hahahhahhahha
what a monumental moron and tool you are

I will in 2026
- THE BLACK HAND

Looking in the mirror again? Congrats!!

yet people eat up torts psuedo tough guy act and are just "happy" theyre "fun to watch again......lots of critical thinking there
- THE BLACK HAND

Yup, keep feeding the fans a steady diet of bluster, violence and nostalgia... laugh all the way to the bank.

Just looking at the standings. Yup, Cowgirls and the Ninas still with 3 losses. Eh what?

Yup, keep feeding the fans a steady diet of bluster, violence and nostalgia... laugh all the way to the bank.
- Tomahawk

From the 45 people who listened to the radio broadcast?

Bill Meltzer: Flyers Black Friday Gameday: 11/24/23 vs. NYR
- bmeltzer

I bet torts thinks Hathaway was the best player on the ice today

I didn’t say he would not stand for it, I said he would not be happy in that role long term
- jd250

Dude -- you did say that sl would not stand for playing on the 4th line

fraud

Watched the Torts post game presser and was appalled by the lack of hockey knowledge the people asking the questions displayed. Torts has always been short with the press, but today I was actually on his side. Except he refused to talk about the PP. Thought that was a female dog move.

Let me stop by to straighten this out for everyone. If every Philly team was a .500 team the pecking order would be Eagles, Flyers, Phillies and Sixers. It has been this way for decades and will NEVER change. How many times do we have to go over this? How bout dem Cowboys and Niners! Lookin pretty sharp or were we just drinking too much at Thanksgiving dinner?
- Phillywhiteout

I will have to respectfully disagree. Ive lived here in 7 decades now and it has always been:

Eagles












Phillies


Sixers













Flyers.


This is a good visual representation.

I will have to respectfully disagree. Ive lived here in 7 decades now and it has always been:

Eagles












Phillies


Sixers













Flyers.


This is a good visual representation.
- MBFlyerfan

nah, flyers have never ever been last until recently. Always 2nd

I will have to respectfully disagree. Ive lived here in 7 decades now and it has always been:

Eagles












Phillies


Sixers













Flyers.


This is a good visual representation.
- MBFlyerfan

This pretty much matches my observations over 6 decades. Sometimes Sixers and Phillies switch places

I will have to respectfully disagree. Ive lived here in 7 decades now and it has always been:

Eagles












Phillies


Sixers













Flyers.


This is a good visual representation.
- MBFlyerfan

Pretty much, though during times the Flyers were good and the Sixers were struggling, the Flyers edged ahead of them a bit.

But all in all, the Eagles are by far #1, followed by the Phillies. There also have been times where Big 5 college bball has been more popular than the Flyers and the Sixers.

I will have to respectfully disagree. Ive lived here in 7 decades now and it has always been:

Eagles












Phillies


Sixers













Flyers.


This is a good visual representation.
- MBFlyerfan

No disrespect intended (ok, maybe a little), but you have NO CLUE what you're talking about! Of course, right now it's that way, but you are severely out of touch with reality if you think what you portrayed is the truth. It truly is amazing how clueless people are.

nah, flyers have never ever been last until recently. Always 2nd
- hello it's me 2050

Thank you!
Please ignore the idiots on here.

Pretty much, though during times the Flyers were good and the Sixers were struggling, the Flyers edged ahead of them a bit.

But all in all, the Eagles are by far #1, followed by the Phillies. There also have been times where Big 5 college bball has been more popular than the Flyers and the Sixers.
- BiggE

I'll agree to strongly disagree. Remember that game 7 on easter sunday that the Sixers had no one attend. They have always been behind the Flyers in equal times. Remember when the Sixers said they were going to move to Camden? Everyone simply shrugged their shoulders...like, so what? Then the Flyers threatened to move along with them and all hell broke loose. I just don't agree with your sentiment at all. Wait, I do agree that the Eagles are far ahead #1. Just not the other stuff with the Phillies and Sixers. Could be a dispute with the Sillies, but no way that the Sixers are anywhere but 4th in the pecking order all things being equal. I guess people have short memories and think it's always been the way it has been lately.

Watched the Torts post game presser and was appalled by the lack of hockey knowledge the people asking the questions displayed. Torts has always been short with the press, but today I was actually on his side. Except he refused to talk about the PP. Thought that was a female dog move.
- cdearth23

One of the questions was mine. I asked about the third goal the Rangers scored today.

Poehling had a scoring chance. Sheshterkin made the save and held for the stoppage. The Rangers won the D-zone faceoff, puck went behind the net. They went the length of the ice and scored. I asked him where the breakdowns happened.

He gets sarcastic, as if I'm asking about the second (Kreider) goal.

