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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 11:50 AM ET
How soon before the co-GM has to intervene again? This is a complete joke.
- StepfordSam


This is very simple. Briere has to step in and set Toetorella straight. He can either play the kids or resign. Or be fired. If Briere is on board with this. He can go too! Same with Jones.

Tortorella " we're going to play the kids". 4 games into the season. How many young players have been scratched?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 11:52 AM ET
DB created the problem by bringing in Hathaway, Stahl, Poehling, and Walker
- Dkos


Poehling I have no issue with. He's a 25 year old 4th line center.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
This is very simple. Briere has to step in and set Toetorella straight. He can either play the kids or resign. Or be fired. If Briere is on board with this. He can go too! Same with Jones.

Tortorella " we're going to play the kids". 4 games into the season. How many young players have been scratched?

- MJL


Frost was scratched for a younger player though.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 19 @ 11:54 AM ET
LMAO. The same basic numbers you supplied are the ones that you've objected to. After two games, which are the only two games Frost had played. Tippett had worse numbers than Frost. Tippet's numbers went up after the Vancouver game. Which Frost did not play in. Your words that you're a "numbers" person are hollow and unsupported in reality. The very fact that you used an unbalanced sample, shows that you are not a "numbers" person
- MJL

You are trying to deflect now, because the numbers show that Frost was one of the worst performing forwards in the first two games. You can't argue with the numbers so you are just trying to discredit me again. As my accountant cousin always says, Numbers don't lie!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
This is very simple. Briere has to step in and set Toetorella straight. He can either play the kids or resign. Or be fired. If Briere is on board with this. He can go too! Same with Jones.

Tortorella " we're going to play the kids". 4 games into the season. How many young players have been scratched?

- MJL

eat a snickers bar cliff. This was all so predictable
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Oct 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
LMAO. The same basic numbers you supplied are the ones that you've objected to. After two games, which are the only two games Frost had played. Tippett had worse numbers than Frost. Tippet's numbers went up after the Vancouver game. Which Frost did not play in. Your words that you're a "numbers" person are hollow and unsupported in reality. The very fact that you used an unbalanced sample, shows that you are not a "numbers" person
- MJL

You are trying to deflect now, because the numbers show that Frost was one of the worst performing forwards in the first two games. You can't argue with the numbers so you are just trying to discredit me again. As my accountant cousin always says, Numbers don't lie!
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
No issues with th RP signing
- Peter Richards


just saying DB made it easier for Torts to sit young players
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 19 @ 12:06 PM ET
this site is more broken than the Flyers
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 19 @ 12:14 PM ET
just saying DB made it easier for Torts to sit young players
- Dkos


Don’t disagree. Another reason why I wanted them to trade players like seeler last year.

Staal was a safety signing imo. As they weren’t sure about the kids I’m guessing. Agree with others that 3 d men won’t get traded, but hope at least two go this year. Andrae should be getting minutes in the a if not playing. Right now seeler or walker should be sitting. Don’t think they will sit staal.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
when is TK eligible to sign an extension....
- hello it's me 2050



As soon as his final year kicks in I believe. So sometime in July?
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Oct 19 @ 12:31 PM ET
What do you guys know about this silayev kid from Russia?
He looks like a future top pair Dman to me.
There are some stud D coming out of this upcoming draft
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 12:41 PM ET
Don’t disagree. Another reason why I wanted them to trade players like seeler last year.

Staal was a safety signing imo. As they weren’t sure about the kids I’m guessing. Agree with others that 3 d men won’t get traded, but hope at least two go this year. Andrae should be getting minutes in the a if not playing. Right now seeler or walker should be sitting. Don’t think they will sit staal.

- Peter Richards

when your rebuilsing you dont need to be sure. you find out
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
What do you guys know about this silayev kid from Russia?
He looks like a future top pair Dman to me.
There are some stud D coming out of this upcoming draft

- Bob Habib



He is a monster, 6'7" who has elite skating ability. Good defender but not overly physical. Definite top 10 with top 5 potential.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
You are trying to deflect now, because the numbers show that Frost was one of the worst performing forwards in the first two games. You can't argue with the numbers so you are just trying to discredit me again. As my accountant cousin always says, Numbers don't lie!
- jd250


https://www.naturalstattr...eason=20232024&game=20011

https://www.naturalstattr...eason=20232024&game=20019

if you are just looking at pure metrics, tip had a better game one than frost, frost had a better game two.

WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Oct 19 @ 12:53 PM ET
This is very simple. Briere has to step in and set Toetorella straight. He can either play the kids or resign. Or be fired. If Briere is on board with this. He can go too! Same with Jones.

Tortorella " we're going to play the kids". 4 games into the season. How many young players have been scratched?

- MJL


Charlie O doesn't expect Frost to sit more than 2 games
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
What do you guys know about this silayev kid from Russia?
He looks like a future top pair Dman to me.
There are some stud D coming out of this upcoming draft

- Bob Habib


d is where we will need to focus.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 12:54 PM ET
As soon as his final year kicks in I believe. So sometime in July?
- MBFlyerfan

was hoping it was January for some reason. hope he keeps putting up points and gets his 8 year deal with the flyers
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Oct 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
This is very simple. Briere has to step in and set Toetorella straight. He can either play the kids or resign. Or be fired. If Briere is on board with this. He can go too! Same with Jones.

Tortorella " we're going to play the kids". 4 games into the season. How many young players have been scratched?

- MJL

is there anything telling they are not on board with what the coach/co-gm1 wants?
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
So same old same old for the Flyers? Cool. I am not watching a full season of this.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
You are trying to deflect now, because the numbers show that Frost was one of the worst performing forwards in the first two games. You can't argue with the numbers so you are just trying to discredit me again. As my accountant cousin always says, Numbers don't lie!
- jd250


Again, hysterical. I have not once denied what the numbers state or that Frost did not play well in the first two games. What discredits you is how you blow off the same numbers when there were discussions on other players such as Sanheim. Who you stated can't defend when he had the best defensive number last season. Or with Ristolainen when you claim that he is the best defenseman on the team. When the numbers were shown to you, you tell people they need to watch the game. Now it's numbers don't lie. Can't make it up. I don't discredit you. You discredit yourself.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 19 @ 1:12 PM ET
Bill, is there a place we can leave our opinion and DB and the Flyers brass will actually know it is there?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Bill, is there a place we can leave our opinion and DB and the Flyers brass will actually know it is there?
- wcorvette


Yes, with the TV ratings and home game attendance.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Oct 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
https://thehockeywriters....ing-bias-decision-making/

So others see what many of us see?
Always a head scratcher
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Oct 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
Yes, with the TV ratings and home game attendance.
- MJL


I go to two games a year and I have watched 3 of 9 total periods this season. I also forgot the game on Saturday was an afternoon game.

I have watched more of the Senators and Oilers this season than the Flyers.

I am doing my part.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
https://thehockeywriters.com/flyers-tortorella-showing-bias-decision-making/

So others see what many of us see?
Always a head scratcher

- mikeyo27


Tortorella needs to go!
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