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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: Game 1 @ CBJ (10/12/23)
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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 12 @ 6:00 PM ET
Don't sleep on Zamula.

Our bar is set low. I think this team gets to the 80 point mark. Out of playoffs. Out of high draft pick. Same old Flyers...

But better than last year. More fun to watch. Our D is bad. Entire line up is average to below average but they'll compete.

They don't hate to lose.

- cdearth23


I highly doubt that 80 points will be much, if any different, in overall ranking than last season. I agree that they will improve offensively and be more fun to watch as a result.

Looking forward to seeing a good game. Let’s go Flyers!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:03 PM ET
He said it's been like that for the last 3 years. Tortorella has only been here one year. I'm sorry it's hard to believe a coach doesn't want the player to make a good play. Systems are just a framework. You are still free, as a player (especially the #1 d-man) to react to the situation and make a play.
- Dkos


Systems are far more than just a framework in hockey. If there is no option for a reversal on a set play off a defensive zone draw, then that play is not there to be made. It is clear as day how and where Tortorella wants the puck to go. Flyers both under Yeo and under Tortorella, clearly don't have the option to use the middle of the ice or the weak side on breakouts. It was so ridiculously easy for opposition teams with advanced scouting to forecheck the Flyers knowing all they had to do was cut off the wall with no threat of getting beat up the middle of the ice.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 12 @ 6:06 PM ET
How can you claim you have always seen the potential in Frost when you posted that he would never be more than an AHL player?
- MJL

At the time he was playing like an AHL player. Look Frost has skill and speed, but he is small and away from the puck he was a disaster. It did not look like he had any interest in learning how to play at both ends of the ice, and on top of that, he was constantly behind the puck and pretty much a no-show on most nights. Torts obviously has got the best out of him and moved him forward considerably to a point where just watching him live at the pre-season game in Boston, he was one of the most tenacious back checkers on the Flyers, and really showed me a lot. A year ago at this time he was nothing more than an AHL player. the potential was there, but was the desire and work ethic? Well, Torts may have finally unlocked that. But before you take a victory lap, let's see how consistently well Frost plays this season.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 12 @ 6:11 PM ET
How can you claim you have always seen the potential in Frost when you posted that he would never be more than an AHL player?
- MJL

I want to hear your big, bold predictions for the Flyers this year. I gave you mine, but in case you missed them:

1. The Flyers will finish with 82 points and finish ahead of the Caps and Blue Jackets
2. The Flyers will finish with about 245 goals scored this season, which puts them about 21 in the league
3. The Flyers penalty kill will improve to 80% this year
4. The Flyers will lose no more than 7 OT games.

I know, not very bold predictions, I'm kind of playing it safe. But I want to see what your BIG, BOLD Predictions are for this team!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:14 PM ET
At the time he was playing like an AHL player. Look Frost has skill and speed, but he is small and away from the puck he was a disaster. It did not look like he had any interest in learning how to play at both ends of the ice, and on top of that, he was constantly behind the puck and pretty much a no-show on most nights. Torts obviously has got the best out of him and moved him forward considerably to a point where just watching him live at the pre-season game in Boston, he was one of the most tenacious back checkers on the Flyers, and really showed me a lot. A year ago at this time he was nothing more than an AHL player. the potential was there, but was the desire and work ethic? Well, Torts may have finally unlocked that. But before you take a victory lap, let's see how consistently well Frost plays this season.
- jd250


No, he wasn't playing like an AHL player. You have been nothing but wrong when it comes to Frost. You didn't say he was playing like an AHL player. You said he will never be anything more than an AHL player. Which means you failed to see his potential which is exactly what you criticized others for. Tortorella didn't get the best out of him. Tortorella held him back from continuing to progress and be the same player he was down the stretch the season before. Until Briere had to tell him to play Frost more.

Take a victory lap?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 6:37 PM ET
Was the lineup confirmed
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Oct 12 @ 6:52 PM ET
Just replace "rainbow jihad" with "miscegenation", and you don't even have to change the rest of the rhetoric. It's exactly the same crap white America used in the 50s to oppose desegregation, including falsely claiming it was because of their religion that they didn't want blacks and whites mixing.
- Feanor

wtf
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:13 PM ET
Flyers broadcast pumping the PHD line…

A team destined to finish .500 if things go well pumping up the 4th line.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 12 @ 7:14 PM ET
Wist the flyers had a cannon to (litteraly).
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 12 @ 7:16 PM ET
I would say lets all take a drink every time the broadcast praises the 4th line. But I want us all to live through the night.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:17 PM ET
First shift of the season, they start the 4th line. Tells you all they need to know.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 12 @ 7:20 PM ET
Gotta like that!
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 12 @ 7:20 PM ET
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THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
Great ass from Couts
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 7:21 PM ET
Man if they would have fouled that up....
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:22 PM ET
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- THE EVIL WITHIN


Bee! Both him and coots increasing their trade value.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:24 PM ET
Man if they would have fouled that up....
- Pelle31Forever


Is that zamula or 2008 coburn wearing that number 5.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:25 PM ET
Great ass from Couts
- THE EVIL WITHIN


Celebrating pride day early?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 7:26 PM ET
Is that zamula or 2008 coburn wearing that number 5.
- Hextall271


Haha right. I'm trying to get used to these numbers. Cates with 27 is still tripping me up.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:27 PM ET
Is that zamula or 2008 coburn wearing that number 5.
- Hextall271


I thought the same thing. Same "appearance" as Coburn. If he turns out as good, that would be great.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 12 @ 7:30 PM ET
Flyers do not have the puck much in this game so far, and thus giving up way too many shots on goal!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 12 @ 7:31 PM ET
I thought the same thing. Same "appearance" as Coburn. If he turns out as good, that would be great.
- MJL


Coburn probably had 40lbs on Zamula.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 7:31 PM ET
All them Flyers on one side of the ice. Anyone of the BJ's could have potted that.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Season Ticket Holder
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Oct 12 @ 7:31 PM ET
Beans 🫘 πŸ› 🫘 fart
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Oct 12 @ 7:31 PM ET
Staal looks old and slow, not a surprise.
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