Your comment stated nothing of the sort. . Your comment had nothing to do with rookie vs veterans.
- paulr

I said that is what i meant by my post. Often times rookies get called for something that a veteran would not. Nothing else meant or implied by the refs.. all evens out. I had no problem with the no call.

Zaitsev kept it simple yesterday, Tinordi brings toughness, I think that Zaitsev is the less of the two evils. Kaiser had a nice game yesterday, in my opinion he plays better with #22 than with #25.
- Angotti

There's a good reason for that..............

There's a good reason for that..............
- vabeachbear

Kaiser is a natural LD?

The response to trading Mrzak on this board was in agreement: Soderstrom or any.of our young goaltenders need a veteran since they arecnot ready tp shouldef the presdure of being.the main guy in net.

There was also mentioned how Soderstrom.needs to work on some things, to become better.

I just want to suggest that KD could find any veteran to share net after the trade deadline...........but only share net for the balance of the current season.

There may or may not be a veteran to sign after this season who can team up with Soderstrom mext season. Whether this mystery goaltender is as good as Mrzak is hard to say

However all this just to say, I believe wiz that KD wants (or wiz thinks KD would be wise) to draft a Maker type.

The early round one selection hopefully is on a forward. If KD cannot choose the forward he wsnts, maybe he trades down a few spots and drafts the dman he likes. But who knows if there is a Maker skill type with serious worts who is pegged in the first half of round one.

Say we did receive a first round choice in trading Mrzak. KD has to deduce the odds this dmsn is still on the board when Chicagp drafts

Ideas are spinning in KD's mind . But right now it.is too early to suggest trade.and draft too seriously

We the fans have to wait maybe even past the Rinzell and possibly Harding show.

The response to trading Mrzak on this board was in agreement: Soderstrom or any.of our young goaltenders need a veteran since they arecnot ready tp shouldef the presdure of being.the main guy in net.

There was also mentioned how Soderstrpm.n⁸eeds to work on some things, to become better.

I just want to suggest that KD could find any veteran to share net after the trade deadline...........but only share net for the balance of the current season.

There may or may not be a veteran to sign after this season who can team up with Soderstrom mext season. Whether thus mystety goaltendet iscad good as Mrzak is hard to say

However all this just to say, I believe wiz that KD wants (or wiz thinks KD woyld be wise) to draft a Maker type.

The early round one selection hopefully is on a forward. If KD cannot choose the forward he wsnts, maybe he trades down a few spots and drafts the dman he likes. But who knows if there is a Maker skill type with serious worts who is pegged in theirst half of round one.

Say we did receive a first round choice in trading Mrzak. KD has to deduce the odds this dmsn is still on the board when Chucao drafts

Ideas are spinning in KD's mind . But right now it.is too early to suggest trade.and draft too seriously

We the fans have to wait maybe even past thetþ Rinzell and possibly Harding show.
- jhawk59

Bro! I get fat fingers as much as the next guy, but how in the hell you found a way to add a superscript 8 to the middle of a word is some wizard poop!


More to your point, I thin the Hawks now have a great number of "defensive" defensemen prospects. Vlasic, Kaiser (to an extent), Allan, Del Mastro and most of the rest of the pipeline are all of that ilk. you've basically got Korchinski (who is starting to get a little more aggressive) and Rinzel who we really don't know about yet. I'm sure KD will start to draft that type of player relatively early in the next few drafts trying to find that guy. It's nice to see in Vlasic the Hawks being able to actually draft and develop a D man. I'll give a ton of credit to Dean, Richardson and the coaches for that, but also the player himself.

Fun times!

Bro! I get fat fingers as much as the next guy, but how in the hell you found a way to add a superscript 8 to the middle of a word is some wizard poop!


More to your point, I thin the Hawks now have a great number of "defensive" defensemen prospects. Vlasic, Kaiser (to an extent), Allan, Del Mastro and most of the rest of the pipeline are all of that ilk. you've basically got Korchinski (who is starting to get a little more aggressive) and Rinzel who we really don't know about yet. I'm sure KD will start to draft that type of player relatively early in the next few drafts trying to find that guy. It's nice to see in Vlasic the Hawks being able to actually draft and develop a D man. I'll give a ton of credit to Dean, Richardson and the coaches for that, but also the player himself.

Fun times!
- Chunk

I think it is way too early in the process but to draft who KD thinks is the best available player regardless of position.

