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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: The Battle Of Ontario – Pt. I; Leafs vs. Sens
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 8 @ 8:41 PM ET
Then you need your eyes checked
- Santo_44


Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 8 @ 8:41 PM ET
Then you need your eyes checked
- Santo_44




Ok man. I see a goalie fighting the game tonight. And one who has not even come close to playing enough Pro games but to mention let alone NHL games to anoint him an NHL calibre goalie.

Potential absolutely. Has he proven it? Nope.

I know better than to continue with you here bud so this back and forth is done (with you).

Also:

His AHL SV% stats:
- .880 in 32 starts
- .892 in 15 starts
- .907 in 15 starts
- .927 in 21 starts

Except for last season (2.37) his GAA were all above 3.

Math.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
Ok man. I see a goalie fighting the game tonight. And one who has not even come close to playing enough Pro games but to mention let alone NHL games to anoint him an NHL calibre goalie.

Potential absolutely. Has he proven it? Nope.

I know better than to continue with you here bud so this back and forth is done (with you).

Also:

His AHL SV% stats:
- .880 in 32 starts
- .892 in 15 starts
- .907 in 15 starts
- .927 in 21 starts

Except for last season (2.37) his GAA were all above 3.

Math.

- Big23Questions

AHL stats are irrelevant.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 8 @ 8:43 PM ET
🤣🤣🤣🤣
- Roadrunner75




4 laughing smiley crying guy emojis? He did it eh! That one got ya right in the gut! I love it.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:43 PM ET
AHL stats are irrelevant.
- mjones242


Ahhh bully poopers. I want those junior stats dammit!!!
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

Nov 8 @ 8:43 PM ET
Mitch and PAPI good for 7 pts combined tonight.
The two superstars gonna drag them to a victory.

The middle six is cooling off, well, the second line is.

Maybe Domi and Knies show up tonight.

- Arctic_AARDVARK

We are in for one hell of a third.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 8 @ 8:45 PM ET
Ok man. I see a goalie fighting the game tonight. And one who has not even come close to playing enough Pro games but to mention let alone NHL games to anoint him an NHL calibre goalie.

Potential absolutely. Has he proven it? Nope.

I know better than to continue with you here bud so this back and forth is done (with you).

Also:

His AHL SV% stats:
- .880 in 32 starts
- .892 in 15 starts
- .907 in 15 starts
- .927 in 21 starts

Except for last season (2.37) his GAA were all above 3.

Math.

- Big23Questions


When were those low numbers ? This year? Last year?

Sorry man but if you are going to spew bull poop and say the numbers are wrong because it’s what you see I’ll call you out on it.

You are stubborn and quite frankly I don’t think you understand a lot of things.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:45 PM ET
We are in for one hell of a third.
- Drapz


Hopefully come out a bit harder and dont let up at all. Better focus. This could be a great period, or this could get ugly. No real in between this season.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 8 @ 8:45 PM ET
AHL stats are irrelevant.
- mjones242



So what stats are relevant when judging a prospects Pro talent and capabilities? If a player is abysmal at the AHL level he should get the call up? That doesn’t make sense man.

I save myself some time here:

In Woll (and or Sammy…flavour of the week) we trust!
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 8 @ 8:45 PM ET
They said couple games ago Calgary wanted an offensive d man. I say they can have Klank for a stetson and bison burger and call it a day
- Roadrunner75

Not a lot of bison out here to be honest. We did invent the Caesar though

And. ginger beef
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 8 @ 8:46 PM ET

- dmnted

self-portrait??
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 8 @ 8:47 PM ET
Ahhh bully poopers. I want those junior stats dammit!!!
- Roadrunner75




So your play in Jr - gets the draft - draft gets you unless you are a super talent - a Pro contract usually starting in AHL for majority - play on AHL gets you a shot in the NHL.

Bot my eyes or opinion - that’s how she goes bud
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:47 PM ET
Not a lot of bison out here to be honest. We did invent the Caesar though
- drexel


Huh really? Last time out there man was on most of the menus. Great place downtown on red mile, really good bison burger there.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:47 PM ET
AHL stats are irrelevant.
- mjones242


How about instead of picking an unnecessary fight - Woll isn't looking as comfortable tonight. His glove has been a bit slow, it's been more ineffective at trapping the puck, his rebounds have been ok, but not as controlled as we've seen them and his net positioning / poise is a lot busier than it is when it's on top of his game.

For all intents and purposes he is an AHL goalie until he's established himself as an NHL goalie. He's been excellent more often than not in his short NHL career - but so far this year he has a 40% quality start percentage. His two elite games that have buoyed his stats were relief games against Tampa after Sammy crapped the bed.

