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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 31 @ 10:37 AM ET
I actually agree with this. Give them more rest and allow them to grow a bit physically during the season. The ducks are doing this with Leo Carlsson and I think it makes a lot of sense.
- dothedougie

Makes even more sense for a team like Boston that expects to make the playoffs. Give the kid a chance to be as physically ready for the playoffs as possible. Otherwise come playoffs he’s the kind of guy that sits so a deadline acquisition like Hathaway can play.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Oct 31 @ 10:40 AM ET
Makes even more sense for a team like Boston that expects to make the playoffs. Give the kid a chance to be as physically ready for the playoffs as possible. Otherwise come playoffs he’s the kind of guy that sits so a deadline acquisition like Hathaway can play.
- Feds91Stammer



I mean its a fair point. Pretty sure this is exactly what happened with Seguin during the run in 2011. He only appeared in 13 playoff games and was a scratched the rest of the time. With all of the depth that the bruins have it would be a great idea to work rest into the young kids' schedule.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
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Oct 31 @ 10:44 AM ET
I mean its a fair point. Pretty sure this is exactly what happened with Seguin during the run in 2011. He only appeared in 13 playoff games and was a scratched the rest of the time. With all of the depth that the bruins have it would be a great idea to work rest into the young kids' schedule.
- dothedougie

Ahh yes 2011. I was at the game 4 comeback Tampa had in the conference finals.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Oct 31 @ 10:56 AM ET
Ahh yes 2011. I was at the game 4 comeback Tampa had in the conference finals.
- Feds91Stammer



I am fortunate enough have gotten to attend the round 1 game 5 against Montreal where Boston won 2-1 in 2OT. I miss that rivalry a lot. It is severely diminished today.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 31 @ 10:59 AM ET
I am fortunate enough have gotten to attend the round 1 game 5 against Montreal where Boston won 2-1 in 2OT. I miss that rivalry a lot. It is severely diminished today.
- dothedougie


100% personal preference take: The league is just better when Montreal is in the mix. The same goes for Detroit and Philly. These teams have been junk for far too long.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Oct 31 @ 11:05 AM ET
100% personal preference take: The league is just better when Montreal is in the mix. The same goes for Detroit and Philly. These teams have been junk for far too long.
- glove_was_stuck



I would have to agree. I miss some of the matchups from about a decade ago. Made for bruising and chippy post season play. I love when two teams are at each other's throats for a full 7 games.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:13 AM ET
I am fortunate enough have gotten to attend the round 1 game 5 against Montreal where Boston won 2-1 in 2OT. I miss that rivalry a lot. It is severely diminished today.
- dothedougie

I had tickets for the game 7 cup between the hawks and lightning that never happened. (frank)ing lame ass Chicago ruins everything.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 31 @ 11:14 AM ET
100% personal preference take: The league is just better when Montreal is in the mix. The same goes for Detroit and Philly. These teams have been junk for far too long.
- glove_was_stuck

Yeah but (frank) Philly.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 31 @ 11:32 AM ET
Yeah but (frank) Philly.
- Feds91Stammer



dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Oct 31 @ 12:48 PM ET
Its official, Poitras is sticking around. Great decision.

https://www.msn.com/en-us...023-24-season/ar-AA1j9T5b


EDIT: I know this doesn't guarantee he stays the entire year, but Im happy he has earned the confidence of Monty and management. Hopefully he can keep it rolling.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 31 @ 1:28 PM ET
Saw a replay. What a stupid selfish penalty.

3-5 games would hopefully send a message.

- Nasty_Duck


Yeah that was an awful hit. Nothing about that was accidental

I tend to agree that he’ll get 3-5, but that doesn’t send a message. 10-12 games is what he should be given

At some point they’ve gotta throw precedent out the window and start from scratch. These punishments aren’t severe enough, clearly
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Oct 31 @ 2:05 PM ET
Yeah that was an awful hit. Nothing about that was accidental

I tend to agree that he’ll get 3-5, but that doesn’t send a message. 10-12 games is what he should be given

At some point they’ve gotta throw precedent out the window and start from scratch. These punishments aren’t severe enough, clearly

- AxlRose91


Whoa. Disagree on that one. Bit heavy handed.

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 31 @ 2:12 PM ET
Yeah that was an awful hit. Nothing about that was accidental

I tend to agree that he’ll get 3-5, but that doesn’t send a message. 10-12 games is what he should be given

At some point they’ve gotta throw precedent out the window and start from scratch. These punishments aren’t severe enough, clearly

- AxlRose91

Could just force him to play in a poophole like Winnipeg. That would be the most severe punishment.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 31 @ 2:35 PM ET
Whoa. Disagree on that one. Bit heavy handed.
- glove_was_stuck


Is it though?

