Petey tied for the league scoring but is invisible out there 😮

Actually, looks about right. Looks to me like they're still not comfortable as a team with the systems play. Also the bottom 6 hasn't really been a factor the last couple of games. Maybe since Lafferty scored in Edmonton.

I agree with your later post. The long change is killing them. I also think that not having last change does as well. Combine the 2 and it's been disastrous.

It's still early, thank God the Goalies are on while they iron this stuff out. 2 and 2 is actually better than last year. But man those last couple were painful to watch.
- Load Management

Canucks 4th line has been dominated for a couple of games now. The last two lines have no goals together as units. Lafftery- Hoglander -Studnicka in 13.9 minutes have zero scoring chances created. Laffy and Hoglander have connected a couple times, not sure who the 3rd forward was at that time.

I don't have stats but I swear they dump and chase top 5 in the league but are not very good at retrieving it. I'd much rather they keep the puck much more.

Chris Johnston

Jesse Puljujärvi is looking pretty strong in these clips as he works his way back from offseason hip surgery.

Reclamation product!!!!!

Sure, yeah. That's gonna fix everything.
- Load Management

I said IMPROVE not FIX.

I said IMPROVE not FIX.
- Retinalz

It might take some time for the defenders to get used to each other. Canucks do have 4 new defenders playing. They still need an upgrade I'd say but they could use a few upgrades.

Canucks 4th line has been dominated for a couple of games now. The last two lines have no goals together as units. Lafftery- Hoglander -Studnicka in 13.9 minutes have zero scoring chances created. Laffy and Hoglander have connected a couple times, not sure who the 3rd forward was at that time.

I don't have stats but I swear they dump and chase top 5 in the league but are not very good at retrieving it. I'd much rather they keep the puck much more.
- manvanfan

Yeah, any zone entry and exit stats are behind a pay wall. Which sucks.

But it's pretty obvious they aren't attacking the opposition blue line with speed and possession. They are bogging down as a 5 man unit in the neutral zone. In camp they had one man fly the zone in an attempt to spread out the defensive coverage and generate space, but I think teams caught on to that pretty quickly. They are also back to the problems they had last season breaking out with proper support. Hence the 1 guy dump and pray. No structure.

Todays scraps...

https://www.eliteprospect.../player/397650/liam-foudy

Yeah, any zone entry and exit stats are behind a pay wall. Which sucks.

But it's pretty obvious they aren't attacking the opposition blue line with speed and possession. They are bogging down as a 5 man unit in the neutral zone. In camp they had one man fly the zone in an attempt to spread out the defensive coverage and generate space, but I think teams caught on to that pretty quickly. They are also back to the problems they had last season breaking out with proper support. Hence the 1 guy dump and pray. No structure.
- Load Management

3 coaches later and structure is still the issue and it's not really the same players except for core. Obviously some players struggle with it more than others.

Todays scraps...

https://www.eliteprospect.../player/397650/liam-foudy
- VanHockeyGuy

18th overall pick. Yikes. He should have been a 4th round pick honestly from his draft year stats.

18th overall pick. Yikes. He should have been a 4th round pick honestly from his draft year stats.
- manvanfan

Doesn't look like he's played very much.

Doesn't look like he's played very much.
- VanHockeyGuy

He's quick but not much else. Pretty well just another Studnicka type.

Canucks 4th line has been dominated for a couple of games now. The last two lines have no goals together as units. Lafftery- Hoglander -Studnicka in 13.9 minutes have zero scoring chances created. Laffy and Hoglander have connected a couple times, not sure who the 3rd forward was at that time.

I don't have stats but I swear they dump and chase top 5 in the league but are not very good at retrieving it. I'd much rather they keep the puck much more.
- manvanfan

Yeah RT’s offensive system not so great for this group 5v5. Being better defensively is fine but if you are not creating enough scoring it’s all for not.

3 coaches later and structure is still the issue and it's not really the same players except for core. Obviously some players struggle with it more than others.
- manvanfan

It's only 4 games in. As you alluded to earlier it's also different line combos and D pairings trying to adopt a different style of play.

I don't quite understand the level of panic from some. This team isn't gonna gel in a month and magically become contenders. They're still gonna take their licks...and are.

