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THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
I think Allison gets claimed.
- mickel25

By Chuck. If he still was in the business.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 6:46 PM ET
By Chuck. If he still was in the business.
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Or Hexy 😂
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 6 @ 6:51 PM ET
He wasn’t going to be known for anything else
- ClaudeFather

Lol. Excellent point!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
📸https://thehockeynews.com...mQ1a32gCM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

All the video on MM and this, does give hope

- wcorvette


If he continues to develop and MM eventually comes over and doesn’t end up as cannon fodder in Ukraine, then I don’t think this is a 10 yr rebuild.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:01 PM ET
Or Hexy 😂
- ClaudeFather


Hexy was a plant by the flyers looking to destroy the pens. Mission accomplished
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 7:02 PM ET
Vintage G last night, I’ll be pulling for Ottawa
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 7:05 PM ET
Hexy was a plant by the flyers looking to destroy the pens. Mission accomplished
- Hextall271

Probably the most frustrating GM in Flyers history. To not pick a lane to stay in and waste years of G and Jake was brutal. Go for it or don’t. At least Fletcher sucked so bad we got a rebuild out of it. I’m still amazed that Dubas cleaned up that Hexy mess so quick. Time will tell if they are good but he at least gave that roster a jolt
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 6 @ 7:17 PM ET
Vintage G last night, I’ll be pulling for Ottawa
- ClaudeFather

Same
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 6 @ 7:23 PM ET
Vintage G last night, I’ll be pulling for Ottawa
- ClaudeFather

As will I. Theyre a fun, young team to watch
Hopefully we can say the same about the flyers this season
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:29 PM ET
Probably the most frustrating GM in Flyers history. To not pick a lane to stay in and waste years of G and Jake was brutal. Go for it or don’t. At least Fletcher sucked so bad we got a rebuild out of it. I’m still amazed that Dubas cleaned up that Hexy mess so quick. Time will tell if they are good but he at least gave that roster a jolt
- ClaudeFather


I’m not certain dubas cleaned the mess up. I think there was a very limited amount hextall could do in pitt. What has dubas done? He’s mortgaged every bit of the future for what? Another playoff run where pitt will lose? They’re not contenders. It’s going to be a 10 year rebuild after Cindy goes.

The real answer was to rebuild straight away but hextall wasn’t allowed to do that. Sign and trade malkin. Maybe letang and get a ton of assets to re stock. They’re stuck in neutral trying to acomodate one more run for sid. It’s a no win job for a gm.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:31 PM ET
Probably the most frustrating GM in Flyers history. To not pick a lane to stay in and waste years of G and Jake was brutal. Go for it or don’t. At least Fletcher sucked so bad we got a rebuild out of it. I’m still amazed that Dubas cleaned up that Hexy mess so quick. Time will tell if they are good but he at least gave that roster a jolt
- ClaudeFather


Also, the most frustrating gm in our history was fletch. Zero direction and gross incompetency.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 6 @ 7:37 PM ET
I’m not certain dubas cleaned the mess up. I think there was a very limited amount hextall could do in pitt. What has dubas done? He’s mortgaged every bit of the future for what? Another playoff run where pitt will lose? They’re not contenders. It’s going to be a 10 year rebuild after Cindy goes.

The real answer was to rebuild straight away but hextall wasn’t allowed to do that. Sign and trade malkin. Maybe letang and get a ton of assets to re stock. They’re stuck in neutral trying to acomodate one more run for sid. It’s a no win job for a gm.

- Hextall271

Hextall was behind the 8ball. I bet that he wanted to move malkin and letang and he should have but, if I remember correctly, ownership was against that idea and wanted to give Crysby another playoff run.
Totally dumb decision. They have no chance to go on a cup run.
Making these trades only delayed their rebuild and cost them another few years of rebuild time added on to the timeframe

And I am loving every moment of it 🧡🖤
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:42 PM ET
I’m not certain dubas cleaned the mess up. I think there was a very limited amount hextall could do in pitt. What has dubas done? He’s mortgaged every bit of the future for what? Another playoff run where pitt will lose? They’re not contenders. It’s going to be a 10 year rebuild after Cindy goes.

The real answer was to rebuild straight away but hextall wasn’t allowed to do that. Sign and trade malkin. Maybe letang and get a ton of assets to re stock. They’re stuck in neutral trying to acomodate one more run for sid. It’s a no win job for a gm.

