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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 5 @ 3:13 PM ET
can the presence of a particular player on the ice really affect the expected goal % of others to that extent? looks like a rather curious calculation, although I'm no advanced stats expert lol.

the worst part is that Andy did get numerous high quality scoring chances, it just never goes in.

- Pat1993


Well if one player on the ice doesn't do his job defensively, makes the wrong plays, isn't cycling the puck in the offensive zone, etc. Yeah, it does affect the whole line.

Of course it's a 10 or less game sample, but it shows how much he has struggled when players underlying stats improve when he's off the ice.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 5 @ 3:15 PM ET
tks Karine!
so they played well when it wasn't expected (in Vegas) and did poorly when facing teams coming off a back to back (PHX and STL).
oh well, these things will happen. young team. no problemo.
stay healthy, play the kids. be patient. that goes for goalies too!
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Nov 5 @ 3:15 PM ET
bah, at least he can still be useful from time to time and helps generate momentum, as opposed to a guy like Reaves...
- Pat1993

Well, when you consider the price tag of both and the ice time of both and then look at the results for themselves along with their teams you realize both teams have a Ryan reaves
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:16 PM ET
Well, when you consider the price tag of both and the ice time of both and then look at the results for themselves along with their teams you realize both teams have a Ryan reaves
- mr.peanut


nah, I'm still gonna take the guy who can skate and sometimes contribute offensively, which is not Reaves lol.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:17 PM ET
tks Karine!
so they played well when it wasn't expected (in Vegas) and did poorly when facing teams coming off a back to back (PHX and STL).
oh well, these things will happen. young team. no problemo.
stay healthy, play the kids. be patient. that goes for goalies too!

- fidopro



woah, sounds like you were shopping at the SQDC today...
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Nov 5 @ 3:18 PM ET
nah, I'm still gonna take the guy who can skate and sometimes contribute offensively, which is not Reaves lol.
- Pat1993

Just not this year, so far

#JoshAndereaves

Let's get it trending, america
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:20 PM ET
Just not this year, so far

#JoshAndereaves

Let's get it trending, america

- mr.peanut


oy vey.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Nov 5 @ 3:21 PM ET
oy vey.
- Pat1993

Anyway, we all know he starts scoring every time I poop on him
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Nov 5 @ 3:21 PM ET
Just not this year, so far

#JoshAndereaves

Let's get it trending, america

- mr.peanut

we're busy with the nfl right now. hit us up in like 7.5 hours.
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Nov 5 @ 3:22 PM ET
we're busy with the nfl right now. hit us up in like 7.5 hours.
- kicksave856

No it's urgent
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:23 PM ET
Anyway, we all know he starts scoring every time I poop on him
- mr.peanut



Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Nov 5 @ 3:23 PM ET
Just not this year, so far

#JoshAndereaves

Let's get it trending, america

- mr.peanut



Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:25 PM ET
we're busy with the nfl right now. hit us up in like 7.5 hours.
- kicksave856


silly 'Murican, it sure seems like you forgot to mention the Alouettes going to the CFL final, which is obviously where the real manly football is at.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Nov 5 @ 3:28 PM ET
No it's urgent
- mr.peanut

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Nov 5 @ 3:31 PM ET
coach!

https://www.rds.ca/hockey...ohnny-gaudreau-1.17478154
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 3:36 PM ET
coach!

https://www.rds.ca/hockey...ohnny-gaudreau-1.17478154

- fidopro


yeah, Gaudreau got benched and they lost the game. so awesome.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 5 @ 4:06 PM ET
coach!

https://www.rds.ca/hockey...ohnny-gaudreau-1.17478154

- fidopro

Are we sure Babschlong isn't just wearing a Scooby Doo style mask of Pascal Vincent?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:09 PM ET
Habs buy yet?
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:14 PM ET
Are we sure Babschlong isn't just wearing a Scooby Doo style mask of Pascal Vincent?
- AdamFrench


just need to check his pockets to confirm, all the players' cell phones should be there...
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Nov 5 @ 4:20 PM ET
just need to check his pockets to confirm, all the players' cell phones should be there...
- Pat1993

Turns out you can check player's phones as long as it's to see if they've been gambling
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:24 PM ET
Turns out you can check player's phones as long as it's to see if they've been gambling
- mr.peanut


still don't get that whole thing, as long as they aren't betting on NHL games, who cares if millionaires are placing bets in other sports and/or leagues?

plus there's the obvious hypocrisy from the NHL of having sponsorships and business deals with gambling services such as BET 99.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
still don't get that whole thing, as long as they aren't betting on NHL games, who cares if millionaires are placing bets in other sports and/or leagues?

plus there's the obvious hypocrisy from the NHL of having sponsorships and business deals with gambling services such as BET 99.

- Pat1993


While it was not fully explained, it had something to do with a 3rd party making bets using his account or something like that.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Nov 5 @ 4:29 PM ET
While it was not fully explained, it had something to do with a 3rd party making bets using his account or something like that.
- Mashadar


ohh right, guys are allowed to bet but can't use a bookie... still don't get the big deal, unless that is against state laws or something.

besides Pinto should be dishing out headshots instead of gambling, it wouldn't have cost him 41 games to give a concussion to an opponent.
Gramps28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Double poop your best players everyone!, IL
Joined: 07.09.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
ohh right, guys are allowed to bet but can't use a bookie... still don't get the big deal, unless that is against state laws or something.

besides Pinto should be dishing out headshots instead of gambling, it wouldn't have cost him 41 games to give a concussion to an opponent.

- Pat1993


i disagree. the (frank) uses a bookie these days. degenerate gamblers. that's who. and also the obvious optics of throwing games cause he is in large to a bookie comes into play.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Nov 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
ohh right, guys are allowed to bet but can't use a bookie... still don't get the big deal, unless that is against state laws or something.

besides Pinto should be dishing out headshots instead of gambling, it wouldn't have cost him 41 games to give a concussion to an opponent.

- Pat1993


*sigh* that is not what I said.

Whatever....
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