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- Peter Richards

Then she is overdressed.

24 year old good bottom 6 center, not sure what your gripe is here? Poehling could certainly be part of the future here.
- jd250

He's not a bottom 6 center. He is at best a 4th line center and has never played a full NHL season. He had a good game last night but to this point, he has been mediocre.

I think there is a very good chance he is moved at the upcoming deadline.
- MBFlyerfan

logically yes I agree. This is the flyers.

This is very true. In 2015 many players drafted in the top 20 are star players. Heck TK was draft 24th overall in 2015. It really depends on the timing of getting a top 5 pick, some drafts are much better than others.
- jd250

You also have to be good at drafting and have an organizational philosophy the meshes with modern-day NHL. Having had Dave Brown as your head of pro scouting is all you need to know about Flyers organizational philosophy.

This is very true. In 2015 many players drafted in the top 20 are star players. Heck TK was draft 24th overall in 2015. It really depends on the timing of getting a top 5 pick, some drafts are much better than others.
- jd250

You repeatedly ad nauseum posted that the Flyers need to draft in the top 5. That the overwhelming best way to get elite talent was to draft top 5. Now you're changing your tune. Just another contradiction.

For what, a 5th round pick?
- MJL

For Seeler, if that's what the market is then you make the deal sonny. Real easy. Could have got a 4th last deadline.

Maybe Belpedio is the next seeler.

You also have to be good at drafting and have an organizational philosophy the meshes with modern-day NHL. Having had Dave Brown as your head of pro scouting is all you need to know about Flyers organizational philosophy.
- mr4tno

Dave Brown, as head of pro scouting. Is not involved in drafting. He scouts AHL and NHL players. AKA pros.

logically yes I agree. This is the flyers.
- hello it's me 2050

Cant argue with that.

In the end at best we get a 4th round pick maybe. So the argument always was, is he worth more as a 6/7 guy making league minimum who gives you way more value than the cap hit, who can be sat without worrying about his development. Over a 4th round pick that may never pan out, or be used as part of a bigger deal in the future. Both arguments have merit.

We can all agree he isnt getting a high pick or a good prospect in return.

Dave Brown, as head of pro scouting. Is not involved in drafting. He scouts AHL and NHL players. AKA pros.
- MJL

kid gloves are off

Don’t think RR gets moved. Belpedio or Andrae could step up, or rotate some of the other kids. IMO even if in the hunt you sell.
- Peter Richards

RR is a stretch, and agree on the other 2, but will the powers that be believe that, the old school in them might not.

Cant argue with that.

In the end at best we get a 4th round pick maybe. So the argument always was, is he worth more as a 6/7 guy making league minimum who gives you way more value than the cap hit, who can be sat without worrying about his development. Over a 4th round pick that may never pan out, or be used as part of a bigger deal in the future. Both arguments have merit.

We can all agree he isnt getting a high pick or a good prospect in return.
- MBFlyerfan

think with his cap hit, best case, making Seeler part of a package might get the best return. A good team, that is in the playoffs who need D depth might overpay.

Cant argue with that.

In the end at best we get a 4th round pick maybe. So the argument always was, is he worth more as a 6/7 guy making league minimum who gives you way more value than the cap hit, who can be sat without worrying about his development. Over a 4th round pick that may never pan out, or be used as part of a bigger deal in the future. Both arguments have merit.

We can all agree he isnt getting a high pick or a good prospect in return.
- MBFlyerfan

to me you 100% take the pick where they flyers are at. Then sign the next seeler if you like. Seeler was a non nhl player. Flyers have turned that into an asset. You move the asset. How you accumulate picks to take a swing.

Take that pick and use it, package , several possibilities.

Wont be shocked if he is re-signed either.

You are falsely equating top 5 pick and a high end talent. There are plenty top 5 picks that are not as talented, do not have work ethics and an aptitude to succeed.
- missingmike

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- Peter Richards

Correct.

Don’t think RR gets moved. Belpedio or Andrae could step up, or rotate some of the other kids. IMO even if in the hunt you sell.
- Peter Richards

Risto has 3 years left at $5.1m. That's not movable unless he comes back a brand new player.

I fully get that the Flyers are in a rebuild, and the winning streak will not continue... and that the goal is to morph into a constant cup contender, as the better prospects filter in over the next few seasons... but come on, guys buck up.

