- MBFlyerfan

This is the kind of virtue signaling you should really be watching out for. Happens like clockwork with these right wing projection artists.

https://www.lgbtqnation.c...pictures-on-his-computer/

https://www.lgbtqnation.c...ears-for-child-sex-abuse/

This is the kind of virtue signaling you should really be watching out for. Happens like clockwork with these right wing projection artists.

https://www.lgbtqnation.c...pictures-on-his-computer/

https://www.lgbtqnation.c...ears-for-child-sex-abuse/
- Feanor

Do the Catholic Church next

Provorov doesn't care. He just doesn't want to be forced to bend the knee to the rainbow jihad.
- Letterkenney

Just replace "rainbow jihad" with "miscegenation", and you don't even have to change the rest of the rhetoric. It's exactly the same crap white America used in the 50s to oppose desegregation, including falsely claiming it was because of their religion that they didn't want blacks and whites mixing.

There are differences. Provy didn't want to participate and said nothing negative about anyone and the he respects everyone's opinion. . Provy gets called out for following his religion. I have seen no one who called him out saying I don't like what he did but it is his right. They all call out his religion.

My issue is that it seems the christian is an easy target. There are other religions that say being is wrong.
- WhiskeyMan

If they felt that wasn't his right, they would have sued him or asked for his arrest.

Wasn't there a guy calling for a Muslim ban into the US just a few years ago? And don't Jews get constantly harassed all over the world?

https://twitter.com/Jeff_Neiburg/status/1712478531941535754?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1712478531941535754%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050

This team still plays the wrong way today.

If they felt that wasn't his right, they would have sued him or asked for his arrest.

Wasn't there a guy calling for a Muslim ban into the US just a few years ago? And don't Jews get constantly harassed all over the world?
- PT21

uh yea and the amount of anti semitism coming out now is sickening

Being Gay is not normal. If it was they would be in the majority. Trying to push the narrative that is normal is just wrong. Should you hate someone because they are wired a different way? No. I think the message should be don’t hate on the gay community but it should end there. Accepting them as a normal occurrence is just confusing because it’s not a normal occurrence.

Being Gay is not normal. If it was they would be in the majority. Trying to push the narrative that is normal is just wrong. Should you hate someone because they are wired a different way? No. I think the message should be don’t hate on the gay community but it should end there. Accepting them as a normal occurrence is just confusing because it’s not a normal occurrence.
- Keyser soze

Pretty sure that was the message.

Being Gay is not normal. If it was they would be in the majority. Trying to push the narrative that is normal is just wrong. Should you hate someone because they are wired a different way? No. I think the message should be don’t hate on the gay community but it should end there. Accepting them as a normal occurrence is just confusing because it’s not a normal occurrence.
- Keyser soze

Neither is being left handed, being a ginger, being blond or having blue eye (the last 3 are all genetically recessive)

I feel that we should definitely make sure none of those groups ever feel normal. We can tolerate them, and recognize their right to existence, but bro, lets draw a hard line beyond that.

I have always saw the potential in Frost, however until the second half of last year that potential was not being realized. We'll see how that goes this year.
- jd250

How can you claim you have always seen the potential in Frost when you posted that he would never be more than an AHL player?

I assume you didn't watch the last 3 preseason games ? They skated circles around both NYI and Boston. For starters, Bobby Brink. He was skating ahead of defensive pressure and creating lanes. Forester was also doing the same, although in a different way (more north/south) vs. Brink who was able to do this on the cycle. Not all are prospects. Atkinson is a strong skater in his own right. He is a pk player because of his defensive play + speed. Emil Andrae is a strong skater.
I will have to agree with you in part, because out of these 4 examples, 2 are not going to start tonight (Andrae and Forester). However, the overall pace of play they have been playing at is a much higher tempo.
In conclusion, will this move the needle ? Probably not if they can't turn this advantage into high percentage shots. And that is what I noticed. They cycled well, and were able to get opportunities, but were not high quality. That will come in time. Chemistry, due to 6 new players on this roster is going to slow down the positives. We will need to be patient.
- BluehorseShoe64

I think you place way too high of a value on pre-season hockey. The games start tonight. We'll see if Brink and Zamula increase the Flyers team speed and possession play over time in the regular season.

Do you have a Crystal ball ? How do you know they will come up empty for defensemen the next 4 years ? Have you forgotten how bad NJ was ? Did anyone think they were going to turn it around ? As soon as they were able to become a bubble playoff team, were able to sign an expensive free agent D man (Dougie Hamilton) and it began there with the first marquee signing. Then was easier to sell it to other free agents, plus they had strong prospects emerging. Briere will do the same.
- BluehorseShoe64

He isn't doing anything different then you have done with looking at how certain players are going to increase the Flyers speed and possession.

But I'll take those mistakes because he has ultimately what it takes to see it through. He'll win more than he loses, and he won't give up or become passive.
- BluehorseShoe64

Do you have a crystal ball?

So I hear that Provy said (in a report that came out) that the Flyers were making his game worse? I apologize if this has already been discussed cause I didn't backread, but from what I glanced over it's just a bunch of political sh!t anyway. I hope someone runs him through the boards cause he should just STFU and play hockey! Thanks!

He isn't doing anything different then you have done with looking at how certain players are going to increase the Flyers speed and possession.
- MJL

Fantilli will expose flyers lack of D men speed.

