Ek and Santa E4
- Bob Habib

The odds makers must have started their weekend early.

- Phillywhiteout

MJL told them Frost was starting 😁

MJL told them Frost was starting 😁
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Your ignorant if you think the NFL is a cash cow just because of fantasy football and sports betting. It's a bad opinion that it is a bad product. The facts say otherwise. Stating that many folks share it is a fallacy.
- MJL

You really do struggle to have adult conversations with someone that disagrees with you don't you? Calling me ignorant and saying I have a bad opinion just cause it differs from your precious opinion is childish, and you are embarrassing yourself on here this evening. Anyone and everyone knows that a huge part of the NFL is the betting and fantasy football leagues, and there is no denying it. I used to be a huge NFL fan, but now I barely go out of my way to watch a game unless I have a BET on it or it's between two of the better teams and I am FAR from alone on this.

You really do struggle to have adult conversations with someone that disagrees with you don't you? Calling me ignorant and saying I have a bad opinion just cause it differs from your precious opinion is childish, and you are embarrassing yourself on here this evening. Thanks!
- Phillywhiteout

You reap what you sow. You started with "well you tried". That's when the kids gloves come off and I show you how uninformed you are. On pretty much everything. Someone who routinely childishly puts down others for enjoying other sports and other sports teams has no standing to judge anyone on anything. You don't like the NFL so it's a bad product. There is no such thing as an adult conversation with you. You would have to act like an adult to have that. You're welcome.

You reap what you sow. You started with "nice try". That's when the kids gloves come off and I show you how uninformed you are. On pretty much everything. Someone who routinely childishly puts down others for enjoying other sports and other sports teams has no standing to judge anyone on anything. There is no such thing as an adult conversation with you. You would have to act like an adult to have that. Your welcome.
- MJL

Huh? I give up as usual. No point in trying to reason with you because you became offended cause I said nice try. Eh what? Did you catch that riveting game last night between the Chicago Bears and Carolina Panthers? I didn't cause it was on Prime and I wouldn't pay a red cent to watch those two pathetic teams. If they brought in good ratings for that game you just know it was based on betting and fantasy standings. I'm standing on solid ground here, but you refuse to see it. I do have some business to take care of now, so I will have to bid you ado. Frosty with the hat trick tonight!! Now will you like me again?

Huh? I give up as usual. No point in trying to reason with you because you became offended cause I said nice try. Eh what? Did you catch that riveting game last night between the Chicago Bears and Carolina Panthers? I didn't cause it was on Prime and I wouldn't pay a red cent to watch those two pathetic teams. If they brought in good ratings for that game you just know it was based on betting and fantasy standings. I'm standing on solid ground here, but you refuse to see it. I do have some business to take care of now, so I will have to bid you ado. Frosty with the hat trick tonight!! Now will you like me again?
- Phillywhiteout

Proving my point. Thanks.

Lack of national TV contracts is the big culprit. 5 of the 6 originals generate the biggest share of the revenue. The NFL dwarfs both the NBA and the NHL.
- Minnyhock

Haha, and the league pulled the games from ESPN/ABC/Disney and gave it to OLN, lol. Right as Sid and OV and Kane were coming into the league, too.

Imagine all the potential growth they left on the table by doing that.

The NBA is always going to make more money than the NHL in this country.
- Phillywhiteout

There was a point in time when the NHL had a legit fighting chance but they blew it.

As people have said: it's the best game in the world, but the worst league.

There was a point in time when the NHL had a legit fighting chance but they blew it.

As people have said: it's the best game in the world, but the worst league.
- Tomahawk

That's why we all love Bettman!! He's made a lot of really good decisions for the governors.... I mean for the league.... oops

There was a point in time when the NHL had a legit fighting chance but they blew it.

As people have said: it's the best game in the world, but the worst league.
- Tomahawk

I’m not that old so don’t really recall a time when the leagues were neck and neck. I imagine the takeoff or nail in the coffin for the NBA was Michael Jordan?

I’m not that old so don’t really recall a time when the leagues were neck and neck. I imagine the takeoff or nail in the coffin for the NBA was Michael Jordan?
- ClaudeFather

Naw, Gretzky was just as much of a household name as Jordan at the time, especially after The Trade.

The leagues were near revenue parity as recently as the early 2000s. Very different trajectories since then.

Haha, and the league pulled the games from ESPN/ABC/Disney and gave it to OLN, lol. Right as Sid and OV and Kane were coming into the league, too.

Imagine all the potential growth they left on the table by doing that.


- Tomahawk

My recall may be bad. But I think that ESPN opted out of the contract after the 2004-05 lockout. The 3 lockouts have been disastrous for the NHL. Horrendous management to not be able to avoid that. Then the pandemic nuked them again.

Naw, Gretzky was just as much of a household name as Jordan at the time, especially after The Trade.

The leagues were near revenue parity as recently as the early 2000s. Very different trajectories since then.
- Tomahawk

Almost hard believe it was the 2000s with ovie and Crosby coming just 5 years later, how did they Frank up that bad in the short time frame

My recall may be bad. But I think that ESPN opted out of the contract after the 2004-05 lockout. The 3 lockouts have been disastrous for the NHL. Horrendous management to not be able to avoid that. Then the pandemic nuked them again.
- Minnyhock

League chased the bigger offer from OLN/Comcast. Disney/ESPN declined to match.

And yeah, the constant lockouts were a huge factor as well.

Very sloppy game, tons of chances both ways

League chased the bigger offer from OLN/Comcast. Disney/ESPN declined to match.

And yeah, the constant lockouts were a huge factor as well.
- Tomahawk

The outdoor life network 😂 forsberg flyer days : to be so short sighted and sign on to a fishing network is as dumb as you can get

League chased the bigger offer from OLN/Comcast. Disney/ESPN declined to match.

And yeah, the constant lockouts were a huge factor as well.
- Tomahawk

Ok. But wasn’t the NHL pissed because ESPN et all were reducing regular season and playoff coverage going forward.?

Could very easily be 5-0 flyers…

Ok. But wasn’t the NHL pissed because ESPN et all were reducing regular season and playoff coverage going forward.?
- Minnyhock

IIRC the NHL didn't like that the games were often on ESPN2 instead of the main channel.

But then they jumped to a network that wasn't even carried by a lot of cable providers so yeah... weird logic.

Could very easily be 5-0 flyers…
- dozerD10

Ducks had their chances as well, neither coach could be happy with that period

Ducks had their chances as well, neither coach could be happy with that period
- ClaudeFather

2 clear cut breakaways that Dostal saved… unreal

We totally reverted back to Eakins crap Ducks from last year.. that’s the first period this year we’ve done that..

2 clear cut breakaways that Dostal saved… unreal

We totally reverted back to Eakins crap Ducks from last year.. that’s the first period this year we’ve done that..
- dozerD10

They look a hell of a lot more engaged this year.

Well that was fun to watch.


Eresson looked good. I expect Sanhiem and Tippet to sit next game for their fancy skills resulting in lucky goals…🤪

Also, that Leo Carson kid looks alright, eh?

They look a hell of a lot more engaged this year.
- landros 2

Solid win. Missed the game but looks like Tippett played well. Frost with a point! He’s got to stay in now. Kings will maul us today