I would not, This way each line has a playmaker and a shooter.
- missingmike

It’s all about fit, just labeling shooter and playmaker isn’t how it works

he should be/ should have been moved. You turn a flameout onto an asset that you always talk about.
- hello it's me 2050

Doubt they’ll do it. But walker staal and seeker should all be traded for assets.

Walker would definitely fetch a 3rd round pick. However I think if Walker keeps playing like this a team would be willing to part with a 2nd round pick, especially since this draft is not as deep as last year's draft. that is what I meant by high pick.

Your continued hatred of Risto is laughable. I like Walker so far but he is no Risto!
- jd250

I'd be surprised if they got a 2nd. Saying Walker is better than Ristolainen is not hatred. It's hockey.

Brink is very good on the walls, finds soft areas, and has good offensive instincts, he’s not redundant with frost.
- ClaudeFather

when i look at the makeup of the lines, I think it is putting your best playmakers on the same line, not saying it will not work, just seems it would be better to spread them out

I mean, if nobody else is going to post it I might as well.

I get the reasoning on being in a spot to just miss the playoffs but what’s more important? Having guys like Brink, York, Tippet, Foerster, Zamula, Farabee take some steps to become closer to their full potential or getting the 5th pick in the upcoming draft rather than the 11th?
As well, to have guys like Sanheim and Hart both have their best seasons by staying healthy and becoming cornerstones going forward?
I thought at the start of the year they were a .500 team, I haven’t changed my mind. I just think that’s where they are at. A healthy Coots and Atkinson and a Konecny that looks like an 80 point winger with pest qualities of a Brad Marchand.
Simply put there young guys are to good for there to be a tank, so to me the next best thing is for further development for the kids that are already here.
- landros 2

Completely agree. Youth development and tank is oxymoronic. Especially, with the young crew we have now. Sacrificing their progression for potentially drafting Yakupov is not something I would ask the team I am rooting for to do.
Accumulating high end assets is important, but is not the main objective of the game.

I just don’t think that’s what they will do.
- landros 2

I mean, if they are in the playoffs, you really can make a case to give the team a chance, the life of a middling team.

I mean, if nobody else is going to post it I might as well.




- jsh139

hockey is the best

when i look at the makeup of the lines, I think it is putting your best playmakers on the same line, not saying it will not work, just seems it would be better to spread them out
- wcorvette

None of us really know right but Atkinson is a guy you can put with anyone and he’s going to be the same player. Look at TK, he didn’t fit well with frost and Tipp, he goes with coots and Foerester, neither a “playmaker” and is instantly better

I agree about the 20 minutes but I like the player. He's just incredibly snakebitten. He made a good strong shot on one scoring chance where the goalie made a good save. I think he's going to be a player.

Of course, I agree about Deslauriers. It's interesting that Tortorella states that he wants to get Poehling going offensively so he needs to move him up in the lineup. Versus the team's leading ES scorer from last season when he struggled for a couple of games. He gets scratched for 7 games. That's the clown that Tortorella is.
- MJL

If Forester skating doesn't improve significantly his next contract is going to be a 2-way

True but he is also a good chip to move too. Lots of playoff teams will look for 3rd pair depth.
- Pelle31Forever

For what, a 5th round pick?

Doubt they’ll do it. But walker staal and seeker should all be traded for assets.
- Peter Richards

if they are in the race and they can move them and still THINK the on ice team looks good, that would be best. If the move Seeler and Staal, for solid picks, then great. Keeping Walker, moving Seeler, staal and RR, that would be just fine. To happen, RR and Staal have to play. If they are in the hunt and want to move those D, Zam will have to be playing well or a D in the AHL needs to take a step forward, where the team feels they will fill in with not much of a drop off.

This really is a bad argument that does nothing to refute what the previous poster was saying. Nobody said every #1 overall pick wins a cup.

Elite talent does not guarantee you a cup but NOT having elite talent guarantees you WILL NOT win a cup. That elite/generational talent required to win the cup is usually only able to be obtained in the top 3-4 picks of the draft and most cup winning teams have at least 2 of those talents.

The Elite Talent is only one ingredient in the TEAM, supporting players and coaching all have a role. You need all 3 to win the cup and not all teams have all 3 ingredients and even when they do, only one team can win the cup.

The question is, do you want the Flyers to win the cup, or are you happy with a 1st round series loss?

Nobody gives a crap how bad Chicago was 20 years ago or how bad Pittsburgh tanked over the years or how many times Colorado drafted top 5. They were all just as bad as Edmonton at one point.

