Who’s the replacement is the question, cause it ain’t Oompa Loompa Lou
- kindlyrick

If Lou is still at the helm if/when changes are made and they're still operating under the premise of competing for something: there are two good coaches out there with plenty of NHL experience in Evason and Woodcroft.

If they're going the rebuilding route? Who cares, they'll suck for a long time.

Who’s the replacement is the question, cause it ain’t Oompa Loompa Lou
- kindlyrick

Coach Q is probably not an option. I would hire Oates.

Coach Q is probably not an option. I would hire Oates.
- ses111

I like the Oates idea a lot

If Lou is still at the helm if/when changes are made and they're still operating under the premise of competing for something: there are two good coaches out there with plenty of NHL experience in Evason and Woodcroft.

If they're going the rebuilding route? Who cares, they'll suck for a long time.
- eichiefs9

Question is, does ownership grab their balls and bring in a new GM? Cause I think it’s becoming clear it’s time.

Question is, does ownership grab their balls and bring in a new GM? Cause I think it’s becoming clear it’s time.
- kindlyrick

This is the question. Probably should have happened this last offseason. Islander ownership over the years have not been proactive.

I like the Oates idea a lot
- kindlyrick

Hard to tell with the available coaches, but Oates would be my pick.

Question is, does ownership grab their balls and bring in a new GM? Cause I think it’s becoming clear it’s time.
- kindlyrick

GM changes are pretty rare in-season, so I'm not expecting that to happen before the end of the year. My gut tells me yes, but I don't have a high degree of confidence in that feeling either.

So basically: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm not sure that there isn't another defenseman they could have signed for less term and similar cap hit. Radko Gudas makes $500k more per year but on a three year deal.

Here's the list of UFA defensemen that signed between July 1st and Sep 30th:



There's one major outlier in the term column
- eichiefs9

Exactly. It’s amazing how smart the posters on the internet are without any names or AVV’s that they would have signed or executed.
It’s just so much easier in Internet Fantasy Land. Which one would you have signed?

Exactly. It’s amazing how smart the posters on the internet are without any names or AVV’s that they would have signed or executed.
It’s just so much easier in Internet Fantasy Land.
- nyisles7

I did mention Dumba as a possible signing at the time and he did sign for one year. Islanders also could have promoted Iskhakov over signing Engvall. I know he is unproven, but he would have helped the Cap and he has speed and skill and good in the SO and you would have found out if he could play. Maybe he clicks with Nelson. I'm not smart but I try to offer solutions. I also mentioned Oates as possible coach. I know you were not referring to me though.

I miss the boring, winning hockey.

If Lou is still at the helm if/when changes are made and they're still operating under the premise of competing for something: there are two good coaches out there with plenty of NHL experience in Evason and Woodcroft.

If they're going the rebuilding route? Who cares, they'll suck for a long time.
- eichiefs9

Evason gets my vote.

I miss the boring, winning hockey.
- chazpet

Yep

I did mention Dumba as a possible signing at the time and he did sign for one year. Islanders also could have promoted Iskhakov over signing Engvall. I know he is unproven, but he would have helped the Cap and he has speed and skill and good in the SO and you would have found out if he could play. Maybe he clicks with Nelson. I'm not smart but I try to offer solutions. I also mentioned Oates as possible coach. I know you were not referring to me though.

- ses111

They could’ve attempted to sign any of the other available UFA’s for less term. They could’ve traded mayfield got a return and committed to signing or trading for a shorter term bottom pairing defenseman. They could’ve committed to promoting a Salo or Bolduc and flushed this season down the toilet like they should’ve last season. To say signing mayfield to a seven year contract was the only available option is both moronic and hysterical.

I did mention Dumba as a possible signing and he did sign for one year. Islanders also could have promoted Iskhakov over signing Engvall. I know he is unproven, but he would have helped the Cap and he has speed and you would have found out if he could play. I know you were not referring to me though.

- ses111

Well I don’t know if Dumba would have signed for that number and come here? I guess you have that confirmation? I also don’t know if an offer was thrown at Dumba and it was declined. Ask Cpt he seems to know everything before Lou.
As far as Iskhakov he might have helped on the ice? But he definitely would have helped the cap like Bellows, Kuivula, Ho Sang, Wally etc. For me Engvall played extremely well last year and the line he was on was the best in the PO push and the POs. Engvall is fast and skates extremely well.
May actually be faster than Iskhakov and has proven chemistry with Nelson and Palms. His AVV is a bargain imho. It’s funny that most have thought Mayfield was signing elsewhere for $5 MM plus in FA. Engvall was also going to be offered to much for the Islanders to sign him, Mayfield and SOrOkin. Much easier to buy out a lower AVV longer term contract and effects the cap less obviously.
On Iskhakov why isn’t he playing? The Sound Tiger games you’ve watched, has he proven or made a case to play in the NHL? Serious question as I have not seen him play one game this year or last. I have only seen a small sample of him in the pre season and a handful of games he’s played here. You may be right and he may belong here. That I don’t know.

They could’ve attempted to sign any of the other available UFA’s for less term. They could’ve traded mayfield got a return and committed to signing or trading for a shorter term bottom pairing defenseman. They could’ve committed to promoting a Salo or Bolduc and flushed this season down the toilet like they should’ve last season. To say signing mayfield to a seven year contract was the only available option is both moronic and hysterical.
- Cptmjl

There are always other options, and a Hall of Fame GM should be able to find them. It's not a 2nd guess that many thought bringing back the same team that lost to the Canes was a mistake. Many writers through the same.

