Yeah, he was one of my boys.

Had such a great camp. It looks like they don't want to burn a year of his ELC.



Borderline disrespectful on his 1st NHL tally
- Tomahawk

Thought so. I know that draft was pegged as a good one but it sure does look like it early

Let’s wait to see what the trade is before we like it.
- ClaudeFather

You need a partner at the dance. He never indicated that the Flyers were close on anything . He brought up Walker and Seeler and said there is a market for them. It’s definitely a tad tougher to make a deal this time a year, but there are some very good teams that have struggled to start the season and are trying to make moves before the year becomes a wasted one. The Flyers do have some cap flexibility to help with some of the cap issues and that only adds to what the Flyers could end bringing back should something actually happen.

Define active? I do not believe in any way they are looking to trade the players they should trade. Do you?

so does very active mean they are looking to buy? Sell? A very vague report as pretty much every team is looking at moves imo.

With the spot they are currently in there is no way they look to change that in terms of subtracting players. Less Frost
- hello it's me 2050

Define active? I’m not Darren Dreger.

You need a partner at the dance. He never indicated that the Flyers were close on anything . He brought up Walker and Seeler and said there is a market for them. It’s definitely a tad tougher to make a deal this time a year, but there are some very good teams that have struggled to start the season and are trying to make moves before the year becomes a wasted one. The Flyers do have some cap flexibility to help with some of the cap issues and that only adds to what the Flyers could end bringing back should something actually happen.
- landros 2

seeing where the flyers are currently at, do you see them dealing any of those 2 any time soon? If at all?

all team eventually pay coaches not to coach their team.
- hello it's me 2050

The funniest thing I read on here is how “terrible” some coach’s are. Everyone who gets to this level are fantastic coach’s. Timing, circumstances, luck, individual rosters play a huge part. After a while messages and methods grow tired. When teams don’t have success players lose interest in what’s being preached. You are correct. All coach’s have a shelf life. I do wonder how long Torts methods will last with this team? I think they might actually get even better results before the bottom starts to fall out and it becomes apparent to DB and Jonesy that a new voice is needed going forward.

4th line is a good place for Laughton
- WhiskeyMan

And don’t forget there were rumors over the summer that this 4th line center was subject to a 1st round pick offer (if that rumor was actually accurate).

The triumvirate should’ve planned better for Frost. Sell high or re-sign the man? GMDB gave him a reasonable contract, apparently contemplating that Frost was a valid building block of this supposed rebuild. Yet, he’s essentially been thrown out with the dishwater by a recalcitrant coach. Ain’t no selling high now.

seeing where the flyers are currently at, do you see them dealing any of those 2 any time soon? If at all?
- hello it's me 2050

Under Hextall and Fletcher. No. But we’ll see if DB is different. The answer is I have no idea.

The first mistake made is thinking Briere is making the call on trades to make or not make. Clearly the evidence available supports that Tortorella and Jones are linked in terms of how they view things. Undetermined on where Briere stands in that. Based on the documented triumvirate, Briere could very well be out voted. Or on board with Jones and Tortorella.

The funniest thing I read on here is how “terrible” some coach’s are. Everyone who gets to this level are fantastic coach’s. Timing, circumstances, luck, individual rosters play a huge part. After a while messages and methods grow tired. When teams don’t have success players lose interest in what’s being preached. You are correct. All coach’s have a shelf life. I do wonder how long Torts methods will last with this team? I think they might actually get even better results before the bottom starts to fall out and it becomes apparent to DB and Jonesy that a new voice is needed going forward.
- landros 2

as far as his shelf life with the flyers, the funny thing to me is if he traded the ones he should ( tk Laughton and like) he would have a longer shelf life. They will shut it down to an extent if the losing creeps back in. Younger players more for lack of a better word being "scared" would buy him more time.

Under Hextall and Fletcher. No. But we’ll see if DB is different. The answer is I have no idea.
- landros 2

those 2 do not matter. IMO there is no chance they trade the if still in the mix unless an offer that is too good to pass up.

For seeler they will give the old well we like what he brings and that is more valuable than a 4th rd pick.

Walker will have very good value and be in demand. I want to say it was Freidman speculating ( week or 10 days ago) about a 5 year ext at 6 per if I remember correctly. Flyers should cash out and move him as I do not see him settling for a 3 year ext with the flyers. Unless the flyers want to go 5 years.....

Why should it have happened in the off season?
- MJL

Because as you have mentioned numerous times, Frost leads the Flyers in ES scoring last season. Thus if it’s determined Frost is not part of the future here then sell high. They extended instead, and now he is sitting. This is just stupid IMO

Because as you have mentioned numerous times, Frost leads the Flyers in ES scoring last season. Thus if it’s determined Frost is not part of the future here then sell high. They extended instead, and now he is sitting. This is just stupid IMO
- jd250

How does that answer the question? Why should he have been traded in the off season? An answer to that takes the timing into account in the time frame of the actual off season.