I came on here expecting to see an upbeat group of Flyers Fans -- hopefully not fighting amongst themselves -- basking in a stretch of good character wins... maybe even giving some props to the coaching staff that has pulled the proper strings to enable road wins against better teams... but what do I find? I find on here miserable Flyers fans enjoying themselves, doing what they love best; being Debbie Downers who are not happy unless they are miserable and complaining.

I'm not saying that we should pretend we have a playoff team that is where it should be... I'm just saying; take a breath and relax.. enjoy a team that is over achieving and actually fun to watch on a daily basis for a change... and maybe admit that Torts, with all his many faults, has the Flyers actually playing in a manner that can win games. But I suppose I seem to forget that the Flyers have all of a sudden become tankers.

Negadelphia reigns... and has crept into the once proud and honorable Flyers family of fans. Chill and support your team as it is hopefully on the upswing because it could be much worse as they could be doing all the wrong things as they continue to string together non-contending seasons... take a break and maybe discuss the good points, and enjoy the hard work, and recent decent play. Save the biatching for games were they schit the bed. 🙄 //Rant

Sorry for the lecture.. but frankly, this forum deserves one. 😒

to me you 100% take the pick where they flyers are at. Then sign the next seeler if you like. Seeler was a non nhl player. Flyers have turned that into an asset. You move the asset. How you accumulate picks to take a swing.

Take that pick and use it, package , several possibilities.

Wont be shocked if he is re-signed either.
- hello it's me 2050

What Seeler is a present is a guy who is making the league minimum who is playing, and has been playing, at a level well above what his cap hit is IMO.

I dont mean he is playing like a 5 million dollar guy, but he is playing like a guy who should have twice his cap hit.

To me, that is what sets him apart from the "next Seeler" so to speak.

That is why the argument can be made that having him here is worth more than the possible 4th round pick was last season.

This year, I would be absolutely disappointed if they dont deal him for that pick. I just feel like last season he was more valuable here. We can respectfully disagree on his value.

I fully get that the Flyers are in a rebuild, and the winning streak will not continue... and that the goal is to morph into a constant cup contender, as the better prospects filter in over the next few seasons... but come on, guys buck up.

I came on here expecting to see an upbeat group of Flyers Fans -- hopefully not fighting amongst themselves -- basking in a stretch of good character wins... maybe even giving some props to the coaching staff that has pulled the proper strings to enable road wins against better teams... but what do I find? I find on here miserable Flyers fans enjoying themselves, doing what they love best; being Debbie Downers who are not happy unless they are miserable and complaining.

I'm not saying that we should pretend we have a playoff team that is where it should be... I'm just saying; take a breath and relax.. enjoy a team that is over achieving and actually fun to watch on a daily basis for a change... and maybe admit that Torts, with all his many faults, has the Flyers actually playing in a manner that can win games. But I suppose I seem to forget that the Flyers have all of a sudden become tankers.

Negadelphia reigns... and has crept into the once proud and honorable Flyers family of fans. Chill and support your team as it is hopefully on the upswing because it could be much worse as they could be doing all the wrong things as they continue to string together non-contending seasons... take a break and maybe discuss the good points, and enjoy the hard work, and recent decent play. Save the biatching for games were they schit the bed. 🙄 //Rant

Sorry for the lecture.. but frankly, this forum deserves one. 😒
- ForeverFlyer16

tell it to your priest

Than she is overdressed.
- missingmike

either way...guessing she wants the money.

I fully get that the Flyers are in a rebuild, and the winning streak will not continue... and that the goal is to morph into a constant cup contender, as the better prospects filter in over the next few seasons... but come on, guys buck up.

I came on here expecting to see an upbeat group of Flyers Fans -- hopefully not fighting amongst themselves -- basking in a stretch of good character wins... maybe even giving some props to the coaching staff that has pulled the proper strings to enable road wins against better teams... but what do I find? I find on here miserable Flyers fans enjoying themselves, doing what they love best; being Debbie Downers who are not happy unless they are miserable and complaining.

I'm not saying that we should pretend we have a playoff team that is where it should be... I'm just saying; take a breath and relax.. enjoy a team that is over achieving and actually fun to watch on a daily basis for a change... and maybe admit that Torts, with all his many faults, has the Flyers actually playing in a manner that can win games. But I suppose I seem to forget that the Flyers have all of a sudden become tankers.