So I want this kid to be great - but so far he has work to do on his consistency and especially as a starter - where I do have higher expectations.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM ET
When were those low numbers ? This year? Last year?

Sorry man but if you are going to spew bull poop and say the numbers are wrong because it’s what you see I’ll call you out on it.

You are stubborn and quite frankly I don’t think you understand a lot of things.

- Santo_44

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Those are his stats (hockey db). Totals. Ever. That’s my point. He’s barely played pro hockey and he being anointed a legit nhl tender. Christ goalies that play full seasons go away. This guy had like what 7 starts leading into this season?
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM ET
So what stats are relevant when judging a prospects Pro talent and capabilities? If a player is abysmal at the AHL level he should get the call up? That doesn’t make sense man.

I save myself some time here:

In Woll (and or Sammy…flavour of the week) we trust!

- Big23Questions

Dude, GAA and S% are never seriously used by mgmt/scouts when evaluating gaoltending talent.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Nov 8 @ 8:49 PM ET
this Cozentino guy is possibly more punchable than Perry
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 8 @ 8:50 PM ET
Huh really? Last time out there man was on most of the menus. Great place downtown on red mile, really good bison burger there.
- Roadrunner75

To be honest, I’m more a fan of the idea of eating bison than actually eating bison.

It’s just too lean to lean to be really tasty.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:51 PM ET
How about instead of picking an unnecessary fight - Woll isn't looking as comfortable tonight. His glove has been a bit slow, it's been more ineffective at trapping the puck, his rebounds have been ok, but not as controlled as we've seen them and his net positioning / poise is a lot busier than it is when it's on top of his game.

For all intents and purposes he is an AHL goalie until he's established himself as an NHL goalie. He's been excellent more often than not in his short NHL career - but so far this year he has a 40% quality start percentage. His two elite games that have buoyed his stats were relief games against Tampa after Sammy crapped the bed.

So I want this kid to be great - but so far he has work to do on his consistency and especially as a starter - where I do have higher expectations.

- Monkeypunk



He's been good but yeah he hasnt elevated to really lay claim to the starter job. Honestly, still think need a steady vet who's been there, done that and gone through it all to help him deal with the pressures. Better than Sammy with him havin issues.
Big23Questions
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 04.11.2018

Nov 8 @ 8:51 PM ET
Dude, GAA and S% are never seriously used by mgmt/scouts when evaluating gaoltending talent.
- mjones242




Either are actually playing pro games eh? Everyone just guesses by the players name how good he will be - Woll sounds like Wall so he got a shot.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:52 PM ET
To be honest, I’m more a fan of the idea of eating bison than actually eating bison.

It’s just too lean to lean to be really tasty.

- Atomic Wedgie


Found it tasty but more greasy and gamey flavor to it.
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 8 @ 8:57 PM ET
How about instead of picking an unnecessary fight - Woll isn't looking as comfortable tonight. His glove has been a bit slow, it's been more ineffective at trapping the puck, his rebounds have been ok, but not as controlled as we've seen them and his net positioning / poise is a lot busier than it is when it's on top of his game.

For all intents and purposes he is an AHL goalie until he's established himself as an NHL goalie. He's been excellent more often than not in his short NHL career - but so far this year he has a 40% quality start percentage. His two elite games that have buoyed his stats were relief games against Tampa after Sammy crapped the bed.

So I want this kid to be great - but so far he has work to do on his consistency and especially as a starter - where I do have higher expectations.

- Monkeypunk

I'm not picking any fights, I'm merely stating that surface level AHL statistics are not very relevant in assessing goaltender quality.

If you want to carry - or defend - a narrative that he is or isn't NHL-quality based on minor league statistics, knock yourself out.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
Found it tasty but more greasy and gamey flavor to it.
- Roadrunner75

There’s a crazy place just outside of Meaford that has all sorts of wild game on the menu.

Ted’s Range Road Diner:

https://www.shopmeaford.c...geid=10000402&page=3#menu
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Nov 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
Either are actually playing pro games eh? Everyone just guesses by the players name how good he will be - Woll sounds like Wall so he got a shot.
- Big23Questions

Fortunately, there are scouts/mgmt who assess goalies on more than minor leagues stats and/or how cool their name sounds.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Nov 8 @ 8:59 PM ET
There’s a crazy place just outside of Meaford that has all sorts of wild game on the menu.

Ted’s Range Road Diner:

https://www.shopmeaford.c...geid=10000402&page=3#menu

- Atomic Wedgie



I think I sort of recall that place. Been years since was out there
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