I think you place way too high of a value in pre-season hockey. The games start tonight. We'll see in Brink and Zamula increase the Flyers team speed and possession play over time in the regular season.
- MJL

Hey, we actually agree! I hope hell doesn't freeze over tomorrow! I put very little stock in preseason games although these guy did win jobs by playing well in them. I also don't think Brink is going to add speed to the team cause he isn't that fast from what I have seen. Same with Zamula. They played well in the preseason, but neither one looked like a speed hound to me.

Neither is being left handed, being a ginger, being blond or having blue eye (the last 3 are all genetically recessive)

I feel that we should definitely make sure none of those groups ever feel normal. We can tolerate them, and recognize their right to existence, but bro, lets draw a hard line beyond that.
- PT21

That's pretty much as far as the NHL pride nights went anyway. Not sure why people were losing their minds over it? I'd be happy with people just being tolerant at this point. I'd like to not have to worry that someone will shoot my kid because they were holding hands with their same-sex partner.

So I hear that Provy said (in a report that came out) that the Flyers were making his game worse? I apologize if this has already been discussed cause I didn't backread, but from what I glanced over it's just a bunch of political sh!t anyway. I hope someone runs him through the boards cause he should just STFU and play hockey! Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

Here's the quote: "Overall, the last three years the way the team played over there is just not really my game. It was a lot of rimming, throwing the puck away. For a player that I consider myself that can make plays and can contribute and play with the puck, that felt like it was making my game worse. To be on a team that can make plays and is allowed to make plays, it's been really refreshing. I can actually play my game." I find it hard to believe any coach (even Tortorella) would tell Provorov that they'd prefer he just fling the puck up the boards rather than make a play.

Here's the quote: "Overall, the last three years the way the team played over there is just not really my game. It was a lot of rimming, throwing the puck away. For a player that I consider myself that can make plays and can contribute and play with the puck, that felt like it was making my game worse. To be on a team that can make plays and is allowed to make plays, it's been really refreshing. I can actually play my game." I find it hard to believe any coach (even Tortorella) would tell Provorov that they'd prefer he just fling the puck up the boards rather than make a play.
- Dkos

Okay, I didn't see the actual quote. Having seen that quote I will take back my response. Thanks for showing me the light on this subject. I actually agree with Provy when I see it in that light.

Provorov must be so proud that Pride tape is banned.
- Feanor

Banned by the NHL sponsors. So Bettman had to follow suit.

Here's the quote: "Overall, the last three years the way the team played over there is just not really my game. It was a lot of rimming, throwing the puck away. For a player that I consider myself that can make plays and can contribute and play with the puck, that felt like it was making my game worse. To be on a team that can make plays and is allowed to make plays, it's been really refreshing. I can actually play my game." I find it hard to believe any coach (even Tortorella) would tell Provorov that they'd prefer he just fling the puck up the boards rather than make a play.
- Dkos

You may find it hard to believe but it's the reality. It's been one of my biggest gripes with Tortorella and his archaic system of play. Watch the Flyers play. Watch their breakout scheme. Every play is along the wall. Do they use reverses or over-overs? Do they use the middle of the ice and activate the weak side defenseman. Is there any deception whatsoever in their breakouts. Watch every D zone faceoff and what happens if they win the draw. Puck goes up the wall the majority of the time. Some may find the words an excuse for Provorov and I understand that but he has a valid point there.

You may find it hard to believe but it's the reality. It's been one of my biggest gripes with Tortorella and his archaic system of play. Watch the Flyers play. Watch their breakout scheme. Every play is along the wall. Do they use reverses or over-overs? Do they use the middle of the ice and activate the weak side defenseman. Is there any deception whatsoever in their breakouts. Watch every D zone faceoff and what happens if they win the draw. Puck goes up the wall the majority of the time. Some may find the words an excuse for Provorov and I understand that but he has a valid point there.
- MJL

He said it's been like that for the last 3 years. Tortorella has only been here one year. I'm sorry it's hard to believe a coach doesn't want the player to make a good play. Systems are just a framework. You are still free, as a player (especially the #1 d-man) to react to the situation and make a play.

He said it's been like that for the last 3 years. Tortorella has only been here one year. I'm sorry it's hard to believe a coach doesn't want the player to make a good play. Systems are just a framework. You are still free, as a player (especially the #1 d-man) to react to the situation and make a play.
- Dkos

Damn, you had me convinced to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now I'm back to wanting him to be run through the boards. My original thought was that it sounded like an excuse and I guess you should always go with your original thought! I overlooked the 3 year thing and thought it was all on Torts. Now it's back to being a lame excuse. Thanks!

Don't sleep on Zamula.

Our bar is set low. I think this team gets to the 80 point mark. Out of playoffs. Out of high draft pick. Same old Flyers...

But better than last year. More fun to watch. Our D is bad. Entire line up is average to below average but they'll compete.

They don't hate to lose.

He said it's been like that for the last 3 years. Tortorella has only been here one year. I'm sorry it's hard to believe a coach doesn't want the player to make a good play. Systems are just a framework. You are still free, as a player (especially the #1 d-man) to react to the situation and make a play.
- Dkos

Not at you, but they haven't exactly had quality puck moving dmen to establish better/more elaborate breakouts. They desperately need to remake the blue line, but it will take a couple years.