really appreciate how bad he is. I said it all last season and I didn't attend a single game live

I know how they turn out, you are wrong 99% of the time. Need I remind you?
- jd250

Yes, you do need to remind me.

Correct, and this is exactly what I and many coaches are talking about with Frost. He clearly has the capability, I saw it firsthand the other night. But for some reason he doesn't bring it game after game. At least that was Frost at the start of last year, hence my comment about him being a tweener, because that is typically why players don't make it in the NHL, its consistency in effort. To Frost's credit, he got better as the year went along. Maybe it was just a confidence thing. Maybe it was indeed the players he played with. Maybe Frost just needed to mature. Whatever it was Frost is going to have to put it in the past to remove the stigma, and Frost has complete control over that.
- jd250

There is no spin that can justify your comment that Frost was going to be an AHL player. From the get-go, from being drafted in the first round to his entire pro career, he had NHL player written all over him. That was just another in a long line of delusional and moronic opinions you offered. All Frost needed is what I repeatedly told you he needed. To play in better situations, with more talented players. Another thing you argued against vociferously and turned out to be wrong about.

Correct, and this is exactly what I and many coaches are talking about with Frost. He clearly has the capability, I saw it firsthand the other night. But for some reason he doesn't bring it game after game. At least that was Frost at the start of last year, hence my comment about him being a tweener, because that is typically why players don't make it in the NHL, its consistency in effort. To Frost's credit, he got better as the year went along. Maybe it was just a confidence thing. Maybe it was indeed the players he played with. Maybe Frost just needed to mature. Whatever it was Frost is going to have to put it in the past to remove the stigma, and Frost has complete control over that.
- jd250

He's not at 100% yet but he's not as far away as some of you seem to think either.

He's just at a normal prospect-level work in progress stage... some of you guys talk about him like he's Pavel Brendl.

Andrei Vasilevskiy out at least 2 months with back surgery, and we all know how that goes. The Flyers have goalie depth with Pettersson and Sandstrom. Once the season starts Tampa will have at least $6M+ in LTIR. Seems like the Flyers have an opportunity to deal from a position of strength for once. Would you do it if you were Tampa? Back surgeries are very tricky things.
- jd250

What do they do when Vasilevsky returns and the LTIR exemption disappears? How could they afford the 3+M dead cap money for a buried contract if they can't move Petersson at that point? Do you honestly believe they would see Sandstrom as even a temporary solution? Seems like you didn't think this out very well.

What do they do when Vasilevsky returns and the LTIR exemption disappears? How could they afford the 3+M dead cap money for a buried contract if they can't move Petersson at that point? Do you honestly believe they would see Sandstrom as even a temporary solution? Seems like you didn't think this out very well.
- MJL

If Pettersson does well Tampa will able able to move him with only 1 year left on his deal and the cap going up. Perhaps it is you who has not thought this through.

If Pettersson does well Tampa will able able to move him with only 1 year left on his deal and the cap going up. Perhaps it is you who has not thought this through.
- jd250

Are you ever right about anything?

There is no spin that can justify your comment that Frost was going to be an AHL player. From the get-go, from being drafted in the first round to his entire pro career, he had NHL player written all over him. That was just another in a long line of delusional and moronic opinions you offered. All Frost needed is what repeatedly told you he needed. To play in better situations, with more talented players. Another thing you argued against vociferously and turned out to be wrong about.
- MJL

Your living in the past man ... me and the woodland fairies, we are living in the here and now and we're feeling so free. Come on .. join us!

Are you ever right about anything?
- MBFlyerfan

Do you have anything to say on the topic ... instead of trolling? At least I talk hockey and don't take shots at people ... more than I can say for you and many others on this forum.

If Pettersson does well Tampa will able able to move him with only 1 year left on his deal and the cap going up. Perhaps it is you who has not thought this through.
- jd250

Highly unlikely. There normally isn't a good market for a mediocre goaltender with a 5M cap hit, two months into the NHL season. You really don't get it.