Negadelphia reigns... and has crept into the once proud and honorable Flyers family of fans. Chill and support your team as it is hopefully on the upswing because it could be much worse as they could be doing all the wrong things as they continue to string together non-contending seasons... take a break and maybe discuss the good points, and enjoy the hard work, and recent decent play. Save the biatching for games were they schit the bed. 🙄 //Rant

Sorry for the lecture.. but frankly, this forum deserves one. 😒
- ForeverFlyer16

Hi ff16. To my surprise, I’ve very much enjoyed this season so far. The sense of relief I had when chuck was canned I won’t soon forget. I think that we are on the right path now. There’s a few actions that I think are needed but there’s definite hope with the young players in the lineup and on the way. If Danny makes some shrewd moves at the tdl to fleece some teams of picks and young nhl players or prospects close to the nhl, then drafts big on dmen, I’m hopeful that we can be right back into the mix in the next 3 years. Not the 5 to 7 year window that some expect.

The team is working hard and doing well imo. I always cheer for them to win. Im not wired in a way to want them to lose. I will say that the pp is as bad as I’ve ever seen it. Omg how do we fix that mess. Happy with the rest so far.

to me you 100% take the pick where they flyers are at. Then sign the next seeler if you like. Seeler was a non nhl player. Flyers have turned that into an asset. You move the asset. How you accumulate picks to take a swing.

Take that pick and use it, package , several possibilities.

Wont be shocked if he is re-signed either.
- hello it's me 2050

he's played well so far this season. last year was a career year for him. agree. take the asset. sign another similar, rinse and repeat. the more assets the faster/better this rebuild will be.

funny how everyone makes 3-5th round picks unimportant.

I fully get that the Flyers are in a rebuild, and the winning streak will not continue... and that the goal is to morph into a constant cup contender, as the better prospects filter in over the next few seasons... but come on, guys buck up.

I came on here expecting to see an upbeat group of Flyers Fans -- hopefully not fighting amongst themselves -- basking in a stretch of good character wins... maybe even giving some props to the coaching staff that has pulled the proper strings to enable road wins against better teams... but what do I find? I find on here miserable Flyers fans enjoying themselves, doing what they love best; being Debbie Downers who are not happy unless they are miserable and complaining.

I'm not saying that we should pretend we have a playoff team that is where it should be... I'm just saying; take a breath and relax.. enjoy a team that is over achieving and actually fun to watch on a daily basis for a change... and maybe admit that Torts, with all his many faults, has the Flyers actually playing in a manner that can win games. But I suppose I seem to forget that the Flyers have all of a sudden become tankers.

Negadelphia reigns... and has crept into the once proud and honorable Flyers family of fans. Chill and support your team as it is hopefully on the upswing because it could be much worse as they could be doing all the wrong things as they continue to string together non-contending seasons... take a break and maybe discuss the good points, and enjoy the hard work, and recent decent play. Save the biatching for games were they schit the bed. 🙄 //Rant

Sorry for the lecture.. but frankly, this forum deserves one. 😒
- ForeverFlyer16

Why should I cheer on the Hextall plan again after it failed miserable just 5 years ago? If you can tell me what’s going to be different this time, I would happily get excited? But to sell me the same thing back again with the pretty much the same amateur scouting department in place, I have a hard time not being negative. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.

So Gretzky said he would probably not play for Torts, he prefers a more O minded coach, he believes Torts prefers D and it was mentioned Briere has pushed Torts to promote a more O approach.

Ok they can wait around a hope a #1 center or dman becomes available in trade but then the Flyers will have to have a better package then 31 other teams and the cap space to do the deal.

Or they can just actually rebuild and draft one at the top of the draft. Which way is easier to pull off?
- psuhockey

The problem is they are tied to some good players who have immovable contracts… they have a bunch of guys drafted in the first round that are decent or becoming decent players. Yes they lack that elite C and that elite D… I just don’t think there is a logical way to get to where you want them to go. Is it a true tear down rebuild ? No… and with where they were at the start of the Torts era… it was never going to be.

I disagree. Foerster skates fine. His issue right now is he is squeezing his stick. However, I really feel he is playing the right way and once one puck goes in for him, a bunch more will follow.
- jd250

Agree 100%