- Hextall271





Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 6 @ 7:48 PM ET
https://twitter.com/charlieo_conn/status/1710348734951776623?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710348734951776623%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

beyond comical....rebuilding baby. 100%.

- hello it's me 2050


That folks is why you never... ever... give John Tortorella veteran role players.

It'll be the same on defense w/ Staal and Seeler.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Oct 6 @ 7:49 PM ET
Also, the most frustrating gm in our history was fletch. Zero direction and gross incompetency.
- Hextall271


Now do Flahr.


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 7:50 PM ET
That folks is why you never... ever... give John Tortorella veteran role players.

It'll be the same on defense w/ Staal and Seeler.

- Tomahawk


Based on what I've read, it seems like Seeler is a lock for the top 6.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Oct 6 @ 7:59 PM ET
Based on what I've read, it seems like Seeler is a lock for the top 6.
- MJL


I hope Zamula likes popcorn.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 8:06 PM ET
I’m not certain dubas cleaned the mess up. I think there was a very limited amount hextall could do in pitt. What has dubas done? He’s mortgaged every bit of the future for what? Another playoff run where pitt will lose? They’re not contenders. It’s going to be a 10 year rebuild after Cindy goes.

The real answer was to rebuild straight away but hextall wasn’t allowed to do that. Sign and trade malkin. Maybe letang and get a ton of assets to re stock. They’re stuck in neutral trying to acomodate one more run for sid. It’s a no win job for a gm.

- Hextall271

Why in the world would you rebuild if you were Pitt? You stay competitive as long as possible with Crosby and when the runs over you pull the plug
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 8:08 PM ET
I’m not certain dubas cleaned the mess up. I think there was a very limited amount hextall could do in pitt. What has dubas done? He’s mortgaged every bit of the future for what? Another playoff run where pitt will lose? They’re not contenders. It’s going to be a 10 year rebuild after Cindy goes.

The real answer was to rebuild straight away but hextall wasn’t allowed to do that. Sign and trade malkin. Maybe letang and get a ton of assets to re stock. They’re stuck in neutral trying to acomodate one more run for sid. It’s a no win job for a gm.

- Hextall271

Hexy also pushed every wrong button possible, there’s a laundry list of errors. Just because it was a tough spot doesn’t mean you can be horrible at your job and then say oh well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 8:26 PM ET
Why in the world would you rebuild if you were Pitt? You stay competitive as long as possible with Crosby and when the runs over you pull the plug
- ClaudeFather


The run is over. It's been over for a number of years. They've long been at the point where the runs have drained the prospect base and put them in a tough cap spot. To the point where they're not able to effectively build the team around the top aging stars. Every team does it and hangs on too long once at the top.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 8:30 PM ET
The run is over. It's been over for a number of years. They've long been at the point where the runs have drained the prospect base and put them in a tough cap spot. To the point where they're not able to effectively build the team around the top aging stars. Every team does it and hangs on too long once at the top.
- MJL

Well then Crosby leaves, he’s not hanging around for a rebuild. You kick the can down the road until you can’t.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 6 @ 8:39 PM ET
Well then Crosby leaves, he’s not hanging around for a rebuild. You kick the can down the road until you can’t.
- ClaudeFather

like flies to poop. Criticize Saint Ronnie and here comes Cliff to defend.

He was a below average GM for 2 teams. His moves in Pitt were horrible overall.

Like Chuck who had a "mandate" to win. They both failed miserably. One at least had 3 future HOF players who are still very very productive. Yet missed the playoff.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 6 @ 8:40 PM ET
Well then Crosby leaves, he’s not hanging around for a rebuild. You kick the can down the road until you can’t.
- ClaudeFather


I agree he wouldn't. Then you trade him for a treasure. The issue is the PR hit and it would anger the fanbase. It would mean a financial hit for the franchise. Lots of reasons why they wouldn't do it. Doesn't change that from a hockey standpoint. The right move was to break it up.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Oct 6 @ 8:58 PM ET
Jason Robertson four picks after Ratcliffe in the 2017 second round.
- Dave21Brown

It wasn't necessarily not picking Robertson. It was giving up all that draft capital to jump and THEN picking an inferior player...
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 6 @ 8:59 PM ET
I agree he wouldn't. Then you trade him for a treasure. The issue is the PR hit and it would anger the fanbase. It would mean a financial hit for the franchise. Lots of reasons why they wouldn't do it. Doesn't change that from a hockey standpoint. The right move was to break it up.
- MJL

This all does not excuse Hextall for the bad job he did. He knew the assignment when signing up and failed
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