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picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 7 @ 9:52 AM ET
Wheeler will be the anchor on that line, literally. If you thought KK was slow, Wheeler will make KK look like a speed demon.

I dont have much hope for Wheeler to work out on the first line.

- Brukie








aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 7 @ 10:02 AM ET





- picklerick


Theres a stat sheet for everything huh.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:15 AM ET
Theres a stat sheet for everything huh.
- aecliptic


blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 10:16 AM ET
Theres a stat sheet for everything huh.
- aecliptic

NHL edge bruh.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 7 @ 10:17 AM ET
Theres a stat sheet for everything huh.
- aecliptic


I was thinking it was total bullpoop at first, going by what I remember of game speeds over the years. Took a deeper look for me to realize that the speeds I had heard in the past were actually km/h, not mph!!! I thought, "how the hell are there only 100 skaters going over 20!!!"
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Nov 7 @ 10:28 AM ET





- picklerick


So according to the chart, Panarin is worse than Goodrow and about half the players in the league.

We will soon see how well Wheeler does, Id say 5 games he is bumped down.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 7 @ 10:36 AM ET

Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
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3m
Quick tonight, per Laviolette #NYR
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:39 AM ET
So according to the chart, Panarin is worse than Goodrow and about half the players in the league.

We will soon see how well Wheeler does, Id say 5 games he is bumped down.

- Brukie


You’re reading the slowest players table backwards. Bread was slightly faster

Maybe, probably, wheeler isn’t the answer there. Kakko ain’t it either right now. And kakko is way slower by the numbers
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 10:42 AM ET
Vince Z. Mercogliano
@vzmercogliano
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3m
Quick tonight, per Laviolette #NYR

- jimbro83

That's fine for tonight. But the fact that Igor is actually hurt, woah boy.
fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Nov 7 @ 10:43 AM ET
You’re reading the slowest players table backwards. Bread was slightly faster

Maybe, probably, wheeler isn’t the answer there. Kakko ain’t it either right now. And kakko is way slower by the numbers

- picklerick


Who are we kidding.... First line RW spot is a holding place for when Kane says he's ready to go.... Kakko will get traded for a defense piece and we'll be off to the races.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Nov 7 @ 10:44 AM ET
Who are we kidding.... First line RW spot is a holding place for when Kane says he's ready to go.... Kakko will get traded for a defense piece and we'll be off to the races.
- fish_hoof


Defense piece? To replace whom?
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 10:44 AM ET
Who are we kidding.... First line RW spot is a holding place for when Kane says he's ready to go.... Kakko will get traded for a defense piece and we'll be off to the races.
- fish_hoof

They literally cannot sign Kane as they are eating into their future cap space with having Fox and Chytil on IR.
fish_hoof
New York Rangers
Joined: 05.29.2022

Nov 7 @ 10:54 AM ET
Defense piece? To replace whom?
- picklerick


Depth I am sure. We're down Fox and there's already concerns here about Schneider and Jones. I'm most likely wrong, but wouldn't be surprised to see Kakko go for a solid defensive player to make us stronger for a cup run.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 7 @ 11:02 AM ET
They literally cannot sign Kane as they are eating into their future cap space with having Fox and Chytil on IR.
- blacksheep1


Isn't Fox on LTIR? That should mean we are accumulating cap space, not eating it. At least where he is concerned.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 7 @ 11:10 AM ET
That's fine for tonight. But the fact that Igor is actually hurt, woah boy.
- blacksheep1


The extent to which hes hurt Im curious about. Honestly. Because its early in the season and were atop the Metro right now, they probably feel theres no reason to put him out there if hes dinged up or sore or pulled something. Im sure if Quick didnt have as good a start to the year as he did, sans the Wild game cause the team let the Wild skate circles around them after the first, maybe he doesnt start back to back games.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Vagabond
Joined: 06.17.2010

Nov 7 @ 11:11 AM ET
Isn't Fox on LTIR? That should mean we are accumulating cap space, not eating it. At least where he is concerned.
- Tonybere


Fox is on LTIR, Chytil is on regular IR.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 7 @ 11:22 AM ET
Fox is on LTIR, Chytil is on regular IR.
- aecliptic


Yes, I thought I conveyed that in my comment.
My point is that we are eating cap space by having Brodzinski's $762,500 and Jones' $800,000 on the books, but at the same time, we are saving way more with Fox's $9.5M off the books. It should be net positive.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Nov 7 @ 11:28 AM ET
ive been on vacation since last wednesday - what was the consensus on the aho collision w/ fox in here?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Nov 7 @ 11:29 AM ET
ive been on vacation since last wednesday - what was the consensus on the aho collision w/ fox in here?
- NYRangers1124


my belief is that it's hockey and s h i t happens sometimes
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 11:30 AM ET
Isn't Fox on LTIR? That should mean we are accumulating cap space, not eating it. At least where he is concerned.
- Tonybere

He is. But pre -LTIR they had rough 900k in cap space. They get temporary relief when Fox is on LTIR. The original balance they had gets used for domingue, Brodzinksi, and Mackey. thus taking away cap space when they had in excess. When Fox comes back, the space they had for LTIR is gone.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 7 @ 11:30 AM ET
ive been on vacation since last wednesday - what was the consensus on the aho collision w/ fox in here?
- NYRangers1124


Inexcusable, horrible reffing in game, followed by an unconscionable, willfully ignorant decision by DoPS.
...but, I may be slightly biased!!
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 7 @ 11:31 AM ET
my belief is that it's hockey and s h i t happens sometimes
- jimbro83


Really? 'Cause I've played some form of hockey for 45 years now and I don't remember where it says you're allowed to run into a player while the puck is 75 feet away and you're looking right at him.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Nov 7 @ 11:34 AM ET
He is. But pre -LTIR they had rough 900k in cap space. They get temporary relief when Fox is on LTIR. The original balance they had gets used for domingue, Brodzinksi, and Mackey. thus taking away cap space when they had in excess. When Fox comes back, the space they had for LTIR is gone.
- blacksheep1


You don't seem to be including the $49,479 we gain every day that Fox is on LTIR, or a minimum of $494,790. I get that it's not much in terms of recalling a contract, but it allows for more flexibility down the road, if needed. Unless I am totally misunderstanding the process.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Nov 7 @ 11:44 AM ET
You don't seem to be including the $49,479 we gain every day that Fox is on LTIR, or a minimum of $494,790. I get that it's not much in terms of recalling a contract, but it allows for more flexibility down the road, if needed. Unless I am totally misunderstanding the process.
- Tonybere

They 50k they gain (and more) is being used as Domingue, Brodzinski and Mackey are here.

Edit: Here is a thread.

https://x.com/HockeyStatM.../1721225027436057017?s=20
fourtrax23
New York Rangers
Joined: 12.17.2008

Nov 7 @ 11:49 AM ET
[quote=Brukie]So according to the chart, Panarin is worse than Goodrow and about half the players in the league.

I noticed that too - this is where the chart is a bit flawed. Game play style is altering the metrics here. Panarin isn't "bursting" often as he changes speed as he dangles. I'm sure he can be faster than the chart suggests.


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