There are always other options, and a Hall of Fame GM should be able to find them. It's not a 2nd guess that many thought bringing back the same team that lost to the Canes was a mistake. Many writers through the same.
- ses111

100% not true Lou had to sign mayfield to a terrible contract. He had no choice.

"10:37. That's the amount of time the #Isles    have spent trailing this season per game, which is the best in the #NHL, per @morehockeystats. "

This is a stunning statistic for a team that's lost 13 games.
Only the San Jose Sharks are giving up more shots per game (36.8) than the Islanders (35.0)
Our pk % is also the second worst in the league.

On the one of the goals last night, they showed a zone view and the Isles coverage and it was keystone cop-like. Four guys crossing into one another with no idea who had who.

Well I don’t know if Dumba would have signed for that number and come here? I guess you have that confirmation? I also don’t know if an offer was thrown at Dumba and it was declined.
As far as Iskhakov he might have helped on the ice? But he definitely would have helped the cap like Bellows, Kuivula, Ho Sang, Wally etc. For me Engvall played extremely well last year and the line he was on was the best in the PO push and the POs. Engvall is fast and skates extremely well.
May actually be faster than Iskhakov and has proven chemistry with Nelson and Palms. His AVV is a bargain imho. It’s funny that most have thought Mayfield was signing elsewhere for $5 MM plus in FA. Engvall was also going to be offered to much for the Islanders to sign him, Mayfield and SOrOkin.
On Iskhakov why isn’t he playing? The Sound Tiger games you’ve watched, has he proven or made a case to play in the NHL? Serious question as I have not seen him play one game this year or last. I have only seen a small sample of him in the pre season and a handful of games he’s played here. You may be right and he may belong here. That I don’t know.
- nyisles7

I think Lou was intend on bringing the same team back. He mentioned it before the start of UFA.


Just going by Iskhakov numbers last year and he seems to be off to a good start this year. I cannot say for sure he is a sure-fire bet. You have to take chances with young talent in a Cap world and when you cannot or will not sign top FA. Lou has always been slow in prompting young players and wants them extra cooked in the minors. I never claimed to a GM, but at least I try to offer solutions.

"10:37. That's the amount of time the #Isles    have spent trailing this season per game, which is the best in the #NHL, per @morehockeystats. "

This is a stunning statistic for a team that's lost 13 games.
Only the San Jose Sharks are giving up more shots per game (36.8) than the Islanders (35.0)
Our pk % is also the second worst in the league.

On the one of the goals last night, they showed a zone view and the Isles coverage and it was keystone cop-like. Four guys crossing into one another with no idea who had who.
- keaner17

I get Barry is no longer coaching, but the Islanders do not have a couple of rookies and should not be playing like they did with Cappy and Doug.

I think Lou was intend on bringing the same team back. He mentioned it before the start of UFA.


Just going by Iskhakov numbers last year and he seems to be off to a good start this year. I cannot say for sure he is a sure-fire bet. You have to take chances with young talent in a Cap world and when you cannot or will not sign top FA. Lou has always been slow in prompting young players and wants them extra cooked in the minors. I never claimed to a GM, but at least I try to offer solutions.
- ses111

Lou doesn’t promote young players. It’s up to the coaches in BP and then the staff here.
Never said you or I were GM’s GOD FORBID
Yes he wanted to bring the team back which no one on here thought possible. Now if they don’t make the pOs then he may be shown the door because of it.

"10:37. That's the amount of time the #Isles    have spent trailing this season per game, which is the best in the #NHL, per @morehockeystats. "

This is a stunning statistic for a team that's lost 13 games.
Only the San Jose Sharks are giving up more shots per game (36.8) than the Islanders (35.0)
Our pk % is also the second worst in the league.

On the one of the goals last night, they showed a zone view and the Isles coverage and it was keystone cop-like. Four guys crossing into one another with no idea who had who.
- keaner17

Lou doesn’t promote young players. It’s up to the coaches in BP and then the staff here.
Never said you or I were GM’s GOD FORBID
- nyisles7

I have to think Lou has a lot of say.

I’ve always been a fan of teams having more young players. Just because some young players did not work out for whatever reason, I’m not giving up on the idea of young players. Lots of advantages like the Cap, less injuries, and more upside.

"10:37. That's the amount of time the #Isles    have spent trailing this season per game, which is the best in the #NHL, per @morehockeystats. "

This is a stunning statistic for a team that's lost 13 games.
Only the San Jose Sharks are giving up more shots per game (36.8) than the Islanders (35.0)
Our pk % is also the second worst in the league.

On the one of the goals last night, they showed a zone view and the Isles coverage and it was keystone cop-like. Four guys crossing into one another with no idea who had who.
- keaner17

I said it 2 weeks ago. This team for me has lost its Chemistry and identity.
It’s not because of Mayfield or any single player. Hell, I saw some remarks on twitter that sOrOkin needs to be better giving up 4 plus goals in games, WHAT?!
This team doesn’t play team defense, doesn’t hit and isn’t a hard team to play against anymore. What changed. Again it isn’t one or two bad player or signing I think it’s the system they are playing which falls on the coach.

I think Lou was intend on bringing the same team back. He mentioned it before the start of UFA.


Just going by Iskhakov numbers last year and he seems to be off to a good start this year. I cannot say for sure he is a sure-fire bet. You have to take chances with young talent in a Cap world and when you cannot or will not sign top FA. Lou has always been slow in prompting young players and wants them extra cooked in the minors. I never claimed to a GM, but at least I try to offer solutions.
- ses111

Yeah I think there’s enough proof that is exactly what his plan was.

- eichiefs9

The flip side of that is they blow leads quicker then any other team in the NHL.