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Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Nov 16 @ 9:21 AM ET
A cautionary tale against Tanking! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFADcfQHVpI
- jd250


I'll say it again, only one team has won the Stanley Cup in the last 15 years without a #1 or #2 overall pick on the roster. One. And, that Blues team had a #3 and a #4 overall pick on the roster. Enjoy no man's land.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 16 @ 9:26 AM ET
I'll say it again, only one team has won the Stanley Cup in the last 15 years without a #1 or #2 overall pick on the roster. One. And, that Blues team had a #3 and a #4 overall pick on the roster. Enjoy no man's land.
- Quetzalcoatl



And if you include Schenn, a #5 overall pick.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
Walker looks like he is playing his way into a contract extension so fsr this season
- Bob Habib

He’s a solid player. Potentially a solid trade chip at the deadline
Quetzalcoatl
Location: Buffalo Sabres / Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 12.02.2009

Nov 16 @ 9:28 AM ET
And if you include Schenn, a #5 overall pick.
- MBFlyerfan


ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 16 @ 9:28 AM ET
And if you include Schenn, a #5 overall pick.
- MBFlyerfan

Vegas had two #2s!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:32 AM ET
He’s a solid player. Potentially a solid trade chip at the deadline
- ClaudeFather



He's better than I thought he would be. A better RH shot option than Ristolainen for the 3rd pair. That they didn't have to pay a boat load for and actually gained assets to take on.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 16 @ 9:33 AM ET
Huge win. The hugest.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 16 @ 9:34 AM ET
Foerster got 20 minutes of ice time and looked about as likely to score an NHL goal as that lady in the red shirt sitting behind Brindy.

That was a good win on the road, but it's bizarre to have Bobby Brink sitting in the stands while Deslauriers is basically unplayable and only gets 7 minutes, Foerster is gifted way too much ice time that he doesn't deserve, and now they're trying to make Poehling the 3C after giving up on Cates.

Poehling had 14:55 at ES, Cates had 7:25.

- Feanor


Pics, or it didn't happen.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 16 @ 9:37 AM ET
Not convinced the Flyers will trade anyone at the deadline. Why should they? Tortorella is leading this ship and he is trying to win. Plus it wouldn’t be fair to the players.

This all sounds so familiar.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 16 @ 9:39 AM ET
Not convinced the Flyers will trade anyone at the deadline. Why should they? Tortorella is leading this ship and he is trying to win. Plus it wouldn’t be fair to the players.

This all sounds so familiar.

- StepfordSam

The trade deadline will be the final indicator on what this team is doing. I’d they aren’t sellers, we might as well watch another team.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 16 @ 9:39 AM ET
Not convinced the Flyers will trade anyone at the deadline. Why should they? Tortorella is leading this ship and he is trying to win. Plus it wouldn’t be fair to the players.

This all sounds so familiar.

- StepfordSam


Points wise the Flyers are currently in a playoff spot.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 16 @ 9:40 AM ET
Points wise the Flyers are currently in a playoff spot.
- MJL


Right back in it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Nov 16 @ 9:48 AM ET
Vegas had two #2s!
- ClaudeFather






It took me a while to figure out who was the second #2 pick lol

But they did have a #4 in Pietrangelo.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Nov 16 @ 10:00 AM ET
Give credit where it is due, Carter was fantastic and those 2 stellar 1st period saves were key. The Flyers were outplayed for most of the 2nd and third periods, but you can win games like that when you get clutch goaltending.

Now the not so good stuff:
Giving Brink one game off is fine, but he needed to play last night. It’s not like Foerster is doing anything special but the guy who should have sat last night was Nic D. Carolina certainly isnt a team that’s going to goon things up so there was zero need for the plug to be dressed last night.

And seriously, the powerplay? I mean it’s beyond ridiculous at this point. Do something! I would suggest replacing Rocky as pp coach, but hey, what do I know? I’ve only followed the team for over half a century!

My preseason fear was that this team would be just good enough to miss the playoffs by just a few points and that’s the worst place to be.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 16 @ 10:01 AM ET
Pics, or it didn't happen.
- hockeylover


If you have access to a game replay, she showed up behind Rod when he took his timeout in the final minute.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
Give credit where it is due, Carter was fantastic and those 2 stellar 1st period saves were key. The Flyers were outplayed for most of the 2nd and third periods, but you can win games like that when you get clutch goaltending.

