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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 13 @ 11:54 AM ET
It’s not our biggest issue. It almost feels like you’re arguing upgrading the 4th line should never be a concern because they shouldn’t be required to do much though. But if your fourth line being the worst in the league isn’t enough to make a change, what is?
- picklerick

I’m not arguing anything lol I’m just saying that because they’re (Bonino and Goodrow) so adept at penalty killing, I don’t see them as a problem at all. And what they do 5 on 5 is kind of gravy imo.

They’re plus 1 between them, as long as they don’t give up goals I really don’t mind them. I’d rather have a great PK (which we do) over a great 4th line

Hate them idgaf haha 😂
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
Goodrow contract becoming an issue bc 4th liners making $800k are the easiest positions to fill in a hard cap league. Rangers need a RW to play with kreider/zib. Wheeler should be in the press box. And kakko is playing his way out of town if he does not get his poop together
- nyrangers2

We can talk about goodrow til we’re blue in the face but he isn’t going anywhere 🤷🏻‍♂️maybe they’ll buy him out but I think they would’ve done that already.

Wheeler has definitely been better the last week or so. Really since the Winnipeg game he’s been more noticeable

Kakko idk man. I’m afraid to trade him but I’m afraid to watch him at the same time lol he’s doing nothing out there, absolutely nothing
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
I’m not arguing anything lol I’m just saying that because they’re (Bonino and Goodrow) so adept at penalty killing, I don’t see them as a problem at all. And what they do 5 on 5 is kind of gravy imo.

They’re plus 1 between them, as long as they don’t give up goals I really don’t mind them. I’d rather have a great PK (which we do) over a great 4th line

Hate them idgaf haha 😂

- Slimtj100


I don’t hate any of them individually, but Panarin can’t play 28 min a night. Laf played 24, trocheck, 26, zib 23, kreider 21. Gotta be able to rely on your 4th line a LITTLE more than that
Greschnergy#4
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 12.10.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:00 PM ET
Fox and Gustafsson could be similar to Leetch and Zubov- let's not fuck it up this time.
Awolff9
New York Rangers
Joined: 02.05.2020

Nov 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
We can talk about goodrow til we’re blue in the face but he isn’t going anywhere 🤷🏻‍♂️maybe they’ll buy him out but I think they would’ve done that already.
- Slimtj100


Anyone down for a Zucc reunion if the Wild start to fade? I know he carries a 6mill contract with one more year left. Not sure how we could fit his cap in but maybe something to explore
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
Fox and Gustafsson could be similar to Leetch and Zubov- let's not fuck it up this time.
- Greschnergy#4

that man is going to be RICH rich in a year.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
Anyone down for a Zucc reunion if the Wild start to fade? I know he carries a 6mill contract with one more year left. Not sure how we could fit his cap in but maybe something to explore
- Awolff9


It’s Buch or bust. Once STL fades.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Nov 13 @ 12:08 PM ET
Anyone down for a Zucc reunion if the Wild start to fade? I know he carries a 6mill contract with one more year left. Not sure how we could fit his cap in but maybe something to explore
- Awolff9

nope
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 13 @ 12:08 PM ET
Anyone down for a Zucc reunion if the Wild start to fade? I know he carries a 6mill contract with one more year left. Not sure how we could fit his cap in but maybe something to explore
- Awolff9


he just signed an extension, actually two more years left

no, he's gonna retire there
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 13 @ 12:11 PM ET
I don’t hate any of them individually, but Panarin can’t play 28 min a night. Laf played 24, trocheck, 26, zib 23, kreider 21. Gotta be able to rely on your 4th line a LITTLE more than that
- picklerick

To me last nights line rolling was more of they have 5 days off now and let the big boys play til they pass out. They needed a goal and finally got it. Normally I agree with you tho.

