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Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 14 @ 12:29 PM ET
I like cherry picking stats. All you need to do is choose a narrative afterwards that supports your argument and you're golden.
- Load Management

This is very 2023, well done...sir!!
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
Whats missing from the debate and posted article is why it's titled "Not Ranked". What were the rankings the Canucks were left out of because "They are not this good"?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 14 @ 12:39 PM ET
Whats missing from the debate and posted article is why it's titled "Not Ranked". What were the rankins the Canucks were left out of because "They are not this good"?
- boonerbuck


It's just ranking the top 5 teams he thinks have the best road to the cup. Canucks were "not ranked", so basically an honorable mention of sorts.

But, the only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
It's just ranking the top 5 teams he thinks have the best road to the cup. Canucks were "not ranked", so basically an honorable mention of sorts.

But, the only thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about

- NewYorkNuck


This puts a little more perspective on the debate. Canuck's 100% healthy are debatable top 5 but I don't think this team has the depth other teams have to fight through it and go all the way if hit with injuries to key positions.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 12:52 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal

Replying to
@HockeyAgent1
This is a player that has been coveted by the Canucks for a while.

If Zadorov hits July 1st, Vancouver will be on his list of potential destinations.

Maybe in July or if Cole or Soucy go down long term but otherwise, wouldn't waste the assets. Wolanin or Hirose can come up and play games if need be for a little while.

I'd say he is propped up a bit by the way Calgary has played over the years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
This puts a little more perspective on the debate. Canuck's 100% healthy are debatable top 5 but I don't think this team has the depth other teams have to fight through it and go all the way if hit with injuries to key positions.
- boonerbuck


Most other teams don't have the depth either when it comes to injury. Supposedly Petey is injured and we just won 2 of 3.

If McDavid goes down ( an expected cup winner) who are the Oilers calling up? We just beat their farm team soundly two games in a row on the weekend.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:13 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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38m
#NHL’s Colin Campbell says GMs discussed the idea of changing rule to limit teams from continually looping back and regrouping in 3-on-3 OT.

Potential solutions: Once you cross red or blue line, can’t go back out again. Or a shot clock.

Discussions ongoing, tabled to March.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
BREAKING: Hockey player Matt Petgrave has reportedly been arrested for the death of Adam Johnson.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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38m
#NHL’s Colin Campbell says GMs discussed the idea of changing rule to limit teams from continually looping back and regrouping in 3-on-3 OT.

Potential solutions: Once you cross red or blue line, can’t go back out again. Or a shot clock.

Discussions ongoing, tabled to March.

- VANTEL

KHL implemented a rule about how long you are allowed to stay behind your net with the puck then it becomes a penalty or something.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Nov 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
KHL implemented a rule about how long you are allowed to stay behind your net with the puck then it becomes a penalty or something.
- manvanfan


makes sense, delay of game
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
Most other teams don't have the depth either when it comes to injury. Supposedly Petey is injured and we just won 2 of 3.

If McDavid goes down ( an expected cup winner) who are the Oilers calling up? We just beat their farm team soundly two games in a row on the weekend.

- VANTEL


Petey is in the line u still and contributing aside from one of those games(and he still put some nice plays together). I'm talking about players who are out for a reasonable amount of time.

Oilers should not be considered a top 5 contender in any honest debate with their goal tending and a whopping 2nd last in the NHL as we approach American Thanksgiving.

I don't know who has ranked top 5. I don't have a sub for the Athletic. Depth should be a major consideration though.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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38m
#NHL’s Colin Campbell says GMs discussed the idea of changing rule to limit teams from continually looping back and regrouping in 3-on-3 OT.

Potential solutions: Once you cross red or blue line, can’t go back out again. Or a shot clock.

Discussions ongoing, tabled to March.

- VANTEL


3 on 3 is boring and the NHL has this ridiculous habit of fixing bad ideas with another bad idea instead of scratching the bad idea altogether. Should be laughable what they come up with.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
KHL implemented a rule about how long you are allowed to stay behind your net with the puck then it becomes a penalty or something.
- manvanfan


KHL does 3v3 OT as well?
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Nov 14 @ 1:38 PM ET
3 on 3 is boring and the NHL has this ridiculous habit of fixing bad ideas with another bad idea instead of scratching the bad idea altogether. Should be laughable what they come up with.
- boonerbuck


4 on 4 for 3 minutes and you get 3 points for a W
then 2 minutes 3 vs. 3 no extra point given




VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:39 PM ET
Petey is in the line up and still and contributing aside from one of those games(and he still put some nice plays together). I'm talking about players who are out for a reasonable amount of time.

Oilers should not be considered a top 5 contender in any honest debate with their goal tending and a whopping 2nd last in the NHL as we approach American Thanksgiving.

