A lot of people assume that new gear will improve what players did in the past, remember their technique is based on the equipment they used. Sure, some would adjust and improve, but many others would probably get worse.
Not sure if you play hockey, but if you do knowing something as simple as new gloves can take a period of time to adjust to. - Glak18
Highly doubt any would get worse. And these guys aren’t grabbing stock gloves from pro hockey and jumping into a game. The game style is much more different today than it was then.
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Nov 3 @ 5:00 PM ET
Highly doubt any would get worse. And these guys aren’t grabbing stock gloves from pro hockey and jumping into a game. The game style is much more different today than it was then. - ClaudeFather
I always thought the same way, put Crosby back in the past and he would light it up...maybe, but he wouldn't have all the conveniences he knows, is he really the same player using old gear?
Again always thought players really are getting better and better nowadays, are they though? All the fancy plays they can make and how they shoot, would love to see Matthews release and shot with a wooden stick. The Michigan style goal...such creativity now, have you tried doing that with a wooden stick? Actually I was at the rink last year talking to an older guy, still uses somewhat old gear. We were talking and he said "Wow, the things these kids can do now!". I asked if he ever tried using a new composite stick with flex, obviously said no. I gave him one to use and showed him how to pick up the puck. It took him some practice, but within a hour he was able to pick it up and fling it around a few times. No one thought about the things being done because it wasn't really as possible as it is today.
It's no different than computers nowadays. The progress to make it easier and easier has been done, there is no reason anyone should have issues doing it. The new generations think they are evolving everything when the fact is the generations before have made everything easier for them.
I always thought the same way, put Crosby back in the past and he would light it up...maybe, but he wouldn't have all the conveniences he knows, is he really the same player using old gear?
Again always thought players really are getting better and better nowadays, are they though? All the fancy plays they can make and how they shoot, would love to see Matthews release and shot with a wooden stick. The Michigan style goal...such creativity now, have you tried doing that with a wooden stick? Actually I was at the rink last year talking to an older guy, still uses somewhat old gear. We were talking and he said "Wow, the things these kids can do now!". I asked if he ever tried using a new composite stick with flex, obviously said no. I gave him one to use and showed him how to pick up the puck. It took him some practice, but within a hour he was able to pick it up and fling it around a few times. No one thought about the things being done because it wasn't really as possible as it is today.
It's no different than computers nowadays. The progress to make it easier and easier has been done, there is no reason anyone should have issues doing it. The new generations think they are evolving everything when the fact is the generations before have made everything easier for them. - Glak18
If you tried a Michigan in the early 90s you would be two handed in the mouth, doesn’t matter the gear. Crosby would still 100% be the best player on the ice, wooden stick or not. You do know Crosby probably grew up with wood, went to two piece, then composite right? Hell, he had a two piece I believe at shattuck. He was still the best guy. Would players have to adjust their game, yea, but they wouldn’t be bad because of gear.
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Nov 3 @ 5:25 PM ET
If you tried a Michigan in the early 90s you would be two handed in the mouth, doesn’t matter the gear. Crosby would still 100% be the best player on the ice, wooden stick or not. You do know Crosby probably grew up with wood, went to two piece, then composite right? Hell, he had a two piece I believe at shattuck. He was still the best guy. Would players have to adjust their game, yea, but they wouldn’t be bad because of gear. - ClaudeFather
The point went right over your head. The mentality of it didn't fit where you wanted then assuming is a terrible habit. Not once did I say players today would all be bad, players are able to do MORE because of that progress in equipment technology. Mentioning goaltending equipment is just too easy. I'm not saying older players are better or worse, but I just don't believe the players abilities are that drastically off.
I also laughed how you avoided the Michigan by going right to the way the game style changed. I wasn't even referring to game situations, just talking about executing it even in practice.
FYI: This whole conversation started because someone mentioning Al Iafrate could have a better shot with a new stick and it wouldn't be guaranteed based off of technique. Different types of sticks have different impact points that changes how you shoot. If it didn't matter then everyone could be shown how to cross over correctly and how to use their edges then everyone would skate like McDavid.
A lot of people assume that new gear will improve what players did in the past, remember their technique is based on the equipment they used. Sure, some would adjust and improve, but many others would probably get worse.
Not sure if you play hockey, but if you do knowing something as simple as new gloves can take a period of time to adjust to. - Glak18
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Nov 3 @ 5:34 PM ET
If you tried a Michigan in the early 90s you would be two handed in the mouth, doesn’t matter the gear. Crosby would still 100% be the best player on the ice, wooden stick or not. You do know Crosby probably grew up with wood, went to two piece, then composite right? Hell, he had a two piece I believe at shattuck. He was still the best guy. Would players have to adjust their game, yea, but they wouldn’t be bad because of gear. - ClaudeFather
The point went right over your head. The mentality of it didn't fit where you wanted then assuming is a terrible habit. Not once did I say players today would all be bad, players are able to do MORE because of that progress in equipment technology. Mentioning goaltending equipment is just too easy. I'm not saying older players are better or worse, but I just don't believe the players abilities are that drastically off.
I also laughed how you avoided the Michigan by going right to the way the game style changed. I wasn't even referring to game situations, just talking about executing it even in practice.
FYI: This whole conversation started because someone mentioning Al Iafrate could have a better shot with a new stick and it wouldn't be guaranteed based off of technique. Different types of sticks have different impact points that changes how you shoot. If it didn't matter then everyone could be shown how to cross over correctly and how to use their edges then everyone would skate like McDavid. - Glak18
I brought up the style was different before you mentioned the Michigan there champ.
Al Iafrate with the Caps late 80s. Me and my buddy had seats in the 3rd level behind net. After warm ups, Al's still out there and winds up and unleashes a slapper from just inside the blue line. Damn thing hits the cross bar and travels onto 3rd level. Granted, 3rd much lower at old Spectrum but it was still impressive.
What does style have to do with being able to perform a Michigan at all? Oh you really think it was never done because they didn't want to get hit.... - Glak18
Do you know what year the michigan was invented. Lmao
Per Jeff Neiburg, who is in Buffalo to cover the game for the Inquirer, tonight's starting lineup is:
74 Owen Tippett- 27 Noah Cates - 89 Cam Atkinson
86 Joel Farabee - 21 Scott Laughton - 10 Bobby Brink
11 Travis Konecny - 48 Morgan Frost - 71 Tyson Foerster
44 Nic Deslauriers- 25 Ryan Poehling- Garnet Hathaway
8 Cam York - 6 Travis Sanheim
24 Nick Seeler- 26 Sean Walker
5 Egor Zamula - 37 Louie Belpedio
33 Samuel Ersson
- bmeltzer[40 Cal Petersen]
Back in 2017-18 the Wild brought up Belpedio late in the year to rest regulars and he appeared in his only game in the organization.
Seeler was a grinder on his college team. Never expected to be in the NHL. Six years later and they have a place in the lineup. Amazing. You gotta give them credit for perseverance.
