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Jet Jaguar BD
Seattle Kraken
Location: BD look đź‘€ at you pic and you look like a burned out short order cook hiding in mommy basement!!
Joined: 07.17.2021

Nov 23 @ 9:01 AM ET
Evidence Adams doesn’t know how to identify leadership
- washedup20

He doesn’t even know how to identify his (frank)ing hairline, let alone where the clit might be.
ieetbred
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.30.2011

Nov 23 @ 9:06 AM ET
Perhaps adams can have 21 and 28 over for the BBQ today

We've seen the results with UPL
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 23 @ 9:30 AM ET
Plenty of evidence to conclude Adams doesn’t know how to identify toughness.
- washedup20


Stillman was put on queer st after his battle with Jeannot last year, same for Cozens in his beatdown against Hathaway. I give a little credit to Greenway for taking on Wilson… at least he was able to skate away under his own power. Clifton, from the few times I’ve seen him scrap, can handle himself pretty well.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Nov 23 @ 9:37 AM ET
Stillman was put on queer st after his battle with Jeannot last year, same for Cozens in his beatdown against Hathaway. I give a little credit to Greenway for taking on Wilson… at least he was able to skate away under his own power. Clifton, from the few times I’ve seen him scrap, can handle himself pretty well.
- Cory1


Toughness, while includes fighting, is a broad term.

Mental toughness, preparation, discipline, consistency, the little things needed each shift to win the play. Tough conversations, that’s missing.

Adams captain’s proudest tangible legacy is about how nice they all talk to each other.

Can’t close out games, haven’t won a meaningful game anytime the pressure turns up.

No opponent fears playing Buffalo, they don’t fear their skill, size, speed, special teams nothing. The current identity of the Sabres is young and soft. They need to become tenacious but every game looks like they are just going through the motions.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 9:46 AM ET
so we are roughly 1/4 of the way into the season

which teams are we better than in the East right now?

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
I've been pressing 1 for days now and I get nothing.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 9:57 AM ET
I've been pressing 1 for days now and I get nothing.
- SABRES 89

oh my
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 23 @ 10:04 AM ET
oh my
- homiedclown

I'll keep trying
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
I'll keep trying
- SABRES 89

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 10:15 AM ET
ramsey 1 tackle 2 ints afc d player of the week

douglas 4 tackles 2 ints and 1 fumble recovery, no player of the week

gilliam got afc special teams player of the week though
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
Stillman was put on queer st after his battle with Jeannot last year, same for Cozens in his beatdown against Hathaway. I give a little credit to Greenway for taking on Wilson… at least he was able to skate away under his own power. Clifton, from the few times I’ve seen him scrap, can handle himself pretty well.
- Cory1


Clifton beat up Krebs
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
You guys are late. Turkey day was last month.

Its fvckin Ham season
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Nov 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
If I am any NHL gm. I start making offers for Mcdavid and see if the oilers hang up or actually listen
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
If I am any NHL gm. I start making offers for Mcdavid and see if the oilers hang up or actually listen
- Sabretooth9


They arent trading him until they're forced to.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 23 @ 11:36 AM ET
You guys are late. Turkey day was last month.

Its fvckin Ham season

- DirtyDan

Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 23 @ 11:42 AM ET
Clifton beat up Krebs
- Boss34


True- I remember Clifton fighting someone last year, knew it was either Krebs or Cozens. I seriously wonder what the feeling is like in the locker room when teams play the Sabres. They know there will be no pushback or even retaliation. If a Sabre does decide to drop the gloves, we’ve all seen the outcome. A player like Deslauriers was a gutsy, tough player who was well respected within the Sabres as well the league. Teams would be less likely to take the liberties they do if we had Nic on the bench. Offers a helluva lot more than 21, 28 etc..
Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY
Joined: 10.10.2015

Nov 23 @ 11:43 AM ET

- homiedclown



That is never not funny.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:44 AM ET
You guys are late. Turkey day was last month.

Its fvckin Ham season

- DirtyDan

Thanksgiving in the US is traditionally a time for family and food.

American schoolchildren typically learn that the tradition dates back to the Pilgrims, who helped establish Plymouth Colony in 1620 in what is now Massachusetts.

