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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
They are basically the same team as last year with maybe worse goaltending. Klingberg was a horrible signing and they just don’t have the d to overcome crap goaltending. I suspect they’ll lose first round again. Definition of insanity really. With nylander emerging, maybe you try to flip marner and a puck for an impact dman.

.. now the oilers, that’s a first class mess. If they don’t get it going soon, they’ll miss the playoffs altogether. Apprently the new coach can’t play goal.

- Hextall271

They are considerably worse defensive team than the year prior. None of the additions he had made helped in that area
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
It was a legal play with the stance the receiver making the "pick" took.

We regularly discuss the Eagles as well as other sports on here. You're new here so perhaps instead of telling others what they should stick to. Try and fit in and go with the flow.

- MJL

yet in your next sentence you do just that.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
I get fatigue fugues from the bombardment of "I have a keyboard and something to say" guys.
My observations are attuned to yours.
I'm having some fun! In and of itself, that is a reward for being patient when it wasn't fun.
A lack of tedium is all I ask. I believe the team is earnest.
The removal of a couple of overpaid sloths has improved my disposition toward the club.
The team uses stickwork a lot as they are not an oversized group. They appear to be good at this. The shorter passes (especially around their goal) are reflecting a growing confidence in each other and a solid base to construct the rest of the play.
Sometimes they are a little too aggressive and the resultant errors can be egregious. This is not a bad symptom of a poor system but the effect of one that is growing. Make your mistakes, learn, improve. That seems to be the situation now.

- Pompous


For a couple years now the team was unwatchable. Now I really enjoy seeing them play as they seem to be competitive. I expect them to miss the playoffs for sure but the key is helping the kids develop and learn how to achieve success. Losing every game in a tank scenario might get you the first overall pick but it does nothing to help build the confidence of young players on the current roster. See where we land, make a couple good trades, vets for prospects and picks at the tdl, draft a few good dmen in the early rounds and see where we are. Of note, it’s fun to see some so called contenders struggle as desperate teams tend to make bad trades. If db plays his hand correctly, we could expedite the rebuild.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
They are considerably worse defensive team than the year prior. None of the additions he had made helped in that area
- ClaudeFather


Basically rolled out the same team with no good additions of supporting cast. Oops.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
There are definitely some better teams that do exactly that.
I’d prefer to have a guy like Tom Wilson…I’m sure most teams would. A guy that can fill that roll and play useful minutes. They are far and few between. Looking through the rosters almost every team has some guys that fill that roll….are all these teams wrong? Are all the decision makers wrong …no because they know full well the importance of the roll.
Sure some don’t have legit heavy weights or a guy like ND, but which teams are you referring to? There’s a reason why a guy like Patrick Maroon has his name on the cup 3 years in a row.

- landros 2

comparing maroon to ND is so off base. He has 3 cups because he is a solid player who contributes.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Nov 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Stop the NAK nonsense
- ClaudeFather

NAK rules.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
They are considerably worse defensive team than the year prior. None of the additions he had made helped in that area
- ClaudeFather


They are considerably worse defensively then last year. They're also in a top 3 spot in their division and in the top 10 in the NHL. If they can clean up defensively, they'll be in a good spot.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
They are considerably worse defensively then last year. They're also in a top 3 spot in their division and in the top 10 in the NHL. If they can clean up defensively, they'll be in a good spot.
- MJL

They need considerable help to be in a good spot. If you haven’t paid attention, the regular season hasn’t been their issue and yet they somehow look worse in the regular season this year than years past. It’s looking like another early exit for them in the spring.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
For a couple years now the team was unwatchable. Now I really enjoy seeing them play as they seem to be competitive. I expect them to miss the playoffs for sure but the key is helping the kids develop and learn how to achieve success. Losing every game in a tank scenario might get you the first overall pick but it does nothing to help build the confidence of young players on the current roster. See where we land, make a couple good trades, vets for prospects and picks at the tdl, draft a few good dmen in the early rounds and see where we are. Of note, it’s fun to see some so called contenders struggle as desperate teams tend to make bad trades. If db plays his hand correctly, we could expedite the rebuild.
- Hextall271


As of right now, the Flyers have positioned themselves for a legitimate shot at the playoffs. The coach has all but confirmed that the rebuild is secondary to winning. Unless they fall on their face and the team philosophy changes. I don't see them unloading players. They may not be a buyer but might not be a seller either.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
They are considerably worse defensively then last year. They're also in a top 3 spot in their division and in the top 10 in the NHL. If they can clean up defensively, they'll be in a good spot.
- MJL


Agreed. In a great spot for another first round loss. When things tighten up down the stretch and into the playoffs and they can't defend/goaltend they are going to be toast.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:37 AM ET
They need considerable help to be in a good spot. If you haven’t paid attention, the regular season hasn’t been their issue and yet they somehow look worse in the regular season this year than years past. It’s looking like another early exit for them in the spring.
- ClaudeFather