Now the not so good stuff:
Giving Brink one game off is fine, but he needed to play last night. It’s not like Foerster is doing anything special but the guy who should have sat last night was Nic D. Carolina certainly isnt a team that’s going to goon things up so there was zero need for the plug to be dressed last night.

And seriously, the powerplay? I mean it’s beyond ridiculous at this point. Do something! I would suggest replacing Rocky as pp coach, but hey, what do I know? I’ve only followed the team for over half a century!

My preseason fear was that this team would be just good enough to miss the playoffs by just a few points and that’s the worst place to be.

- BiggE

1 game verse 2 games for Brink is not a big deal. If it continues it’s then an issue. I don’t even know what to say about the powerplay, I do like that they’ve adjusted the entry approach a bit where more guys are coming up the ice together rather than their mile away slingshot
atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Nov 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'll say it again, only one team has won the Stanley Cup in the last 15 years without a #1 or #2 overall pick on the roster. One. And, that Blues team had a #3 and a #4 overall pick on the roster. Enjoy no man's land.
- Quetzalcoatl


Are we counting the teams who haven't won a cup despite having #1 or #2 overall picks in their lineup? There are far more of them over the last 15 years.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Nov 16 @ 10:12 AM ET
If you have access to a game replay, she showed up behind Rod when he took his timeout in the final minute.
- Feanor



Ironic, the camera is on them and Edzo goes they are looking for some bounces.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 16 @ 10:23 AM ET
1 game verse 2 games for Brink is not a big deal. If it continues it’s then an issue. I don’t even know what to say about the powerplay, I do like that they’ve adjusted the entry approach a bit where more guys are coming up the ice together rather than their mile away slingshot
- ClaudeFather


Only two games, but it will be eight days off for Brink if he even gets back in against Vegas. Does anyone think the lines from yesterday look better than this?

Farabee-Couturier-Konecny
Tippett-Frost-Foerster
Atkinson-Laughton-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Nov 16 @ 10:24 AM ET
He’s a solid player. Potentially a solid trade chip at the deadline
- ClaudeFather

I see him being traded at the deadline for a high pick, and the Flyers resigning him in the offseason if the price is reasonable. He is a lot better than I thought ... but then again I don't watch LA games all that often.
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Nov 16 @ 10:26 AM ET
Seeler brings it every night. A solid 3rd pair Dman making 775K , plays physical , blocks shots and not too mention a + 10. Made a great play on TK goal
- 3flyerkids

Agree and I can't stand Seeler because he is the poster child of the Flyers - lunch pail player, no skill (slight over statement) who would most likely be toiling in the AHL save for one team that traditionally avoids youth like te plague
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 16 @ 10:27 AM ET
Only two games, but it will be eight days off for Brink if he even gets back in against Vegas. Does anyone think the lines from yesterday look better than this?

Farabee-Couturier-Konecny
Tippett-Frost-Foerster
Atkinson-Laughton-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway

- Feanor

I’d swap Foerester and Brink
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 16 @ 10:27 AM ET
Only two games, but it will be eight days off for Brink if he even gets back in against Vegas. Does anyone think the lines from yesterday look better than this?

Farabee-Couturier-Konecny
Tippett-Frost-Foerster
Atkinson-Laughton-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway

- Feanor


Torts
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Nov 16 @ 10:28 AM ET
Foerster got 20 minutes of ice time and looked about as likely to score an NHL goal as that lady in the red shirt sitting behind Brindy.

That was a good win on the road, but it's bizarre to have Bobby Brink sitting in the stands while Deslauriers is basically unplayable and only gets 7 minutes, Foerster is gifted way too much ice time that he doesn't deserve, and now they're trying to make Poehling the 3C after giving up on Cates.

Poehling had 14:55 at ES, Cates had 7:25.

- Feanor

I'm guessing the lady in red eventually scored last night
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Nov 16 @ 10:28 AM ET
Not convinced the Flyers will trade anyone at the deadline. Why should they? Tortorella is leading this ship and he is trying to win. Plus it wouldn’t be fair to the players.

This all sounds so familiar.

- StepfordSam

This is what I worry about. Them holding onto players because they once again think that they are closer to competing than they really are.
Walker is looking like a great trade chip, atm, but I can also see them signing him to an extension with how he has played.
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