I think you want the perfect team which is fine I do too. Bonino is type of guy that will score a playoff OT goal and we’ll forget how bad he is 5 on 5. I’m trying to give Kakko a pass playing with him, it’s hard tho
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 13 @ 12:13 PM ET
I don’t hate any of them individually, but Panarin can’t play 28 min a night. Laf played 24, trocheck, 26, zib 23, kreider 21. Gotta be able to rely on your 4th line a LITTLE more than that
- picklerick
Last night's numbers seem to be a bit of an outlier but certainly not something they would like to see trending. No forward averages more than 20 minutes a night.

To that end, I agree a more effective 4th line helps prevent TIO's from going up however an addition to one area may take away from another. That is why Laviolette is getting paid by the organization and not us.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:15 PM ET
Last night's numbers seem to be a bit of an outlier but certainly not something they would like to see trending. No forward averages more than 20 minutes a night.

To that end, I agree a more effective 4th line helps prevent TIO's from going up however an addition to one area may take away from another. That is why Laviolette is getting paid by the organization and not us.

- climbdenali12


Why pay goodrow $3.625m a year when you could pay Casey cizikas $15m over 6 years to talk poop about your own fan base
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 13 @ 12:18 PM ET
Why pay goodrow $3.625m a year when you could pay Casey cizikas $15m over 6 years to talk poop about your own fan base
- picklerick

did the Rangers have an opportunity to sign Cizikas? I don't follow.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
did the Rangers have an opportunity to sign Cizikas? I don't follow.
- climbdenali12


They’re both overpaid 4th liners. Cizikas less overpaid and a member of the rival islanders. Just got big mad at isles fans chanting to fire lane lambert. Obviously a hilarious attempt at a joke. I’ll go cry now
climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Nov 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
They’re both overpaid 4th liners. Cizikas less overpaid and a member of the rival islanders. Just got big mad at isles fans chanting to fire lane lambert. Obviously a hilarious attempt at a joke. I’ll go cry now
- picklerick

OK
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 13 @ 12:23 PM ET
They’re both overpaid 4th liners. Cizikas less overpaid and a member of the rival islanders. Just got big mad at isles fans chanting to fire lane lambert. Obviously a hilarious attempt at a joke. I’ll go cry now
- picklerick

I think teams value intangibles way more than fans do. Like locker room stuff. Specifically in Goodrows case, but I think that’s why he gets paid so much tbh. At that time they really needed someone like him around. They’ve been able to work around his contract fairly well. And again, pre pandemic signing is a factor. The cap would be hire without that nonsense hanging over the leagues head
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:24 PM ET
OK
- climbdenali12


They can’t all be winners and frankly your lack of support during this moment of failure for me is crushing
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:25 PM ET
I think teams value intangibles way more than fans do. Like locker room stuff. Specifically in Goodrows case, but I think that’s why he gets paid so much tbh. At that time they really needed someone like him around. They’ve been able to work around his contract fairly well. And again, pre pandemic signing is a factor. The cap would be hire without that nonsense hanging over the leagues head
- Slimtj100

I think Goodrow was signed post pandemic.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 13 @ 12:26 PM ET
They can’t all be winners and frankly your lack of support during this moment of failure for me is crushing
- picklerick



Boo this man.
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Nov 13 @ 12:27 PM ET
They can’t all be winners and frankly your lack of support during this moment of failure for me is crushing
- picklerick



Get off the stage.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Nov 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
I think Goodrow was signed post pandemic.
- blacksheep1

I don’t think so was he?

Maybe they’ll buy him out in the summer. Just seems like they had the perfect opportunity to do so this past summer

Edit. You’re right lol I still think they signed him for reasons we don’t agree with. Is what it is
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:28 PM ET
Get off the stage.
- JRR1285


Bibimbop mother(frank)er
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Nov 13 @ 12:30 PM ET
Bibimbop mother(frank)er
- picklerick

picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 13 @ 12:31 PM ET

- eichiefs9


You’re just mad you’re not part of our hilarious Korean food/drink inside joke and it shows
Awolff9
New York Rangers
Joined: 02.05.2020

Nov 13 @ 12:33 PM ET
he just signed an extension, actually two more years left

no, he's gonna retire there

- jimbro83


Hahahahaha wait Jimmy did we have this conversation already???
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