I don't know who has ranked top 5. I don't have a sub for the Athletic. Depth should be a major consideration though.

- boonerbuck


Almost every team does not have the depth on their farm systems. Most NHL skilled players are already playing in the watered down NHL.

I believe Canucks are a top 10 team and do have top 10 depth. Hirose has played NHL games and looked fine and so has Wolanin. If a forward goes down their are a number of players to chose from Podz. Bains Aman Dries Hogs.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
4 on 4 for 3 minutes and you get 3 points for a W
then 2 minutes 3 vs. 3 no extra point given

- canucksfan1944


Or you can skip overtime all together and line up every player on the blue line and fire 18 pucks all at once and whoever has the most go in wins.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
KHL does 3v3 OT as well?
- boonerbuck

Yes.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Nov 14 @ 1:52 PM ET
Petey is in the line u still and contributing aside from one of those games(and he still put some nice plays together). I'm talking about players who are out for a reasonable amount of time.

Oilers should not be considered a top 5 contender in any honest debate with their goal tending and a whopping 2nd last in the NHL as we approach American Thanksgiving.

I don't know who has ranked top 5. I don't have a sub for the Athletic. Depth should be a major consideration though.

- boonerbuck


It's more a season/Cup outlook than a "who's the hottest right now", but:

5. New York Rangers (11-2-2, +15 true goals differential*) — I’ve seen enough. The Rangers become the eighth team to find their way into the Top Five so far this year. They have just one loss in their last 10, and that was a shootout so it barely counts. I’m still not convinced Peter Laviolette was much more than a backup plan when it came to their coaching search, but he’s got them humming right now, even if they needed a buzzer-beater to survive the Columbus Blue Jackets last night.

4. Colorado Avalanche (8-5-0, -1) — Give them credit: When they lose, they get their money’s worth. They’ve only lost five, but that includes three shutouts and Saturday’s 8-2 loss to the Blues. How bad was it? They even gave up two power-play goals to St. Louis, who had just one all year heading into the game. (Weird stat: The Blues also scored a pair of short-handed goals in that one, meaning they somehow still have more goals at four-on-five than they do at five-on-four.)

3. Boston Bruins (11-1-2, +17) — Losing to the Habs is always tough, especially when you can’t lord that win streak over them anymore. Still, five out of six points makes for a solid week. If you’re a Boston fan and wanted to see them even higher, the Friday guys have you covered.

2. Dallas Stars (10-3-1, +17) — For what it’s worth, The Athletic’s staff agrees with my top two; Our most recent round of Cup picks has the Stars and Knights tied at the top. After watching them flex on the hapless Minnesota Wild last night, I doubt anyone is asking for a recount.

1. Vegas Golden Knights (12-2-1, +23) — We got to find out what happens when the No. 1 team in the Top Five faces the No. 1 team in the Bottom Five. It turns out it’s exactly what you’d think would happen.

*Goals differential without counting shootout decisions like the NHL does for some reason.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Nov 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
Or you can skip overtime all together and line up every player on the blue line and fire 18 pucks all at once and whoever has the most go in wins.

- VANTEL


Maybe have a player in the net and the goalies shoot? First goal wins
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 14 @ 2:01 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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38m
#NHL’s Colin Campbell says GMs discussed the idea of changing rule to limit teams from continually looping back and regrouping in 3-on-3 OT.

Potential solutions: Once you cross red or blue line, can’t go back out again. Or a shot clock.

Discussions ongoing, tabled to March.

- VANTEL


How about getting rid of the stupid shootout and making OT like in the NBA where there has to be a winner (and better yet, no loser points)
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
Leading the NHL in regulation wins.... Your Vancouver Canucks.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 14 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yes.
- manvanfan

Are the Red Wings going to regress like the Canucks eventually will? They aren’t playing way above themselves like the Canucks are, so it appears anyways.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 2:04 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
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2m
Studnicka clears
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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38m
#NHL’s Colin Campbell says GMs discussed the idea of changing rule to limit teams from continually looping back and regrouping in 3-on-3 OT.

Potential solutions: Once you cross red or blue line, can’t go back out again. Or a shot clock.

Discussions ongoing, tabled to March.

- VANTEL

OH FFS the shootouts are bad enough after 3/3 unsolved. Just go to ten mins of 5/5 and if no winner each team gets a point and moves on. If it ends on OT winner gets 2 points the loser nothing. Want teams to play hard instead of playing for the loser point? Take it away.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
Are the Red Wings going to regress like the Canucks eventually will? They aren’t playing way above themselves like the Canucks are, so it appears anyways.
- Pacificgem

From a 4-1-0 start to 4-4-2 in their last 10 is not regression?
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