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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 9:30 AM ET
I sure do. I call it as I see it. Right or wrong or good or bad.
- MJL

you da man cliff
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 9:32 AM ET
But I really want to get to the real problem on this team, the freaking Power Play. It's absolutely embarrassing right now, and it's been this way for the past 3 seasons. I think in this case it's the coaching, because I think the Flyers have enough talent up front to have at least a middle of the pack Powerplay. I like Rocky Thompson, but we are now going on a 2nd season where the Flyers can't even enter the offensive zone cleanly and even when they do, they are over-passing looking for the perfect play. I really think the Flyers should bring in a PP consultant to augment their staff and at least show some competence with the man advantage.
- jd250

then why doesn't the head coach, who preaches and raves about accountability, do something about it? I know he wont throw his buddy rocky under the bus.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 9:33 AM ET
It's weird, cause they apparently can live with Cates and Tippett having zero points from six games, and also from Cates struggling defensively in limited minutes now that Couturier is back getting a ton of time against the other team's best players.
- Feanor

always bringing up cates when it comes to frost. I love it.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
always bringing up cates when it comes to frost. I love it.
- hello it's me 2050

Don’t forget Tippett! I did think Tippett was the worst among the trio through 3 games
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 19 @ 9:35 AM ET
Forget Frost for a minute. It's objectively ridiculous than Andrae and Zamula are on the team and not playing every game while 30-somethings Seeler and Staal are.
- Feanor


Staal is toast. I am fine with Seeler playing. I respect his work ethic and he has become a reliable defender.

I do not know much about Walker. At least send Andrae back to the Phantoms if he is not going to play with the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 9:38 AM ET
Don’t forget Tippett! I did think Tippett was the worst among the trio through 3 games
- ClaudeFather


Tippett's numbers after two games were worse than Frost's.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
Tippett's numbers after two games were worse than Frost's.
- MJL

Not so much about numbers when talking two games but how they are playing. Like I said Tippett was the worst amount the 3. Regardless, these are not the guys who should be sitting
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Not so much about numbers when talking two games but how they are playing. Like I said Tippett was the worst amount the 3. Regardless, these are not the guys who should be sitting
- ClaudeFather


None of them should be sitting. They need to be coached through any difficulties. You need some vets during a rebuild but it's overboard with the Flyers. If Brink, Foerster, Andrae and Zamula made the team. They should be in the lineup every game when healthy.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
None of them should be sitting. They need to be coached through any difficulties. You need some vets during a rebuild but it's overboard with the Flyers. If Brink, Foerster, Andrae and Zamula made the team. They should be in the lineup every game when healthy.
- MJL

Really like what I’ve seen from Brink
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 9:48 AM ET
Really like what I’ve seen from Brink
- ClaudeFather


No doubt.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 19 @ 9:50 AM ET
BS, Flyers fans have no clue what patience is because the Flyers have been good to decent for 45 of their 55 years in the league. In the past 55 years they have the third most wins in the league, they’ve been to the cup finals eight times, more than any other team except Montreal and Boston, three times in the 70’s, three times in the 80’s, once in the 90’s and in 2010.

Since 2010 they made the playoffs six times, everyone acts like we’ve been bottom feeders for decades, which is complete BS. Have they been cup contenders, no, but the tears in here are laughable. The Flyers have been a very competitive franchise for most of their history, the past five years have been crap but they’re trying to change that.

2019/2020 they had 41 wins in 69 games, a .645 winning percentage. Yes they haven’t won the cup since 1975 but the notion it’s been a bag of shit is a completely false narrative.

- Dave21Brown

Yeah I wasn't going back to the 70s and 80s.
I was referring to the last few years under the feltch regime. We all knew that we needed a rebuild and feltxh fed us lies.
But thanks for the Flyers history lesson
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Oct 19 @ 9:51 AM ET
Remember when people here used to criticize you for being too much of a homer?
- Dkos


He has is favs, he was 100% a homer in the hextall days. Couldnt see reality through his love of hextall.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 10:02 AM ET
He has is favs, he was 100% a homer in the hextall days. Couldnt see reality through his love of hextall.
- bradster

well in all fairness one shouldn't question a sons love for their father.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 19 @ 10:02 AM ET
None of them should be sitting. They need to be coached through any difficulties. You need some vets during a rebuild but it's overboard with the Flyers. If Brink, Foerster, Andrae and Zamula made the team. They should be in the lineup every game when healthy.
- MJL


SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 19 @ 10:21 AM ET
more value at the TDL?
- 2Real

How much more? I guess that’s plausible if the return is much better compared to say we traded them at draft or so and we finished bottom 5 compared to bottom 10 or so by keeping them until tdl.

To me the value at its highest is at draft or when teams have most amount of cap space and typically are willing to take on contracts.