There's a good reason for that..............
- vabeachbear

Kaiser is a natural LD?
- Chunk

Or why Zaitsev tries to keep it simple?
Kaiser does play with more confidence on the left side and Zaitsev doesn’t have a choice but to keep it simple.

The Hawks had a hard time getting the puck out of their zone on Sunday, Kaiser had the best results skating the puck out. Korchinski and Vlasic also had some success getting out of their zone, but Kaiser prevailed more often

There's a good reason for that..............
- vabeachbear



Or why Zaitsev tries to keep it simple?
Kaiser does play with more confidence on the left side and Zaitsev doesn’t have a choice but to keep it simple.

The Hawks had a hard time getting the puck out of their zone on Sunday, Kaiser had the best results skating the puck out. Korchinski and Vlasic also had some success getting out of their zone, but Kaiser prevailed more often
- Angotti

One of my main issues with Zaitsev in the past few he's played, since I've been paying more attention to possession, if he's on his back hand behind the net or opposite side boards low in his own end with minimal pressure he weakly backhands it along those boards and Panthers just kept retaining possession in our zone. In one shift i believe he did it 3 times.

Can't wait for these kids to mature, so more kids can come up.

There's a good reason for that..............
- vabeachbear



Or why Zaitsev tries to keep it simple?
Kaiser does play with more confidence on the left side and Zaitsev doesn’t have a choice but to keep it simple.

The Hawks had a hard time getting the puck out of their zone on Sunday, Kaiser had the best results skating the puck out. Korchinski and Vlasic also had some success getting out of their zone, but Kaiser prevailed more often
- Angotti

The next time Zaitsev initiates contact with the opposition, will be the first time this year. He also skates backwards faster than the forwards coming in, always giving up the blue line. Would definitely rather have Tinordi (who was playing the right side the last game he was in).. Would always rather see an error by commission than an error by omission.

Really curious to see if we see Phillips and Kaiser pairing Thursday night. Why not?

One of my main issues with Zaitsev in the past few he's played, since I've been paying more attention to possession, if he's on his back hand behind the net or opposite side boards low in his own end with minimal pressure he weakly backhands it along those boards and Panthers just kept retaining possession in our zone. In one shift i believe he did it 3 times.

Can't wait for these kids to mature, so more kids can come up.
- BetweenTheDots

The thing that was driving me nuts was the number of times a defenseman had the puck deep in the zone with not a single other player available, with pressure coming. There was zero support or passing options available.

The thing that was driving me nuts was the number of times a defenseman had the puck deep in the zone with not a single other player available, with pressure coming. There was zero support or passing options available.
- Chunk

Good point. And if that defenseman gives up puck possession many fans will point the finger at him despite the fact he had no support. Breaking out of the zone a defenseman needs two or more short pass options.

The next time Zaitsev initiates contact with the opposition, will be the first time this year. He also skates backwards faster than the forwards coming in, always giving up the blue line. Would definitely rather have Tinordi (who was playing the right side the last game he was in).. Would always rather see an error by commission than an error by omission.
- LAHawk

Yeah, would rather not play either one to be honest, but if the 6th defenseman was the biggest problem, they would be in good shape. If only they would have drafted Dobson vs Boqvist, they would have been set for years, although they already have a good young crop of defensemen, so we’ll see.

Yeah, would rather not play either one to be honest, but if the 6th defenseman was the biggest problem, they would be in good shape. If only they would have drafted Dobson vs Boqvist, they would have been set for years, although they already have a good young crop of defensemen, so we’ll see.
- Angotti

I agree. I fail to understand instead of playing ping pong with Phillips, that they just didn't waive Zaitsev and bury him in Rockford all year. Not like the Hawks have any cap issues.

The thing that was driving me nuts was the number of times a defenseman had the puck deep in the zone with not a single other player available, with pressure coming. There was zero support or passing options available.
- Chunk

I hear you but each time he did it he didn't even look. Usually a player takes a quick glance to see what his options are, didn't see that from him, not once, seemed to me he was more worried about being forechecked than anything else.

Most times i see the rookies do it, 4, 5 and 25.

I hear you but each time he did it he didn't even look. Usually a player takes a quick glance to see what his options are, didn't see that from him, not once, seemed to me he was more worried about being forechecked than anything else.

Most times i see the rookies do it, 4, 5 and 25.
- BetweenTheDots

I was talking about all the D-men. It happened so many times with almost all of them. The thing I like about KK is that he rarely just stands still with the puck. He normally is moving his feet.

