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Just created this to give further context to what you're point out:
https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/4682441
(I potentially estimated slightly high on all the signings, but not by much) - kingcong39
I threw it in a spreadsheet and mine looks almost identical. Saved a few $ cutting Girgs and Jost.
Let Greenway walk the following year + bridge everyone to barely get under the cap again.
It's manageable, but a lot tighter than it seems.
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kingcong39
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You can save the money by not re-signing 3 extras. - DirtyDan
You're rolling with an NHL roster minimum of 20, with no backups at forward or defense?
One of the extras is Savoie... |
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I don't see how that's possible. If you extend Mitts + Joker, even bridging them is going to get tough....if they play up to expectations. - Lunaion
Going to have to be more aggressive in those negotiations for sure, but even with the cap going up, not enough? How many of those 4 do you expect to lose? |
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kingcong39
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kingcong39
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I threw it in a spreadsheet and mine looks almost identical. Saved a few $ cutting Girgs and Jost.
Let Greenway walk the following year + bridge everyone to barely get under the cap again.
It's manageable, but a lot tighter than it seems. - Lunaion
Much easier using CapFriendly's Armchair GM then a spreadsheet.
I also have a difficult time believing the cap limit is going from $83.5M in 24-25 to $92M in 25-26. |
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Going to have to be more aggressive in those negotiations for sure, but even with the cap going up, not enough? How many of those 4 do you expect to lose? - QuinnFan
Wouldn't say I expect them to lose any, just think it results in more bridge deals.
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Boss34
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Mitts is probably closer to 7-8 than 6 IMO. If he keeps the pace obviously. Give him the Cozens/Tage contract. - DirtyDan
This sounds about right
7 x 7 ror type money possibly |
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Much easier using CapFriendly's Armchair GM then a spreadsheet.
I also have a difficult time believing the cap limit is going from $83.5M in 24-25 to $92M in 25-26. - kingcong39
Spreadhseet doesn't take any time and it's easier to take it out to year 2.
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kingcong39
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Spreadhseet doesn't take any time and it's easier to take it out to year 2. - Lunaion
When you're home and out of work caring for a newborn, using CapFriendly is easier 😆
As for the part about taking things out to year 2:
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homiedclown
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You're rolling with an NHL roster minimum of 20, with no backups at forward or defense?
One of the extras is Savoie... - kingcong39
and no kulich or rosen |
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homiedclown
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This sounds about right
7 x 7 ror type money possibly - Boss34
that was 8 years ago
7 then is 9 now |
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Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY Joined: 10.07.2010
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Just because he says some goofy poop doesn't mean he coaches like Ralph (frank)ing Krueger. Holy poop.
I don't see why it's a crime to handle Levi how he's been handled.
He's a rookie, this is how they handle rookies. They don't play them hard. Why is this a bad thing. - TheSabresTaco
Show me a coach that doesn't speak in cliches. Granted it's way worse in the NFL, probably just because you're more exposed to it come to think of it. But the NHL isn't far behind |
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This sounds about right
7 x 7 ror type money possibly - Boss34
RoR's 7.5m deal is 9.2m as next year's cap %.
If he puts up 60+ points as a C, his comps are quite a bit higher than 7m.
Vibes check. Dahlin and Power didn't give him any kind of discount, will he?
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kingcong39
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RoR's 7.5m deal is 9.2m as next year's cap %.
If he puts up 60+ points as a C, his comps are quite a bit higher than 7m.
Vibes check. Dahlin and Power didn't give him any kind of discount, will he? - Lunaion
$7M might be the discount... |
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QuinnFan
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https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4682441 - kingcong39
Looks to me like we'd be fine based on this. RyJo, Rousek and Savoie will be cheap. Levi, Quinn and Peterka should come in around $13-15m. What am I missing? |
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DirtyDan
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Much easier using CapFriendly's Armchair GM then a spreadsheet.
I also have a difficult time believing the cap limit is going from $83.5M in 24-25 to $92M in 25-26. - kingcong39
83.5m this year. 87.5m in 24-25. 92m in 25-26. If Capfrindly is correct. |
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QuinnFan
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Wouldn't say I expect them to lose any, just think it results in more bridge deals. - Lunaion
That's what I was thinking, particularly for Quinn and Petey...Levi they may want to just lock up if he develops. It's a couple years after that, depending on cap increases, where things get tight. Looks like none of the models I'm finding project beyond the 92M cap hit for next season. |
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Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY Joined: 10.07.2010
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Much easier using CapFriendly's Armchair GM then a spreadsheet.
I also have a difficult time believing the cap limit is going from $83.5M in 24-25 to $92M in 25-26. - kingcong39
It might be $92M in 28-29, but you're right, they'll never have that big of an increase. They'll find a way to fück with the numbers.
I wonder if there's a mechanism to stop huge increases like that. They obviously have the escalator, but that's for raising it more than it ordinarily would. |
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homiedclown
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$7M might be the discount... - kingcong39
8 mil is a discount
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83.5m this year. 87.5m in 24-25. 92m in 25-26. If Capfrindly is correct. - DirtyDan
They are just estimates and I believe they have a history of consistently coming in below them.
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Wetbandit1
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They are just estimates and I believe they have a history of consistently coming in below them. - Lunaion
Yeah, it was supposed to be a big increase this year, too, but, oh, look at that, escrow still hasn't been paid off. |
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DirtyDan
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They are just estimates and I believe they have a history of consistently coming in below them. - Lunaion
Wasnt this due to the escrow?
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DirtyDan
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Yeah, it was supposed to be a big increase this year, too, but, oh, look at that, escrow still hasn't been paid off. - Wetbandit1
Hopefully Bettman told some truths that it will be paid off this season
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Boss34
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that was 8 years ago
7 then is 9 now - homiedclown
7 when I posted it , is still 7 million
A ror contract , 7 years later
* I didn’t take into account % of salary cap like Lun pointed out |
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That's what I was thinking, particularly for Quinn and Petey...Levi they may want to just lock up if he develops. It's a couple years after that, depending on cap increases, where things get tight. Looks like none of the models I'm finding project beyond the 92M cap hit for next season. - QuinnFan
If you want to go out further, you have to discuss Tuch and Skinner.
All these committments, 0 playoff games. Hope they don't over do it. Even if it all works well, have to leave enough flexibility to handle a prospect taking off.
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