The first mistake made is thinking Briere is making the call on trades to make or not make. Clearly the evidence available supports that Tortorella and Jones are linked in terms of how they view things. Undetermined on where Briere stands in that. Based on the documented triumvirate, Briere could very well be out voted. Or on board with Jones and Tortorella.
- MJL

Ok but following this logic then at least two out of the three had to agree to extend Frost. Let’s assume Briere wanted to extend Frost and wants him to play now and let’s assume Torts wanted him gone. So then you are trying to tell us that Jones wanted to extend Frost but now is on board with sitting him? Doesn’t make much sense does it?

Ok but following this logic then at least two out of the three had to agree to extend Frost. Let’s assume Briere wanted to extend Frost and wants him to play now and let’s assume Torts wanted him gone. So then you are trying to tell us that Jones wanted to extend Frost but now is on board with sitting him? Doesn’t make much sense does it?
- jd250

That conversation is not specific to Frost. Follow along.

Yeah, he was one of my boys.

Had such a great camp. It looks like they don't want to burn a year of his ELC.



Borderline disrespectful on his 1st NHL tally
- Tomahawk

But alas, he’ll soon enough become a loser like the rest of the team

Because as you have mentioned numerous times, Frost leads the Flyers in ES scoring last season. Thus if it’s determined Frost is not part of the future here then sell high. They extended instead, and now he is sitting. This is just stupid IMO
- jd250

so are you saying the flyers management team was clearly incompetent when it came to Frost and what they should do?

That conversation is not specific to Frost. Follow along.
- MJL

Well I’m making it specific to Frost, because your logic doesn’t stack up. I honestly don’t know what is going on with these three, Briere and Jones have not been in front of the media in the past month or so that I have seen or heard.

so are you saying the flyers management team was clearly incompetent when it came to Frost and what they should do?
- hello it's me 2050

I don’t know. All I can say is it does not make sense to extend a player for two years with a decent raise and then sit him. There is a key piece of information missing here.

I don’t know. All I can say is it does not make sense to extend a player for two years with a decent raise and then sit him. There is a key piece of information missing here.
- jd250

no info is missing. It is cut and dry what's happening.

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Well I’m making it specific to Frost, because your logic doesn’t stack up. I honestly don’t know what is going on with these three, Briere and Jones have not been in front of the media in the past month or so that I have seen or heard.
- jd250

It certainly does stack up. You don't even understand the point. Which is that Briere as the GM , is not calling the shots and that it is far more likely that the vision of Tortorella and Jones is calling the shots. With Jones set up as an easy mark for Tortorella's manipulation as it has been reported that he agrees with most of how Tortorella sees it.

As far as Frost is concerned. During the Summer, there were no legitimate reports that I saw that stated that Frost was on the market. Or that the Flyers were actively trying to trade him. That was then, this is now. It's clear that no matter how well Frost plays, Tortorella does not like the player. That kind of changes things now versus how it was last Summer. Don't you think?

Per Tortorella, same lineup as last game. Hart starts. Frost scratched for the 10th time in 20 games (third in a row). Zamula stays in the lineup, Belpedio is scratched.

I don’t know. All I can say is it does not make sense to extend a player for two years with a decent raise and then sit him. There is a key piece of information missing here.
- jd250

It's pretty easy to figure it out. Not sure what information you think is missing.

those 2 do not matter. IMO there is no chance they trade the if still in the mix unless an offer that is too good to pass up.

For seeler they will give the old well we like what he brings and that is more valuable than a 4th rd pick.

Walker will have very good value and be in demand. I want to say it was Freidman speculating ( week or 10 days ago) about a 5 year ext at 6 per if I remember correctly. Flyers should cash out and move him as I do not see him settling for a 3 year ext with the flyers. Unless the flyers want to go 5 years.....
- hello it's me 2050

Only brought those two up because I think that’s what everyone has become accustomed to.
I think they might do a bit better on Seeler and get a decent young “B” prospect back if they choose to move him.
I didn’t hear those #s on Walker but with his age, injury history and for where this team is I sell when I can before he gets hurt or his play tails off.
If they sign Walker to an extension I think the cat is officially out of the bag….this ain’t no (frank)ing rebuild.

Per Tortorella, same lineup as last game. Hart starts. Frost scratched for the 10th time in 20 games (third in a row). Zamula stays in the lineup, Belpedio is scratched.
- bmeltzer

Glad to see Zamula in the lineup. With every scratch for Frost it becomes more apparent that Torts simply doesn’t see him as a guy to go forward with.