In a couple years, when he's ready, Mitts, Krebs, Olo, Girgs, Okposo, Greenway, Jost and unfortunately Tuch, may all be gone. There's going to be room for these kids IF they get there. We'll see Kulich and Rosen next year, Benson is already here. So we'll have him and Savoie to either use as trade chips or replace the production of one of the above.

Skinner Tage Quinn
Peterka Cozens Benson
Savoie Kulich Rosen
Big MF Murrrrrrrrrrrrr Wahlberg Cederqvist?

You could have a new kids line if you wanted. But that top9 is going to be able to produce some goals, that's for sure. Leaves a lot of cap to add a RHD and resign everyone necessary.

And in all seriousness, by then, if we have this many ELCs working, you can take on a couple higher priced defensive forwards to replace guys like Murr and Cederqvist if you want. Really just depends on defensive spending.
- QuinnFan

Do you honestly believe that's a cup contending roster?

Maybe. They have no prospects of real value. But they're also trying to win and aren't willing to make that kind of sacrifice.

So while the value favors the Knights, they would say no.
- TheSabresTaco

Those players are at the top of the league in respect to the roles they play, Vegas wins the potential in the deal but the Sabres on ice product improves in reality tremendously.

Do you honestly believe that's a cup contending roster?
- washedup20

Cup contending, no, playoff spot ensured, yes. I imagine we'll see a better 4th line than that, but just wanted to show more of how this thing could open up very quickly. Personally, at this point I'd like to keep Mitts and Tuch, which changes the complexion substantially, but then you just end up with more upgrades through trading the kids.

Skinner Pettersson Tuch
Peterka Tage Quinn
Savoie Mitts Rosen
Hathaway Wahlberg Cederqvist

I think you could see something like this, because eventually we can start big game hunting. Cozens+Benson+Kulich is a good start to an EP package, as an example. Doesn't mean he's the guy, but you could definitely upgrade any position in your top6 pretty easily.

Same holes in the Sabres roster now as back then. We know this.
- washedup20

Holes were different, place in the league was different, expectations were different.

Those players are at the top of the league in respect to the roles they play, Vegas wins the potential in the deal but the Sabres on ice product improves in reality tremendously.
- washedup20

The offer didn't work for them then and it definitely wouldn't work for them now.

Would I make that trade for Buffalo? Yes.

Cup contending, no, playoff spot ensured, yes. I imagine we'll see a better 4th line than that, but just wanted to show more of how this thing could open up very quickly. Personally, at this point I'd like to keep Mitts and Tuch, which changes the complexion substantially, but then you just end up with more upgrades through trading the kids.

Skinner Pettersson Tuch
Peterka Tage Quinn
Savoie Mitts Rosen
Hathaway Wahlberg Cederqvist

I think you could see something like this, because eventually we can start big game hunting. Cozens+Benson+Kulich is a good start to an EP package, as an example. Doesn't mean he's the guy, but you could definitely upgrade any position in your top6 pretty easily.
- QuinnFan

That's improved and enticing.

The offer didn't work for them then and it definitely wouldn't work for them now.

Would I make that trade for Buffalo? Yes.
- TheSabresTaco

Agreed.

By the way, in California you have to dial 1 for English.
- mes418

Holes were different, place in the league was different, expectations were different.
- TheSabresTaco

Top 4 RD
Goalie
Complimentary Bottom 6 player with some grit and Skill
Seems these have Been that Same areas of need for awhile.

Same holes in the Sabres roster now as back then. We know this.
- washedup20

goalie
d man to play with dahlin
4th line
3rd line winger that is good on pk

That's improved and enticing.
- washedup20

EP is probably a long shot, even with a lot of trade chips stacked up over here. That being said, a position of need can be upgraded easily. Just have to pull the trigger when the next disgruntled superstar wants out.

Holes were different, place in the league was different, expectations were different.
- TheSabresTaco

they dont expect to do sh!t now, just like 2 years ago

this team is not going to compete in april or may

there is zero accountability with this franchise

the gm has no accountability nor the coach nor the players

Do you honestly believe that's a cup contending roster?
- washedup20

honestly it'd be very similar to the 07 sabres. so if they have a ryan miller, probably yes.

EP is probably a long shot, even with a lot of trade chips stacked up over here.That being said, a position of need can be upgraded easily. Just have to pull the trigger when the next disgruntled superstar wants out.
- QuinnFan

I don't think the Sabres make anything easy, even with the best package, a NMC could end it. Action is needed to kick start whatever plan they have now, who is going to be the spark plug for this organization...currently it's not the GM.

honestly it'd be very similar to the 07 sabres. so if they have a ryan miller, probably yes.
- robz228

I disagree, the 07/08 roster had much better balance and significantly better depth and toughness. The potential of the players now might match the skill back then, but they don't have the support that allows them to play freely.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332008.html

I don't think the Sabres make anything easy, even with the best package, a NMC could end it. Action is needed to kick start whatever plan they have now, who is going to be the spark plug for this organization...currently it's not the GM.
- washedup20

relax they have a plan


2 more lottery picks

I disagree, the 07/08 roster had much better balance and significantly better depth and toughness. The potential of the players now might match the skill back then, but they don't have the support that allows them to play freely.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332008.html
- washedup20

that team missed the playoffs as well

honestly it'd be very similar to the 07 sabres. so if they have a ryan miller, probably yes.
- robz228

Better find some Heart and better Dman

that team missed the playoffs as well
- homiedclown

So you're saying more "Learning", "Time" and " Patience" is involved ?

So you're saying more "Learning", "Time" and " Patience" is involved ?
- SABRES 89

we are only 2 or 3 years away from having a chance for a playoff spot

that team missed the playoffs as well
- homiedclown

My statement holds true for the 06/07 team as well.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332007.html

we are only 2 or 3 years away from having a chance for a playoff spot
- homiedclown

I don't think folks realize how much "power" Adams and the Meatball have with this organization.

Would you have traded the 16th overall pick in 22' back to Vegas for Whitecloud and Kolesar?
- washedup20

No but I would have traded both that pick and the 2nd we got in a deal for Chiquorin the Licorice man.

I disagree, the 07/08 roster had much better balance and significantly better depth and toughness. The potential of the players now might match the skill back then, but they don't have the support that allows them to play freely.

https://www.hockeydb.com/...ons/teams/0000332008.html
- washedup20

im talking about 06/07

gaustad is a nice piece

other than that, whats the toughness? hecht? mair's role doesnt exist in the nhl anymore. peters didnt play in the playoffs

shoutout to adam mair for having 11 points in 82 games in the regular season then 5 in 10 in the playoffs