First, I never said Torts was the "best player developing coach in the league", but he is very good at developing young players. Secondly, learning how to win and prioritizing winning is in itself developing players. Any coach that states there are things more important than winning are not worth their weight and are not good head coaches. Any player that puts his own needs ahead of the team winning is not a player you want on your team.
The interesting thing about the argument about putting Frost in the lineup is its less about his development, and more about the team winning games. People on this forum want Deslauriers gone and Frost in the lineup every night because they feel that is the best Flyers lineup and gives them the best chance to win games.
- jd250
You most certainly did make mention of the great job Torts is doing with Zamula, Brink and Forester (all the young are developing better than expected under Torts, or something to that manner)...it was disputed by MJL, but ok..
Frost doesn't need to learn how to win.....he doesn't cause losses, and the stats show he leads in most categories. He needs to be allowed to play, because he is an asset to the team when playing, he should be playing because he is a better all around player than others playing, he is one of the best point generators on the team...history has shown this to be true. He should be playing because he should be a part of the future, whereas, those still playing and not being scratched should not be future players on this team.
I am on this forum everyday, and I want what is best for the players growth, and maximizing the players potential to be the best player he can be FOR THE FLYERS. I don't care about winning this year or next, and neither should you. They are no where near ready to compete, and they need the time to get their assets in the lineup, draft more, replace the coach, and build a proper foundation for the team to thrive for years. Thinking we are anything this year is just delusional.
I am not saying they can't play hard, compete, and have players taking steps forward...this is supposed to be a rebuild. But when the coach is on record saying he won't develope players at the cost of a win, during a rebuild just shows how wrong he is for where the team is at currently.
I want ND gone from the lineup because he doesn't fit the mold of what a current hockey player is...like the Rathje's and Murzyns are no longer a role on the teams.
The best thing for the team is for their young to grow and develope and learn from their mistakes, but Torts just wants to win at all costs. It's wrong.