I said, "No, not that goal. The one that started with a faceoff in the Rangers zone."

Dismissive: "I don't know what goal you're talking about."

Well, gee, the Rangers scored three goals. It wasn't the first one, which started with a set play off a faceoff win in the Rangers zone. Swung the other way shortly thereafer into a 2-on-1. And it wasn't the second one.

As such, it could ONLY be third goal, which went down as I described it. Started with a D zone faceoff for NY, they go down and score.

Also, I already KNEW where the breakdowns happened (there was more than one). I've been watching hockey for over 50 years, since I was a little kid. I know what I'm looking at. Bu, for authoritativeness, this a question for a coach to break down -- didn't have support up high, our D overaggressive at the blueline, forward didn't backcheck, D failed to go to the near side post. Don't have to name names.

He came up small on that. And even smaller in refusing to discuss the power play on a day they went 0-for-6.

Accountability is a two-way street. Professionalism is a two-way street, too.

One of the questions was mine. I asked about the third goal the Rangers scored today.

Poehling had a scoring chance. Sheshterkin made the save and held for the stoppage. The Rangers won the D-zone faceoff, puck went behind the net. They went the length of the ice and scored. I asked him where the breakdowns happened.

He gets sarcastic, as if I'm asking about the second (Kreider) goal.

I said, "No, not that goal. The one that started with a faceoff in the Rangers zone."

Dismissive: "I don't know what goal you're talking about."

Well, gee, the Rangers scored three goals. It wasn't the first one, which started with a set play off a faceoff win in the Rangers zone. Swung the other way shortly thereafer into a 2-on-1. And it wasn't the second one.

As such, it could ONLY be third goal, which went down as I described it. Started with a D zone faceoff for NY, they go down and score.

Also, I already KNEW where the breakdowns happened (there was more than one). I've been watching hockey for over 50 years, since I was a little kid. I know what I'm looking at. Bu, for authoritativeness, this a question for a coach to break down -- didn't have support up high, our D overaggressive at the blueline, forward didn't backcheck, D failed to go to the near side post. Don't have to name names.

He came up small on that. And even smaller in refusing to discuss the power play on a day they went 0-for-6.

Accountability is a two-way street. Professionalism is a two-way street, too.
- bmeltzer

Didn't see the game today, but 0-6 on the PP? Do you really think this is a talent issue or a coaching issue (or a little of both)? I mean, I watch other PPs around the league, and guys look like they know what they're doing and where they're supposed to be. They just look so smooth compared to the Flyers jumbled up mess (generally).

Here you are again criticizing fans. They don't love to be negative. They want to win.. More than just a few regular season games. The passionate hard core fans who are astute enough to accurately assess the reality of what is really going on with this team. Aren't negative or blowing in the wind. They're the smart intelligent fans. I think it's sad and pathetic by those who are easily humored and satisfied by mediocrity. Demand more from your team. Why should I or anyone display a bit of patience when the team is acting stupidly and making bad decisions? This isn't a rebuild. This is a focus on winning while adding a few younger players as long as it doesn't get in the way of winning. Call it a rebuild all you like but the coach in a recent press conference all but confirmed this isn't a rebuild. How they owe it to the guys in the room to try and win. I'm not telling anyone what to do, you understand...merely commenting on my observations and the flow of the forum
- MJL

So we can criticize the Flyers and the management... but we cannot criticize the fans? You can critique my views, but I cannot criticize the negative fans? Do you not see the double standards here. Come down from your high horse... do you not realize how condescending are, and superior you are trying to come off on here at times? We all have our own opinions... your looking your nose down at others' opinions doesn't make your opinion any more valid. Disagree all you want with others opinions, but please don't put down others for having them. Conversation without condescension is always the better method... and even standards should always be applied. This is all I have to say on the matter.

One of the questions was mine. I asked about the third goal the Rangers scored today.

Poehling had a scoring chance. Sheshterkin made the save and held for the stoppage. The Rangers won the D-zone faceoff, puck went behind the net. They went the length of the ice and scored. I asked him where the breakdowns happened.

He gets sarcastic, as if I'm asking about the second (Kreider) goal.

I said, "No, not that goal. The one that started with a faceoff in the Rangers zone."

Dismissive: "I don't know what goal you're talking about."

Well, gee, the Rangers scored three goals. It wasn't the first one, which started with a set play off a faceoff win in the Rangers zone. Swung the other way shortly thereafer into a 2-on-1. And it wasn't the second one.

As such, it could ONLY be third goal, which went down as I described it. Started with a D zone faceoff for NY, they go down and score.

Also, I already KNEW where the breakdowns happened (there was more than one). I've been watching hockey for over 50 years, since I was a little kid. I know what I'm looking at. Bu, for authoritativeness, this a question for a coach to break down -- didn't have support up high, our D overaggressive at the blueline, forward didn't backcheck, D failed to go to the near side post. Don't have to name names.