As the story goes, friendly Native Americans taught the struggling colonists how to survive in what the Europeans called the New World. Then everyone got together to celebrate with a feast in 1621.

Thanksgiving 2022 would mark the 401st anniversary of that "first" American Thanksgiving. But, in reality, Thanksgiving feasts predate Plymouth, and the peace celebrated that day was tenuous.



The real story behind the holiday is so dark, in fact, that some people are rethinking how they celebrate the holiday, or whether they should at all.

A group of school kids gather at the statue of Massasoit, "Great Sachem of the Wampanoag's," on the hill overlooking Plymouth Rock and the harbor.
Schoolchildren at the statue of Massasoit, "Great Sachem of the Wampanoags," on the hill overlooking Plymouth Rock and the harbor. Tom Herde/The Boston Globe via
The Plymouth Thanksgiving of 1621 wasn't the first
Settlers in Berkeley Hundred, in what is now Virginia, celebrated their arrival with a Thanksgiving as far back as 1619, according to National Geographic. But The Washingtonian reported the meal was probably little more than some oysters and ham thrown together.

Decades before that, Spanish settlers and members of the Seloy tribe broke bread in Florida with salted pork, garbanzo beans, and a Mass in 1565, according to the National Parks Service.

Our modern definition of Thanksgiving revolves around eating turkey, but this was more of an occasion for religious observance in past centuries. The Pilgrims would most likely consider their sober 1623 day of prayer the first actual Thanksgiving, according to the History of Massachusetts Blog.


Others pinpoint 1637 as the true origin of Thanksgiving, since the Massachusetts Bay Colony's governor, John Winthrop, declared a day to celebrate colonial soldiers who had just slaughtered hundreds of Pequot men, women, and children in what is now Mystic, Connecticut.

Regardless, the popular telling of the initial harvest festival is what lived on, thanks to Abraham Lincoln.

The enduring holiday has also nearly erased from our collective memory what happened between the Wampanoag and the English just one generation later.


The Thanksgiving 'peace' didn't last
Massasoit, the Wampanoag paramount chief, allied with the English settlers after Plymouth was established and fought with the newcomers against the French and other local tribes. But the alliance became strained over time.



As thousands more English colonists moved to Plymouth, taking over more land, authorities asserted control over "most aspects of Wampanoag life," according to the book "Historic Contact: Indian People and Colonists in Today's Northeastern United States."

A study published in the journal Quaternary Science Reviews estimated that disease had already reduced the New England Indigenous population by 90% by 1620. The Wampanoag continued to die from what the colonists called "Indian fever," an unknown disease brought by early European settlers.

A drawing of Massasoit meeting with Gov. John Carver with other men nearby.
A drawing by H.L. Stevens of Massasoit meeting with Gov. John Carver in front of other North American men. Drawn by H.L. Stevens/engraved by Augustus Robin/Corbis/Getty Images
By the time Massasoit's son, Metacomet — who was known to the English as "King Philip" — inherited leadership, relations had frayed. His men were executed for the murder of the Punkapoag interpreter and Christian convert John Sassamon, sparking King Philip's War.

Wampanoag warriors responded with raids, and the New England Confederation of Colonies declared war in 1675. The war was bloody and devastating.



In an article published in the Historical Journal of Massachusetts, the Montclair State University professor Robert E. Cray Jr. said the death toll could have been up to 30% of the English population and half of the Native Americans in New England.

The colonial assault on the Narragansetts' fort in the Great Swamp Fight in December 1675 during King Philip's War, aka First Indian War, Metacom's War, Metacomet's War, or Metacom's Rebellion. From The History of Our Country, published 1899
The colonial assault on the Narragansett fort in the Great Swamp Fight in December 1675. Universal History Archive/Universal Images Group via Getty Images
Metacomet was beheaded and dismembered, according to "It Happened in Rhode Island," and the colonists impaled his head on a spike to display for 25 years.

The war was just one of a series of brutal but dimly remembered early conflicts between Native Americans and colonists in New England, New York, and Virginia.

The holiday's dark past has some people rethinking Thanksgiving
The focus on racial justice in the US has some people saying that reevaluating the meaning and celebration of Thanksgiving is long overdue.