I would argue that it only feels heavy-handed because of the precedent that’s been set by a league that claims to care about player safety but clearly does not

One or two more of those types of hits and Ekman-Larsson’s career is over
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
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Oct 31 @ 3:41 PM ET
Is it though?

I would argue that it only feels heavy-handed because of the precedent that’s been set by a league that claims to care about player safety but clearly does not

One or two more of those types of hits and Ekman-Larsson’s career is over

- AxlRose91


What is the extent of OEL's injury? Has that been determined yet?
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Oct 31 @ 3:50 PM ET
Is it though?

I would argue that it only feels heavy-handed because of the precedent that’s been set by a league that claims to care about player safety but clearly does not

One or two more of those types of hits and Ekman-Larsson’s career is over

- AxlRose91



The discipline has been inconsistent at best when it comes to dirty play and head shots, I can agree that much.

I think there needs to be a deep dive into two areas of supplemental discipline in the NHL:

1) intent (can be difficult sometimes but more camera angles might be able to prove whether it was premeditated or unintentional)

2) Repeat offences.


In the case of #1, premeditated intent to injure should be punished much more severely. In the case of McAvoy, im pretty sure what he did was intentional, and I would be ok with sending a message to him. Give him 10 games. Hurts my team and will suck, but I think premeditated acts like that deserve to be punished more severely.

Unintentional contact could see somewhere between 1-5 games just for careless play. Again, tough call and there needs to be a lot of people looking at this.

Repeat offenders need to seriously be sent a message. If its a second, or third offense, the suspensions should have a compounding effect. Ill give an example of what I'm thinking for the sake of conversation:

Player x was suspended 10 games for an intentional hit to the head or hit from behind at the beginning of the season. Somewhere in the middle of the season, they are suspended again for ANOTHER INTENTIIONAL hit to the head. Take the first suspension and double it. Second suspension could be 20 games or more.

Unintentional injury but second suspension could result in a repeat of the first suspension which is another 10 games.

Once we pass #2, regardless of intent, we need to start talking about significant percentages of the season. I think Third time offenders in an 82 game period or something equivalent to a season should see something equivalent to what Pinto suspension. Half the season (41 games). No appeal.

Past 3, we really need to talk about the player. Do they belong in the league? I start talking about entire season bans, or contract termination and fining clubs for employing said player. Send a message organization wide that this crap isnt going to be tolerated.

Also supplemental discipline should be independent of revenue. In other words, doesnt matter who does it, the same rules should apply whether they are a grinder or a superstar.

Im sure I pushed a few buttons there, but those are just thoughts. Have fun.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 31 @ 6:49 PM ET
So McAvoy got 4 games - right in the middle of the 3-5 I mentioned earlier.

Deserved at least that much so certainly no complaints.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Oct 31 @ 6:58 PM ET
So McAvoy got 4 games - right in the middle of the 3-5 I mentioned earlier.

Deserved at least that much so certainly no complaints.

- Nasty_Duck

Yep. You’re the smartest guy here. Good job buddy.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
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Joined: 10.24.2013

Oct 31 @ 9:04 PM ET
So McAvoy got 4 games - right in the middle of the 3-5 I mentioned earlier.

Deserved at least that much so certainly no complaints.

- Nasty_Duck


It's fairish. Maybe this will kick Lindholm into gear now that he will likely slot as the #1.
Nasty_Duck
Boston Bruins
Location: ON
Joined: 06.20.2012

Oct 31 @ 9:24 PM ET
Yep. You’re the smartest guy here. Good job buddy.
- Feds91Stammer


That was uncalled for.


bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 31 @ 9:30 PM ET
It's fairish. Maybe this will kick Lindholm into gear now that he will likely slot as the #1.
- dothedougie

bluemoon737
Boston Bruins
Location: Portsmouth, NH
Joined: 04.19.2019

Oct 31 @ 9:33 PM ET
That was uncalled for.



- Nasty_Duck

Ummm, was it?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Nov 1 @ 9:14 AM ET
That was uncalled for.



- Nasty_Duck

It was a headshot and I am a repeat offender so I guess I will see you in a few weeks.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Nov 1 @ 9:49 AM ET
It was a headshot and I am a repeat offender so I guess I will see you in a few weeks.
- Feds91Stammer



Thats 20 games minimum dude. GTFO
ProvBrewin
Boston Bruins
Location: Providence, RI
Joined: 08.23.2014

Nov 1 @ 10:41 AM ET
It's fairish. Maybe this will kick Lindholm into gear now that he will likely slot as the #1.
- dothedougie


This could be the silver lining. Lindholm, while having a tough go at it to start this year, really stepped up in McAvoy's absence to start last season, and proved himself to be a solid 1D for the duration of the injury. This is the perfect opportunity for him to clean it up and return to form.
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