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dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
Per Travis Yost and Frank Seravalli, Jacob Markstrom is being traded to the Devils.
- vlongo4419


Bahl and 2025 1st

Not sure if this is the best move
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Per Travis Yost and Frank Seravalli, Jacob Markstrom is being traded to the Devils.
- vlongo4419


Full trade:

Devils acquire Jacob Markstrom(31.25% salary retention, 4.125M cap hit)

Flames acquire Kevin Bahl and a 2025 1st round pick(top 10 protected)
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:34 PM ET
Markstrom Allen combo isn't the worst but markstrom isn't getting any younger and feels like a stop gap

Luckily it isn't 10th overall this year and devil's need to improve in other areas

I wonder what the D plans are

Hamilton
Nemec
Hughes
Marino
Siegenthaler

vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:38 PM ET
So surprised Calgary retained that much and that's all we gave up. Tidy bit of business for Fitz. Let's see what else hes gonna do over the next few weeks.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 12:39 PM ET
Markstrom Allen combo isn't the worst but markstrom isn't getting any younger and feels like a stop gap

Luckily it isn't 10th overall this year and devil's need to improve in other areas

I wonder what the D plans are

Hamilton
Nemec
Hughes
Marino
Siegenthaler

- dmarsden2988


Brenden Dillon is someone they're being linked to. Definitely going to add a vet left handed D with size imo. Still wouldn't be surprised if one of Siegs/Marino are moved out as well. Fitz certainly looking to retool the roster.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
He’s freaking 34 and a half years old. This is when athletes typically retire. He’s an average starting goalie entering the worst stage of his career, and we give up a 1st for him. The only saving (lol pun) grace is that it’s top 10 protected.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 19 @ 1:38 PM ET
He’s freaking 34 and a half years old. This is when athletes typically retire. He’s an average starting goalie entering the worst stage of his career, and we give up a 1st for him. The only saving (lol pun) grace is that it’s top 10 protected.
- MartysBetter88

It’s a horrible trade but I knew they were getting him when during the season Brodeur was asked who his top 5 goalies were in the league and he listed markstrom.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 19 @ 1:43 PM ET
This was a knee jerk trade from Fitz... to save his job... It was nothing more than a patchwork for a yr or two. Hes gonna do anything to guarantee a playoff spot
Id imagine our 2025 pick will be 20 -30 so no loss there.

Good trade, we get a good enough goalie to get us into the playoffs. Gave up no noticebale roster player.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:01 PM ET
This was a knee jerk trade from Fitz... to save his job... It was nothing more than a patchwork for a yr or two. Hes gonna do anything to guarantee a playoff spot
Id imagine our 2025 pick will be 20 -30 so no loss there.

Good trade, we get a good enough goalie to get us into the playoffs. Gave up no noticebale roster player.

- Leniwm1


Yep, essentially gave up nothing of value while getting a good chunk of retention. There's nothing to dislike about the trade outside of his age(Bobrovsky is literally older and playing in back to back finals). We held onto all of our valuable assets to still potentially make more moves, we get a true starting goalie for the next 2 years, and we now have a 2 year window to allow one of Daws/Schmid/Poulter/Malek to actually develop into an NHL-caliber goalie.

Bahl is nothing more than 6/7 D and plays like he's 5'7 instead of 6'7, and the 1st is likely going to be in the 20s. Even the biggest Devils doomsayers out there who like to complain for no reason like the trade.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 19 @ 2:33 PM ET
Yep, essentially gave up nothing of value while getting a good chunk of retention. There's nothing to dislike about the trade outside of his age(Bobrovsky is literally older and playing in back to back finals). We held onto all of our valuable assets to still potentially make more moves, we get a true starting goalie for the next 2 years, and we now have a 2 year window to allow one of Daws/Schmid/Poulter/Malek to actually develop into an NHL-caliber goalie.

Bahl is nothing more than 6/7 D and plays like he's 5'7 instead of 6'7, and the 1st is likely going to be in the 20s. Even the biggest Devils doomsayers out there who like to complain for no reason like the trade.

- vlongo4419


Markstrom is clearly not big game.... I wonder who Fitz is really targeting for him to save his prized assets.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
Markstrom is clearly not big game.... I wonder who Fitz is really targeting for him to save his prized assets.
- Leniwm1


He absolutely is big game in their eyes, whether you agree or not. Markstrom was their clear #1 target from the beginning. He's who they wanted the whole time.

Coming into the offseason Markstrom was 3rd on my want list of the goalies, behind Ullmark and Saros. But based on the asking prices and the contract extentions
that were needed on top of the assets that would've been given up, it was obvious Markstrom was the clear move. With what we gave up and the fact that theyre eating almost 2M, I'm happy with the deal. I expected it to be more, based on the rumors/talk.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 19 @ 6:19 PM ET
Markstrom is clearly not big game.... I wonder who Fitz is really targeting for him to save his prized assets.
- Leniwm1

Brodeur thinks he’s top 5 in the league so this is it
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:37 PM ET
Brodeur thinks he’s top 5 in the league so this is it
- shvingter88


He really said that? I wonder if they came to that conclusion based off his numbers on a poopty team. Like his numbers on a better team won't be as bad?

Idk, I never saw Markstrom as top 5. But whatever, as long as we make the playoffs.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 6:46 PM ET
He really said that? I wonder if they came to that conclusion based off his numbers on a poopty team. Like his numbers on a better team won't be as bad?