There was a lot of complaining about tanking when the Penguins drafted Crosby, Malkin, and Fleury. 20 years later what do people remember?

Those teams got to rewrite their history by winning cups. Nobody cares how you got there as long as you win. It's the teams that never get there that take the brunt of history and it's why Chicago is repeating a recipe that worked for them before.
- Flyers_01

You are falsely equating top 5 pick and a high end talent. There are plenty top 5 picks that are not as talented, do not have work ethics and an aptitude to succeed.

None of us really know right but Atkinson is a guy you can put with anyone and he’s going to be the same player. Look at TK, he didn’t fit well with frost and Tipp, he goes with coots and Foerester, neither a “playmaker” and is instantly better
- ClaudeFather

can try all sorts of things for sure, TK is a player to me, that needs the puck, so does Frost and Tip, why I didn't like the combo. With Coots Foerster, TK is the puck carrier.

So Ryan Poehling is the new flavor of the month?
- Tomahawk

24 year old good bottom 6 center, not sure what your gripe is here? Poehling could certainly be part of the future here.

There always seems to be a good looking, big breasted woman in a low cut shirt behind every NHL hockey bench. Do hockey arenas keep those seats open and look for hot girls to fill those seats? LOL
- Thors-Hammer

It's reserved for the "Hooters" employee of the month.

He has had a couple of good games in a row.
- landros 2

He is a good player period. He had a great camp and so far this season has played very well either as the 4C or 3C. With Cates dropping off considerably so far this year, it's a good thing the Flyers have Poehling to fall back on.

It's reserved for the "Hooters" employee of the month.
- missingmike

Nah, it’s an advertisement seat for onlyfans

if they are in the race and they can move them and still THINK the on ice team looks good, that would be best. If the move Seeler and Staal, for solid picks, then great. Keeping Walker, moving Seeler, staal and RR, that would be just fine. To happen, RR and Staal have to play. If they are in the hunt and want to move those D, Zam will have to be playing well or a D in the AHL needs to take a step forward, where the team feels they will fill in with not much of a drop off.
- wcorvette

Don’t think RR gets moved. Belpedio or Andrae could step up, or rotate some of the other kids. IMO even if in the hunt you sell.

can try all sorts of things for sure, TK is a player to me, that needs the puck, so does Frost and Tip, why I didn't like the combo. With Coots Foerster, TK is the puck carrier.
- wcorvette

And Brink is not a guy that needs the puck, he makes his subtle plays and keeps it moving

If Forester skating doesn't improve significantly his next contract is going to be a 2-way
- mr4tno

I disagree. I don't see that Foerster has a skating issue. He is not behind the play, he is on pucks and he is getting scoring chances. Foerster generates individual scoring chances for at a higher rate than Konecny does. He also plays well away from the puck. His only issue is finishing. I expect that to change.

You are falsely equating top 5 pick and a high end talent. There are plenty top 5 picks that are not as talented, do not have work ethics and an aptitude to succeed.
- missingmike

This is very true. In 2015 many players drafted in the top 20 are star players. Heck TK was draft 24th overall in 2015. It really depends on the timing of getting a top 5 pick, some drafts are much better than others.

Not sure why we have ND in the line-up when he plays 5 minutes. Last night Belpedio got torpedoed and ND immediately attempted to plant #37 into the wall. ND barely moved him and none of the other Canes were intimidated. So every other game he wrestles a fellow knuckle dragger and they spend 5 minutes in the box. We have Gordie Howe hatricks and now we have the ND line - 5 min TOI and 5 PIM....

Not sure why we have ND in the line-up when he plays 5 minutes. Last night Belpedio got torpedoed and ND immediately attempted to plant #37 into the wall. ND barely moved him and none of the other Canes were intimidated. So every other game he wrestles a fellow knuckle dragger and they spend 5 minutes in the box. We have Gordie Howe hatricks and now we have the ND line - 5 min TOI and 5 PIM....
- mr4tno

Svech is a big dude and it as just a hit thrown. Very smart of ND to not do anything dumb in a tight game like that. I can’t stand Svech, he’s quite the wiener, glad ovi knocked him out

If Forester skating doesn't improve significantly his next contract is going to be a 2-way
- mr4tno

I disagree. Foerster skates fine. His issue right now is he is squeezing his stick. However, I really feel he is playing the right way and once one puck goes in for him, a bunch more will follow.