They're already in a good spot. I've always seen depth as their issue.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 21 @ 10:38 AM ET
They're already in a good spot. I've always seen depth as their issue.
- MJL

You and everyone else bud. Laughable you think they are in a good spot. Year what of this core 4 and this might be the worst version of the team yet. Great spot 😂
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:39 AM ET
You and everyone else bud. Laughable you think they are in a good spot. Year what of this core 4 and this might be the worst version of the team yet. Great spot 😂
- ClaudeFather


How is it laughable that I think they're in a good spot to make the playoffs? Isn't that the goal in the regular season? What in the hell are you talking about, bud?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:40 AM ET
As of right now, the Flyers have positioned themselves for a legitimate shot at the playoffs. The coach has all but confirmed that the rebuild is secondary to winning. Unless they fall on their face and the team philosophy changes. I don't see them unloading players. They may not be a buyer but might not be a seller either.
- MJL


I think they'll be on the outside looking in come the TDL and they should listen to offers for some of the vets to see if they can expedite the rebuild.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
How is it laughable that I think they're in a good spot to make the playoffs? Isn't that the goal in the regular season? What in the hell are you talking about, bud?

- MJL

No one on here was questioning if they would make playoffs bub. As usual the goal posts change when MJL is backed into a corner
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
They need considerable help to be in a good spot. If you haven’t paid attention, the regular season hasn’t been their issue and yet they somehow look worse in the regular season this year than years past. It’s looking like another early exit for them in the spring.
- ClaudeFather


I'd be shocked if they didn't lose first round this year. I'd love to see them miss, but I think they'll make it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
I think they'll be on the outside looking in come the TDL and they should listen to offers for some of the vets to see if they can expedite the rebuild.
- Hextall271


They might be but I don't think what most want to happen is going to happen. They're focused on winning.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
I'd be shocked if they didn't lose first round this year. I'd love to see them miss, but I think they'll make it.
- Hextall271

Yea same. Now captain know it all is changing his tune, laughable. Like anyone was talking about the leafs making the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:43 AM ET
No one on here was questioning if they would make playoffs bub. As usual the goal posts change when MJL is backed into a corner
- ClaudeFather


You're being pathetic and making a fool of yourself bub. As usual. How am I backed into a corner exactly?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:44 AM ET
comparing maroon to ND is so off base. He has 3 cups because he is a solid player who contributes.
- hello it's me 2050


But he provides that roll. Yes he does a better job and is a better player, but the premis is those guys aren’t needed or warranted. My view is that is BS. If I’m wrong why do most if not all teams have those guys? And Further…simply ask the players…current or former.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:45 AM ET
Yea same. Now captain know it all is changing his tune, laughable. Like anyone was talking about the leafs making the playoffs.
- ClaudeFather


My feeling is well known that they have needed a shakeup with the big four core. Noone is taking Tavares and you don't move Matthews. SO that leaves Marner and Nylander. If Nylander is your better player now, see what you can get for Marner. Also, just because you pay Reilley as a true stud #1 dman, doesn't mean that he is. Without a better d corps and some modicum of goaltending, they won't be able to outscore their mistakes come playoffs. I can't believe that management has never seen this. Maybe there's no trade to be made..
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
My feeling is well known that they have needed a shakeup with the big four core. Noone is taking Tavares and you don't move Matthews. SO that leaves Marner and Nylander. If Nylander is your better player now, see what you can get for Marner. Also, just because you pay Reilley as a true stud #1 dman, doesn't mean that he is. Without a better d corps and some modicum of goaltending, they won't be able to outscore their mistakes come playoffs. I can't believe that management has never seen this. Maybe there's no trade to be made..
- Hextall271


Marner is one of the top 10 players in the league in my opinion. I agree they're too top heavy and they need to improve their defense and depth. I wouldn't do it by trading Marner though unless a player on the level of Makar or Fox was the return and I don't see that happening.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 21 @ 10:47 AM ET
My feeling is well known that they have needed a shakeup with the big four core. Noone is taking Tavares and you don't move Matthews. SO that leaves Marner and Nylander. If Nylander is your better player now, see what you can get for Marner. Also, just because you pay Reilley as a true stud #1 dman, doesn't mean that he is. Without a better d corps and some modicum of goaltending, they won't be able to outscore their mistakes come playoffs. I can't believe that management has never seen this. Maybe there's no trade to be made..
- Hextall271

Marner was the teams best player last year though. Willy is obviously a great player too and leading the charge this season. Some tough decisions need to be made there. At least Domi and klingberg are one year deals. Team like that has to really hate the salary cap lol
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Nov 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
Isle/Rangers/Isle, by the close of Saturday, we will know a little more about these Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
Isle/Rangers/Isle, by the close of Saturday, we will know a little more about these Flyers.
- wcorvette


The Islanders have been struggling and aren't very good offensively. I don't see the Isles as a superior team to the Flyers at this point.
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