I was talking about all the D-men. It happened so many times with almost all of them. The thing I like about KK is that he rarely just stands still with the puck. He normally is moving his feet.
- Chunk

I agree but i think many of them have done better since that Jersey game, forwards and dmen. I don't think Zaitsev got the memo though. I'm sure it's being brought up.

I think it is way too early in the process but to draft who KD thinks is the best available player regardless of position.
- LAHawk

Agree with going with best available. Still lots of holes on this team, a top 6 forward or two or three, another good RD, and in Wiz' opinion a offensive defenseman. Assuming the Hawks don't select 1st or 2nd, likely candidates, as of now, in the 3-7 slots are forwards Catton and Demidov and defensemen Levshunov (R), D!ckinson (L), Silayev(L) and Jiricek (R).

Agree with going with best available. Still lots of holes on this team, a top 6 forward or two or three, another good RD, and in Wiz' opinion a offensive defenseman. Assuming the Hawks don't select 1st or 2nd, likely candidates, as of now, in the 3-7 slots are forwards Catton and Demidov and defensemen Levshunov (R), D!ckinson (L), Silayev(L) and Jiricek (R).
- boilermaker100

I’m sure KD will go with the best player on his board. I just think they will rate the more skilled D-men higher than the other type which will make it more likely to draft one.

Agree with going with best available. Still lots of holes on this team, a top 6 forward or two or three, another good RD, and in Wiz' opinion a offensive defenseman. Assuming the Hawks don't select 1st or 2nd, likely candidates, as of now, in the 3-7 slots are forwards Catton and Demidov and defensemen Levshunov (R), D!ckinson (L), Silayev(L) and Jiricek (R).
- boilermaker100

Yea I'm a big believer of best available. As I've gotten older in football i believe now best available premium position. I don't know if you can do that for hockey except for maybe goalie? What is considered premium position? I know LA, i think, drafted only centers and right handed defenseman with their high 1st round picks. Imho In hockey best available highest ceiling player you can draft besides goalie.

Bro! I get fat fingers as much as the next guy, but how in the hell you found a way to add a superscript 8 to the middle of a word is some wizard poop!


More to your point, I thin the Hawks now have a great number of "defensive" defensemen prospects. Vlasic, Kaiser (to an extent), Allan, Del Mastro and most of the rest of the pipeline are all of that ilk. you've basically got Korchinski (who is starting to get a little more aggressive) and Rinzel who we really don't know about yet. I'm sure KD will start to draft that type of player relatively early in the next few drafts trying to find that guy. It's nice to see in Vlasic the Hawks being able to actually draft and develop a D man. I'll give a ton of credit to Dean, Richardson and the coaches for that, but also the player himself.

Fun times!
- Chunk

The tape I saw on Rinzel reminded me of Drew Doughty the way he glides around the ice.

The tape I saw on Rinzel reminded me of Drew Doughty the way he glides around the ice.
- rpeters01

Hopefully he learns the play as well in his own zone.

Hopefully he learns the play as well in his own zone.
- Chunk

If Rinzel can play well in his own zone, the Hawks will be all set on the backend for quite awhile. Hopefully Dean is still here when Rinzel arrives, because the eye test tells me that he’s done a fantastic job so far with Kaiser, Korchinski, and Vlasic.

If Rinzel can play well in his own zone, the Hawks will be all set on the backend for quite awhile. Hopefully Dean is still here when Rinzel arrives, because the eye test tells me that he’s done a fantastic job so far with Kaiser, Korchinski, and Vlasic.
- Angotti

No coincidence that he was the D coach when McIlvoy, Grzalek and Carlo entered the league.

Yeah, would rather not play either one to be honest, but if the 6th defenseman was the biggest problem, they would be in good shape. If only they would have drafted Dobson vs Boqvist, they would have been set for years, although they already have a good young crop of defensemen, so we’ll see.
- Angotti

Watched a good bit of NYI @ EDM last night and if you get a chance look at EDM's 3rd goal scored by McDavid. ..... McD coming on the rush, Dobson is covering him, at the top of the circle he hits 5th gear, Dobson right then spins from skating forwards to backwards AND only loses a 1/4 step in the process, shows a great stick but McD scores anyway.

Either/or/and Dobson showed elite skating or we see why McD is in a kinda slump and his 5th-6th gear ain't there right now...... Either way it's worth a look to see Dobson flip his hips skating from forwards to backwards as he marks McD hitting overdrive.