Teachers, professors, and Native Americans told The New York Times in 2020 that they were rethinking the holiday that has marginalized the US's violence and cruelty against Native Americans, giving it names like "Takesgiving" and "The Thanksgiving Massacre."

And reflections on Thanksgiving are not new. According to the New York Post, the United American Indians of New England have been publicly mourning on Thanksgiving for decades.

Frank James, an Aquinnah Wampanoag activist who helped establish a National Day of Mourning in 1970, called the Wampanoag's welcoming of the English settlers "perhaps our biggest mistake," The Washington Post reported.

On the National Day of Mourning, Native Americans gather in Plymouth, Massachusetts, for a day of remembrance for the millions of Indigenous people who were killed by European colonists. Prayers and speeches take place accompanied by beating drums before participants march through the Plymouth Historic District.



"Participants in National Day of Mourning honor Native ancestors and the struggles of Native peoples to survive today," the commemorating plaque at Cole's Hill in Plymouth says, in part. "It is a day of remembrance and spiritual connection as well as a protest of the racism and oppression which Native Americans continue to experience."
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:47 AM ET
True- I remember Clifton fighting someone last year, knew it was either Krebs or Cozens. I seriously wonder what the feeling is like in the locker room when teams play the Sabres. They know there will be no pushback or even retaliation. If a Sabre does decide to drop the gloves, we’ve all seen the outcome. A player like Deslauriers was a gutsy, tough player who was well respected within the Sabres as well the league. Teams would be less likely to take the liberties they do if we had Nic on the bench. Offers a helluva lot more than 21, 28 etc..
- Cory1



I miss that Krebs
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Nov 23 @ 11:51 AM ET
Toughness, while includes fighting, is a broad term.

Mental toughness, preparation, discipline, consistency, the little things needed each shift to win the play. Tough conversations, that’s missing.

Adams captain’s proudest tangible legacy is about how nice they all talk to each other.

Can’t close out games, haven’t won a meaningful game anytime the pressure turns up.

No opponent fears playing Buffalo, they don’t fear their skill, size, speed, special teams nothing. The current identity of the Sabres is young and soft. They need to become tenacious but every game looks like they are just going through the motions.

- washedup20

Tenacity and conviction.
I’ll add those as well. Doesn’t mean you are out to punch a guys face off. It means we are hated and hard to play against.
Very true
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:53 AM ET
Send Levi to AHL
Waive Olofsson
Bring up Kulich & Rosen

Skinner - Mittlestadt - Tuch
Benson - Cozens - Peterka
Krebs - Kulich - Rosen
Greenway - Jost - Okposo
Girgensons

Dahlin - Samuelsson
Power - Clifton
R.Johnson - Jokiharju
E. Johnson


when Quinn is healthy drop Krebs or Jost and put Quinn in Krebs slot
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 23 @ 11:55 AM ET


I miss that Krebs

- homiedclown


I get it, but honestly… he offers little value beyond his energy. The entire bottom 6 needs a complete overhaul. Maybe Krebs becomes a decent third line center with decent wingers…. I just don’t see it and the sample size is telling enough to move on. This team is like the TinMan… absolutely no heart or nuts
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 23 @ 11:56 AM ET
I get it, but honestly… he offers little value beyond his energy. The entire bottom 6 needs a complete overhaul. Maybe Krebs becomes a decent third line center with decent wingers…. I just don’t see it and the sample size is telling enough to move on. This team is like the TinMan… absolutely no heart or nuts
- Cory1

it's tough for krebs when playing with girgens and okposo
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Nov 23 @ 12:04 PM ET
it's tough for krebs when playing with girgens and okposo
- homiedclown


Guys had all the chances this year. He moves up the lineup and gets better wingers and still shows nothing other than a few good passes.

No shot, no hands. Hes a very basic Mittlestadt.

At least hes learned how to win a faceoff.
Cory1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 11.13.2016

Nov 23 @ 12:07 PM ET
it's tough for krebs when playing with girgens and okposo
- homiedclown


Agreed- that is the only reason he still might deserve a real chance with actual talent on his line. If he could develop into a reliable, defensive center who can chip in offensively…. That would obviously be a huge turnaround for everyone involved. There should be ample opportunity for guys to win spots on lines 3-4 very soon
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