He came up small on that. And even smaller in refusing to discuss the power play on a day they went 0-for-6.

Accountability is a two-way street. Professionalism is a two-way street, too.
- bmeltzer

In theory yes, in reality it is not. Those in power are as accountable and professional as they want to be for the most part. The threshold for having consequences for his actions for Torts is many, many times higher than you. Torts version of accountability starts and ends with how willing you are to get into his face and yell at him.

Hilfrety and Jones probably view the local media guys as a necessary evil even with Jones background and imo don't really care how he treats the local press. Short of inconveniencing them by repeatedly asking them questions they don't want to answer they are more than willing to let Torts do whatever he wants as long as he takes all the daggers.

One of the questions was mine. I asked about the third goal the Rangers scored today.

Poehling had a scoring chance. Sheshterkin made the save and held for the stoppage. The Rangers won the D-zone faceoff, puck went behind the net. They went the length of the ice and scored. I asked him where the breakdowns happened.

He gets sarcastic, as if I'm asking about the second (Kreider) goal.

I said, "No, not that goal. The one that started with a faceoff in the Rangers zone."

Dismissive: "I don't know what goal you're talking about."

Well, gee, the Rangers scored three goals. It wasn't the first one, which started with a set play off a faceoff win in the Rangers zone. Swung the other way shortly thereafer into a 2-on-1. And it wasn't the second one.

As such, it could ONLY be third goal, which went down as I described it. Started with a D zone faceoff for NY, they go down and score.

Also, I already KNEW where the breakdowns happened (there was more than one). I've been watching hockey for over 50 years, since I was a little kid. I know what I'm looking at. Bu, for authoritativeness, this a question for a coach to break down -- didn't have support up high, our D overaggressive at the blueline, forward didn't backcheck, D failed to go to the near side post. Don't have to name names.

He came up small on that. And even smaller in refusing to discuss the power play on a day they went 0-for-6.

Accountability is a two-way street. Professionalism is a two-way street, too.
- bmeltzer

I don’t blame you for this post…it would be different if you would have asked a question that had nothing to do with the game…but ya that was a play that should be asked about. The PP continues to look inept…even in its concepts, the personnel decisions…everything. Thats a sore spot…but (frank) it should be.

Maybe let it go and chalk it up to a coach’s off day. It’s not the first time I’ve seen Torts act like an ass and to be honest I’ve found a lot of his answers to be thoughtful and insightful. Then again that’s up to you… I don’t have to deal with him daily.

In theory yes, in reality it is not. Those in power are as accountable and professional as they want to be for the most part. The threshold for having consequences for his actions for Torts is many, many times higher than you. Torts version of accountability starts and ends with how willing you are to get into his face and yell at him.

Hilfrety and Jones probably view the local media guys as a necessary evil even with Jones background and imo don't really care how he treats the local press. Short of inconveniencing them by repeatedly asking them questions they don't want to answer they are more than willing to let Torts do whatever he wants as long as he takes all the daggers.
- Flyers_01

They should care …and as Bill says this is about being a professional. It should matter.

I don’t blame you for this post…it would be different if you would have asked a question that had nothing to do with the game…but ya that was a play that should be asked about. The PP continues to look inept…even in its concepts, the personnel decisions…everything. Thats a sore spot…but (frank) it should be.

Maybe let it go and chalk it up to a coach’s off day. It’s not the first time I’ve seen Torts act like an ass and to be honest I’ve found a lot of his answers to be thoughtful and insightful. Then again that’s up to you… I don’t have to deal with him daily.
- landros 2

With Torts, it all depends on his mood. Not an excuse.

They should care …and as Bill says this is about being a professional. It should matter.
- landros 2

I agree they should care and it should matter but until the public makes it an issue and makes thing uncomfortable to those at the top, they won't.

Anyone who complains about Torts is negadelphia fan and should be ignored, haven't you heard?

I remember that. He showed zero clue about the Devils and how they actually play.

- MJL

Still fighting the good fight I see

With Torts, it all depends on his mood. Not an excuse.
- bmeltzer

The sign of a good leader is someone that treats all those around them with respect. It’s easy to treat people like poop, it takes a certain quality in a position like his to rise above frustration. There is no excuse.

Accountability is a two-way street. Professionalism is a two-way street, too.
- bmeltzer

His behavior was churlish and infantile.

No idea why the league and his teams keep letting him get away with behaving that way.

You guys are just trying to do your jobs. Answering your questions is part of his job.

(frank)ed up that some fans find the abuse entertaining or justified. The media are asking him questions on our behalf.