Idk, I never saw Markstrom as top 5. But whatever, as long as we make the playoffs.

- Leniwm1


Yep, back in February. Said his top 5 active goalies are Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Sorokin, Adin Hill, and Markstrom.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 19 @ 6:50 PM ET
Yep, back in February. Said his top 5 active goalies are Vasilevskiy, Shesterkin, Sorokin, Adin Hill, and Markstrom.
- vlongo4419


I like how Allen played. He played pretty darn good in the short time and considering the circumstances. So if this is an upgrade, really nothing to complain about. It had to be done.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 19 @ 7:01 PM ET
I like how Allen played. He played pretty darn good in the short time and considering the circumstances. So if this is an upgrade, really nothing to complain about. It had to be done.
- Leniwm1


For sure. This is the most stable the Devils goaltending situation has been since prime Schneider. So almost a decade? If healthy, we're probably looking at a split of 50-55 games for Markstrom and ~30 for Allen.

Now to fill the rest of the holes on the roster. Still some questions to be answered. Top 6 winger? Revamping the bottom 6(center and/or wing)? Big/physical veteran left handed D? Anything else with the D? Who else is moved out? Keep the 10th overall pick or move that too? Should still be seeing multiple other moves/additions over the next few weeks.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 19 @ 9:15 PM ET
He really said that? I wonder if they came to that conclusion based off his numbers on a poopty team. Like his numbers on a better team won't be as bad?

Idk, I never saw Markstrom as top 5. But whatever, as long as we make the playoffs.

- Leniwm1

https://thehockeynews.com...deur-top-five-goalie-list

And based on other comments I think he’ll expect him to play 65-75 games

https://www.nytimes.com/a...l-goaltending-volatility/
RubberBiscuitz
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.12.2011

Jun 19 @ 11:00 PM ET
Erika.. won’t be back next season. Why even watch anymore 😭. What a sham.
- MartysBetter88

I can’t believe it
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 20 @ 7:24 AM ET
For sure. This is the most stable the Devils goaltending situation has been since prime Schneider. So almost a decade? If healthy, we're probably looking at a split of 50-55 games for Markstrom and ~30 for Allen.

Now to fill the rest of the holes on the roster. Still some questions to be answered. Top 6 winger? Revamping the bottom 6(center and/or wing)? Big/physical veteran left handed D? Anything else with the D? Who else is moved out? Keep the 10th overall pick or move that too? Should still be seeing multiple other moves/additions over the next few weeks.

- vlongo4419


If we can get a good deal for zadarov that will help the D

We need some size and grit up front, not talking about someone who does nothing but fight but someone useful. Wouldn't mind if they also go for someone like bortuzzi or however spelled he may not be big but he forchecks and is someone who chips in
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

Jun 20 @ 8:56 AM ET
If we can get a good deal for zadarov that will help the D

We need some size and grit up front, not talking about someone who does nothing but fight but someone useful. Wouldn't mind if they also go for someone like bortuzzi or however spelled he may not be big but he forchecks and is someone who chips in

- dmarsden2988


Would love Zadorov, but he just screams like the typical free agency overpay. Rumors that he could get 5-6 years at 6-7M AAV. Don't think the Devils would be comfortable going there.

Bertuzzi is someone I'd definitely go after if he gets to July 1. In terms of the bottom 6 some guys I'd be looking at are Martinook, Amadio, Trenin, and Carrier.

Its not a great free agency, but there's some guys that the Devils should be looking into for the right price. I expect some more trades to address roster issues too.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 20 @ 11:56 AM ET
Would love Zadorov, but he just screams like the typical free agency overpay. Rumors that he could get 5-6 years at 6-7M AAV. Don't think the Devils would be comfortable going there.

Bertuzzi is someone I'd definitely go after if he gets to July 1. In terms of the bottom 6 some guys I'd be looking at are Martinook, Amadio, Trenin, and Carrier.

Its not a great free agency, but there's some guys that the Devils should be looking into for the right price. I expect some more trades to address roster issues too.

- vlongo4419


Been hearing a lot of teams want Arber Xhekaj from Montreal. RFA. Montreal def wants to keep him. But he is that D we need. Heavy hitter, fighter, knows how to handle and move with the puck
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 20 @ 8:45 PM ET
Been hearing a lot of teams want Arber Xhekaj from Montreal. RFA. Montreal def wants to keep him. But he is that D we need. Heavy hitter, fighter, knows how to handle and move with the puck
- Leniwm1

Yup I’d trade for him

Also if Dallas can’t keep hakanpaa he would be great for the team
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 21 @ 7:05 AM ET
As the draft is coming up and we didn't trade our 1st for a goalie and assuming we keep the pick, who should the devil's select?

If pick is traded who would be a good target
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 21 @ 8:15 AM ET
As the draft is coming up and we didn't trade our 1st for a goalie and assuming we keep the pick, who should the devil's select?

If pick is traded who would be a good target

- dmarsden2988

Sennecke or eiserman

The pick will be traded I’m assuming, hopefully for Brady but I doubt we’ll be so lucky.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

Jun 21 @ 9:11 AM ET
Sennecke or eiserman

The pick will be traded I’m assuming, hopefully for Brady but I doubt we’ll be so lucky.

- shvingter88


If Brady was available, Goodbye mercer, holtz, nemec/Casey and 10th

Imagine Timo and Brady on the same line
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