Was the Attard pair as bad as they came across in the highlights? If so, yikes.

And Bobby Brink ain't (frank)in around.
- Tomahawk

I know you’re not high on him. Still would’ve tried to get Foote.

Do you have anything to say on the topic ... instead of trolling? At least I talk hockey and don't take shots at people ... more than I can say for you and many others on this forum.
- jd250

He's not trolling. He's telling you to your face what the reality is. You're wrong literally about everything. That's been proven over and over.  

Are you ever right about anything?
- MBFlyerfan

Yes he has been.

Correct, and this is exactly what I and many coaches are talking about with Frost. He clearly has the capability, I saw it firsthand the other night. But for some reason he doesn't bring it game after game. At least that was Frost at the start of last year, hence my comment about him being a tweener, because that is typically why players don't make it in the NHL, its consistency in effort. To Frost's credit, he got better as the year went along. Maybe it was just a confidence thing. Maybe it was indeed the players he played with. Maybe Frost just needed to mature. Whatever it was Frost is going to have to put it in the past to remove the stigma, and Frost has complete control over that.
- jd250

The NHL is the best league in the world. It’s not easy. It’s a challenge. Frost has the skill and make up to be successful and we’ve seen signs that he’s becoming more consistent in his entire game. Last year he took some big steps. I think there is more there. Hopefully he’s able to progress because the Flyers need some of these guys to “hit” if the rebuild is going to be successful.

Was the Attard pair as bad as they came across in the highlights? If so, yikes.

And Bobby Brink ain't (frank)in around.
- Tomahawk

I’m liking Brinks game. Kids healthy now and getting use to the pace of the NHL. If he gets that figured out his skill level is pretty high.
Attard seems to press but you can see his offensive potential… I just think Andrae and even Zamula are further along. I think Attard starts in Lehigh and gets a ton of ice time. His development hopefully continues.

The overwhelming majority of NHL players are inconsistent in their play. Frost was like most young players. Needing time to develop. Yeo is not a good coach and he delayed Frost's development with his obsolete old school methods. Tortorella did the same and had to be talked to by management to play Frost and younger players more. As usual, you're late to the party and have been harping on old issues that Frost has moved past a considerable time ago. Just as there is with judging players, there is a sample size. The sample size of your player assessments have never been remotely close to SPOT ON.

Need I remind you of this comment.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=180967&page=8

"Frost absolutely is a tweener, and IMO will be an AHL player for the most part."


SPOT ON!


- MJL

love to hear this explanation. That is way off base.

Andrei Vasilevskiy out at least 2 months with back surgery, and we all know how that goes. The Flyers have goalie depth with Pettersson and Sandstrom. Once the season starts Tampa will have at least $6M+ in LTIR. Seems like the Flyers have an opportunity to deal from a position of strength for once. Would you do it if you were Tampa? Back surgeries are very tricky things.
- jd250

how is having Cal and Felix dealing from a position of strength?

Ask yourself 1 simple question. Are there better options out tere than those 2? They sure as schit will not take on Cal for 5 million for 2 years.

Andrei Vasilevskiy out at least 2 months with back surgery, and we all know how that goes. The Flyers have goalie depth with Pettersson and Sandstrom. Once the season starts Tampa will have at least $6M+ in LTIR. Seems like the Flyers have an opportunity to deal from a position of strength for once. Would you do it if you were Tampa? Back surgeries are very tricky things.
- jd250

Absolutely not. I can’t see anyone taking on Peterson and especially not Tampa. Even if vas is out until mid season they are strong enough to kee tha ship afloat without him. The cap implications are too much unless we retained which I don’t think we would want to

Absolutely not. I can’t see anyone taking on Peterson and especially not Tampa. Even if vas is out until mid season they are strong enough to kee tha ship afloat without him. The cap implications are too much unless we retained which I don’t think we would want to
- Hextall271

even with 50% retained no one is taking cal for 2 years. He is a low end nhl level backup at best until proven otherwise.