The rumor was Savoie and Kulich, or one and a 1st. So Benson + Savoie or Kulich. Whether we are screwed if Power/Dahlin go down, you don't pay that type of return for a Chychrun. Lance suggested that AZ likely wanted both as a return. Given that Ott paid a 1st and 2 2nds, and was lower in the standings, this did make sense to me. I guess it comes down to what you believe.

https://sabrenoise.com/20...es-fans-trading-chychrun/
- QuinnFan

Adams in his presser stated the cost for Buffalo exceeded the cost for Ottawa. One reason, other than what you stated, is because Chychrun preferred Ottawa with his family living there. These types of things, doing vets a 'solid', is frequently done in big boy trades.

It’s not the Chychrun hill I’m dying on.

Benson has played 0 NHL regular season games and were crowning him as a future top line stud. Which is fine, looks like that’s a possibility, but this discussion has so many constant moving goalposts

Doesn’t drafting Benson and seeing how well he’s developing out of the gate make Savoie/Kulich etc a little easier to stomach losing for a top 4 D?
- sbroads24

Sure. But the right top 4.

+ I believe they really like Savoie as well and want to pair him with Benson in the long run. As long as that shoulder holds up.

Puts them in a great position of flexibility this year leading up to the tdl. IMO Kevyyyn has us in a pretty good place...if the team as-is plays well (or even if not), he can swing for 1 or 2 pieces that are bigger than Jordan Greenway at the tdl and use up some of that prospect capital you so obviously want to get rid of.

If we stink, he can blow his wad on Pat Kane and submarine our entire existence in one move.
- LandlordTom

If we stink Kane aint coming here...

I believe it's somewhere in the middle.
- sbroads24

The mean between two extremes is often where the truth lies, agreed.

it's less about *that* guy and more about *a* guy.
- TheSabresTaco

They tried on Pesce in the offseason, he didn't move. Im sure they tried on others. They weren't overpaying at the TDL if the playoffs weren't 100% and they weren't.

They tried on Pesce in the offseason, he didn't move. Im sure they tried on others. They weren't overpaying at the TDL if the playoffs weren't 100% and they weren't.
- DirtyDan

As time goes and as some of the prospects start to lose value. It will look a lot less of an overpay for certain guys

I believe it's somewhere in the middle.
- sbroads24

Whats between 2 firsts and 1 first and 2 2nds? Not really a middle ground there...

Buffalo wouldn't pay the price so they took the lesser deal form Ottawa...

As time goes and as some of the prospects start to lose value. It will look a lot less of an overpay for certain guys
- sbroads24

And if time goes on and Chychun is still playing 55 games a year or if Savoie/Benson and/or Kulich turn into good players KA is smart for not pulling that trigger....

I'll take the potential on Benson over Chickenman

They tried on Pesce in the offseason, he didn't move. Im sure they tried on others. They weren't overpaying at the TDL if the playoffs weren't 100% and they weren't.
- DirtyDan

The specifics are irrelevant. We still don't have a competent top line fill in.

They tried on Pesce in the offseason, he didn't move. Im sure they tried on others. They weren't overpaying at the TDL if the playoffs weren't 100% and they weren't.
- DirtyDan

then they should have knocked on 20 other doors

if they really wanted an upgrade in their d core

this was the offseason to get someone

The specifics are irrelevant. We still don't have a competent top line fill in.
- TheSabresTaco

Samuelsson can find a way to play 65+ games while being an effective D-man and Jokiharju can consistently look like the player hes shown in pre-season I think we'll be alright.

Clifton may not be the top 4 guy everyone was wishing for but hes a 1000x the upgrade over Bryson. Let him get acclimated to the program.

Whats between 2 firsts and 1 first and 2 2nds? Not really a middle ground there...

..
- DirtyDan

savoie and 2 2nds

or savoie and benson

then they should have knocked on 20 other doors

if they really wanted an upgrade in their d core

this was the offseason to get someone
- homiedclown

Thats such bullcrap... no one of relevance moved(Other than a 11million$ Karlsson)... specifics may not be relevant to y'all but they do mean something

savoie and 2 2nds

or savoie and benson




- homiedclown

"I'll take the potential of Benson over Chickenman"

-DirtyDan like 3 posts ago

+ You really think they were trading Savoie? They wanted Benson, his linemate..


https://www.youtube.com/w...HiQ&ab_channel=Movieclips

Any interest?
- Hank Balling

Yes please!!

Thats such bullcrap... no one of relevance moved(Other than a 11million$ Karlsson)... specifics may not be relevant to y'all but they do mean something

- DirtyDan

Did they even try after signing their two bottom pair dmen July 1st?

Forwards of relevance moved and signed with new teams but not here either

Such a dumb argument

I'm having a hard time remembering, it was Botts who assaulted the nacho stand, right?
- QuinnFan

According to legend, Botts went off on the nacho cart after the Sabres stunk it up on Children’s Night.

Thats such bullcrap... no one of relevance moved(Other than a 11million$ Karlsson)... specifics may not be relevant to y'all but they do mean something

- DirtyDan

yeah gm's never trade a player they did not plan on traded because they got a great offer


that never happens

That LaNova pizza might smell like literal dead rat, taste like it too but dont let Terry Pegs know, he'll just take away the Pepperoni and give it to you cold
- DirtyDan

This one time I brought my dad to they game. It was like Boxing Day of the McEichel draft year.

Went to take him for wings at Gabriel’s Gate and it was too busy. anchor bar was too busy. He was getting nervous bc game time was at hand.

I thought hmmm this looks interesting. A real Buffalonian treat and went to the Beef on Weck place.

Cold shmeat on a dry-as, salty bun. Choked it down because what else was I gonna eat? Worst food choice ever

And the Sabres win that night against the slanders and we were booing bc they had lost so many games in a row and then they won that night.

F the Weck Buns.

Heard this last year too
- sbroads24

Member at the TDL it went from “all the cap space” to zero reason to make a move and mortgage the future we have all off-season to make moves”

Then it went from this off-season to next trade deadline. I wonder what will happen at the TDL.

I have a fairly good hypotenuse…..

Did they even try after signing their two bottom pair dmen July 1st?

Forwards of relevance moved and signed with new teams but not here either

Such a dumb argument
- ieetbred

How do you know if Adam’s tried or not to trade for a defender?

Grab a box of Kleenex

"I'll take the potential of Benson over Chickenman"

-DirtyDan like 3 posts ago

+ You really think they were trading Savoie? They wanted Benson, his linemate..


https://www.youtube.com/w...HiQ&ab_channel=Movieclips
- DirtyDan

keep thinking every sabre prospect is untouchable

I’d like a few more “Adam’s” guys myself

Maybe rod’s kid at the deadline ?
- Boss34

BrindAmour?? Doesn’t his dad hate Skinner?

Awkward.


Like we can never have Domi either bc Rayzor would fight his dad in the parking lot.

They tried on Pesce in the offseason, he didn't move. Im sure they tried on others. They weren't overpaying at the TDL if the playoffs weren't 100% and they weren't.
- DirtyDan

I would love some of y’all as my boss all I’d have to say is “I’m trying” and I’d be crowned as best in the business.

Thats such bullcrap... no one of relevance moved(Other than a 11million$ Karlsson)... specifics may not be relevant to y'all but they do mean something

- DirtyDan

Because KA is more concerned with "losing a trade" than winning NHL hockey games.

Having a surplus of picks and prospects is what was supposedly going to give us the leg up on prying NHL talent from a team.


Where does Ostlund fit in on this roster in 1-2 years?

What about Rosen?