I’m not fully out on team only because they landed a stud in michkov but I see them still as status quo until they move some players with real value
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 19 @ 10:28 AM ET
I expect us to get creamed tonight unless whoever starts in net for Edmonton lays an egg which is a 50/50 shot. Haha
- Hextall271


being saying the same, the only thing, I also thought Vancouver would walk all over the Flyers, after watching them stomped the Oil. Yea, Vancouver took the Flyers lightly but you can make a case that the Flyers a better defensive game than the oil did vs Vancouver. Are the oil that bad on the D side of the puck? My gut says the oil will win and will win by at least 2.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
Because the market expands at the deadline. Other than if they were looking to trade Konecny at this point in time, there won't be much of a market for any player the Flyers might be looking to move. Most top teams are in a tight cap space situation. Which means the Flyers would have to retain or take back a contract in order to move that player now. What other veteran player on this team is a viable candidate to trade to a team with contending hopes right now? To get them to give up what cap space they have? For teams that are under the cap and can bank space. That they would make a move now to trump what players might be available at the deadline? They would have to view that player as a missing piece. Which player is that other than possibly Konecny?
- MJL


No I totally agree at current time you wait until deadline. The correct move was to move them at draft or when new league season opened when teams had more cap money. All they have done is prolong the rebuild. They barring some not by there doing luck will fall out of more favorable draft position in this key year by being “too good”

Hopefully they move players with real value at tdl but I doubt it. Even at that if they do then why not do it before season started? Help the draft position and get the younger players growing pains a head start.

Worst case scenario they keep the hart tk laughts etc players beyond tdl and into next season which is just a status quo organization move typical of a flyers team that will get it
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 19 @ 10:36 AM ET
But I really want to get to the real problem on this team, the freaking Power Play. It's absolutely embarrassing right now, and it's been this way for the past 3 seasons. I think in this case it's the coaching, because I think the Flyers have enough talent up front to have at least a middle of the pack Powerplay. I like Rocky Thompson, but we are now going on a 2nd season where the Flyers can't even enter the offensive zone cleanly and even when they do, they are over-passing looking for the perfect play. I really think the Flyers should bring in a PP consultant to augment their staff and at least show some competence with the man advantage.
- jd250


They are counting on Tip to skate it in the zone, Tip has been handling the puck like a grenade. I would not change that for now, 3 games in, give it some time. They need some confidence once they are set up and the need to have a real threat in the slot. I like the low setup, assume they want to create lanes to get the puck in the slot, just njo bumper there, except the 5v3 that TK converted. Again a spot where you put your most creative player on PP1, that is Frost, but when in, he gets sparing seconds on the PP. I actually like Torts but the man has ZERO patience and if does not like you, the word patience does not exist .
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 19 @ 10:41 AM ET
Since the 2005 lockout and the introduction of the salary cap they have only had one really good playoff run, and that was a season where they needed a miracle just to make the payoffs after finishing with the 19th= best record in a 30 team league!

If they had fluked a Cup in 2010 with an AHL goalie in net that would been awesome, and really changed the feeling around the team, but they didn't.

- Feanor


as I remember it, the cap was coming in and Homer still went for it the prior season. They never really got their footing with the cap after that, and todays NHL, the cap is king.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 19 @ 10:48 AM ET
He has is favs, he was 100% a homer in the hextall days. Couldnt see reality through his love of hextall.
- bradster


Who doesn't have their favorites? Hard to say if the Flyers would be better off today if they stayed with Hextall. Really, how much worse could they be? I feel like Hextall had the right plan in mind...just have my doubts that he was the guy to execute it successfully. It didn't take a genius to see that the Flyers needed to clear cap space and build from the draft. He struck out here and in Pittsburgh. That's pretty telling. Not sure he's going to get another chance to try.

I don't know how you can't be skeptical of the Flyers at this point. It's incredibly frustrating, to me, hearing them roll out the same old rhetoric. I cringe every time I hear Jonesy, DB, or Hilferty talking about bringing back the past. Forget the freaking past already. How about just building a good team today?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 10:48 AM ET
when is TK eligible to sign an extension....
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 19 @ 10:51 AM ET
Zamula really earned the night off with his poor performance on Tuesday, and it would be unfair to get in the way of Seeler and Staal's quest to play 82 games. Yet another great call from Coach Tortorella.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Oct 19 @ 10:53 AM ET
always bringing up cates when it comes to frost. I love it.
- hello it's me 2050


Always pretending not to be blackjackmulligan on HFB is really weird. Everyone knows it's you, dude.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Oct 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
Zamula really earned the night off with his poor performance on Tuesday, and it would be unfair to get in the way of Seeler and Staal's quest to play 82 games. Yet another great call from Coach Tortorella.
- Feanor

Lineup posted?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 11:06 AM ET
Who doesn't have their favorites? Hard to say if the Flyers would be better off today if they stayed with Hextall. Really, how much worse could they be? I feel like Hextall had the right plan in mind...just have my doubts that he was the guy to execute it successfully. It didn't take a genius to see that the Flyers needed to clear cap space and build from the draft. He struck out here and in Pittsburgh. That's pretty telling. Not sure he's going to get another chance to try.

I don't know how you can't be skeptical of the Flyers at this point. It's incredibly frustrating, to me, hearing them roll out the same old rhetoric. I cringe every time I hear Jonesy, DB, or Hilferty talking about bringing back the past. Forget the freaking past already. How about just building a good team today?

- Dkos


What I favored is the Flyers completely altering course under Hextall. Even if the execution wasn't completely there, he did a lot of good things. I supported the change to focusing on drafting and development and cleaning up the cap. Building up the prospect base. I will always support that 100%.
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