Yeah RT’s offensive system not so great for this group 5v5. Being better defensively is fine but if you are not creating enough scoring it’s all for not.
- Quinn's Quest

The Sedin's were always perimeter players. I remember watching the 10-11 year the first 10 games and it was one pass, two pass and puck to the net. No 8 passes in the corner first. Direct and to the net, that year I said they play this way, they are going to the cup finals.

This Canucks team needs to get pucks to the front of the net more often. Even if there isn't a clear cut chance, too much low to high I'd say.

It's only 4 games in. As you alluded to earlier it's also different line combos and D pairings trying to adopt a different style of play.

I don't quite understand the level of panic from some. This team isn't gonna gel in a month and magically become contenders. They're still gonna take their licks...and are.
- Load Management

Problem is if it does take more a month or more, could really kill playoff chances.

The panic for some I believe is because this is the same story for the past few years. Canucks play a good game here but then are caved in for far too many in a row. Takes a toll defending all game long.

I'm fine with their record right now but game play to me has to be more consistent and better. They don't need 60% per night but at least 50% on more than half the nights.

Problem is if it does take more a month or more, could really kill playoff chances.

The panic for some I believe is because this is the same story for the past few years. Canucks play a good game here but then are caved in for far too many in a row. Takes a toll defending all game long.

I'm fine with their record right now but game play to me has to be more consistent and better. They don't need 60% per night but at least 50% on more than half the nights.
- manvanfan

I guess for me the dose of reality came when I went to watch LA's home opener against the Avs. Especially after watching Canucks camp and that preseason game. The step up is bigger than most realize and it isn't going to be accomplished in a season or 2.

It's only 4 games in. As you alluded to earlier it's also different line combos and D pairings trying to adopt a different style of play.

I don't quite understand the level of panic from some. This team isn't gonna gel in a month and magically become contenders. They're still gonna take their licks...and are.
- Load Management

Plus most of preseason they were running

Hughes - McWard
Cole - Hronek
Soucy - Myers

And that's changed now so need to settle in on that front. Myers is still terrible, but it explains why the other 5 need adjustment time

The Sedin's were always perimeter players. I remember watching the 10-11 year the first 10 games and it was one pass, two pass and puck to the net. No 8 passes in the corner first. Direct and to the net, that year I said they play this way, they are going to the cup finals.

This Canucks team needs to get pucks to the front of the net more often. Even if there isn't a clear cut chance, too much low to high I'd say.
- manvanfan

No denying the were great players. I just wasn't ever a fan of their style of play.

Plus most of preseason they were running

Hughes - McWard
Cole - Hronek
Soucy - Myers

And that's changed now so need to settle in on that front. Myers is still terrible, but it explains why the other 5 need adjustment time
- NewYorkNuck

Plus most of preseason they were running

Hughes - McWard
Cole - Hronek
Soucy - Myers

And that's changed now so need to settle in on that front. Myers is still terrible, but it explains why the other 5 need adjustment time
- NewYorkNuck

I spent most of the morning cuddling with my doll and silently weeping. I'm over it.

I guess for me the dose of reality came when I went to watch LA's home opener against the Avs. Especially after watching Canucks camp and that preseason game. The step up is bigger than most realize and it isn't going to be accomplished in a season or 2.
- Load Management

I'm more at the point that the effort isn't there enough nights. Team on paper should be a top 15 team in the league easily. Too many periods off, too many nights off to be every considered a contender.

No denying the were great players. I just wasn't ever a fan of their style of play.
- VanHockeyGuy

It worked for them and they had a lot of really nice goals, but I think if they were more direct to the net more often, might have seen a cup come to Van.

I'm more at the point that the effort isn't there enough nights. Team on paper should be a top 15 team in the league easily. Too many periods off, too many nights off to be every considered a contender.
- manvanfan

I think the effort is there but misguided. You watch a top team like Colorado and most of the time everything looks effortless. They know where to be before the play happens. Another thing is they have the ability to juggle forwards around with different players and D pairings aren't static. Toews and Makar play with other partners all game, along with being a pair. MacKinnon isn't glued to Rantanen etc.

All of this comes with familiarity with the system and among players. Also from continuity. It makes them damn hard to match lines against. Nothing of which the Canucks have had in the last 5 years.

I spent most of the morning cuddling with my doll and silently weeping. I'm over it.
- Load Management

Glad you have an outlet

Glad you have an outlet
- NewYorkNuck

One would need it pumping Myers tires only to be so tragically disappointed.