That was a red font post.

Wonder if it involves someone in the front office?
- LAHawk

Ha ha. Well you got me there LA, only expect shenanigans from Darth and Mohel.

Mark Lazerus
@MarkLazerus
Kyle Davidson says the players don't know the details of what went down.
2:10 PM · Nov 28, 2023
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Ha ha. Well you got me there LA, only expect shenanigans from Darth and Mohel.
- Popsghostly

i Know, I mostly just female dog a lot.

Perry probably tried to old school Haze one of the rookies and they said ummm no i will not have my balls shaved or be forced to do something gross.

What a pathetic day to be a Hawks fan.
Perry was brought in on the strength of Richardson's word to bring in a new culture. Anyone who has watched the league for years knew this guy was a rat on the ice. Now he has embarrassed the team and made a miserable situation for Bedard.
Now Kane, after screwing the Hawks around all season then demanding to be traded to the Rangers for a piddly return , signs a team friendly deal with arguably the Hawks biggest rival.

Like smack a taxi cab driver or assault a women in his Buffalo house?


I still think it was one of the kids, probably Bedard was told something, or heard something and tattled to his mommy, and mommy told management, like Perry was gambling, planning some rookie initiation, or some thing that would could have brought more bad publicity to the team.

It is probably that simple.
- wiz1901

KD said the matter involved no other player or their respective family members. Internal personnel issue was how he described it. It would suggest that it involved an employee of the organization or someone otherwise closely connected to it. He also said none of the players were provided any details of the matter. The union is aware of what allegedly happened, as it involves terminating a contract.

What a pathetic day to be a Hawks fan.
Perry was brought in on the strength of Richardson's word to bring in a new culture. Anyone who has watched the league for years knew this guy was a rat on the ice. Now he has embarrassed the team and made a miserable situation for Bedard.
Now Kane, after screwing the Hawks around all season then demanding to be traded to the Rangers for a piddly return , signs a team friendly deal with arguably the Hawks biggest rival.
- stevefrmglencoe

Meh, it's not that bad. Kane was gonna go somewhere, I don't think he did the Hawks wrong. The whole Perry thing is what it is. It really isn't that big of a deal. He did something, they held him accountable and he is gone. Having Perry on the team this season wasn't going to big a huge factor to the franchise now or in the future. Him being terminated from his contract won't have a big impact either. This day doesn't impact the hawks much at all.

The Hawks, or any other team/company, can’t stop inappropriate behaviour, they can only minimize the chances of it happening through education and creating an overall healthy work environment.

I feel the Hawks have created a healthy environment in the wake of the recent scandal. They’re acting shifting and taking the right course of action. I don’t know if there is anything else they can do.
- DarthKane

I agree with you...the only thing that irks me after watching all 9 minutes of that video is this....

If you,, the Hawks, are going to preach transparency, and what not.....there had to be upper management there besides Davidson. Davidson can talk...but Faulkner or Danny Wirtz should have been there preaching their transparency, etc. Instead, Davidson teared up at least 2-3 times and it just hits different seeing this guy trying to navigate this by himself.

I get it....likely don't want to make this bigger than it is, but given this is their first time to get it "right" since Beach on whatever happened (which we will never know) it's just pathetic on the Hawks upper management to not stand there by Davidson. This was a tough watch.

Meh, it's not that bad. Kane was gonna go somewhere, I don't think he did the Hawks wrong. The whole Perry thing is what it is. It really isn't that big of a deal. He did something, they held him accountable and he is gone. Having Perry on the team this season wasn't going to big a huge factor to the franchise now or in the future. Him being terminated from his contract won't have a big impact either. This day doesn't impact the hawks much at all.
- breadbag

This team is a laughing stock. Bill Wirtz. The Beach situation which ruined Q, Bowman and McDonough. All on Hall-of-Fame pace. Rocky's press conference act which destroyed his legacy. The blatant tanking. Sketchy ping pong ball with Weeks announcing Columbus out. Now more embarrassment.

What a pathetic day to be a Hawks fan.
Perry was brought in on the strength of Richardson's word to bring in a new culture. Anyone who has watched the league for years knew this guy was a rat on the ice. Now he has embarrassed the team and made a miserable situation for Bedard.
Now Kane, after screwing the Hawks around all season then demanding to be traded to the Rangers for a piddly return , signs a team friendly deal with arguably the Hawks biggest rival.
- stevefrmglencoe

Well when you give the player all the power in the world you have to honor that deal. That's what a full NMC gets you. Sorry you didn't get 4, 1sts and a can't miss prospect back for him last spring. SHould they have held on to him and got nothing back? LIke Toews? Please.

God only knows what Perry did. Hawks are their own worst enemy as instead of addressing it and saying they were doing due process, they stone walled everyone, led to idiots on social media putting an 18 yr old and his family through hell, including Perry and his family, and then put him on unconditional waivers to buy him out.

What should piss everyone off here is when there are good things to report the Wirtz family and Faulkner like her mentor McEgo are all front and center, but any bad news....and they go hide in the shadows. I get Danny Wirtz doesn't HAVE to be there, but he, along her, implented this transparency talking point and the first time to prove it......it's Davidson tip toeing around and I'll bet $$ Bedard's family tore him a new @sshole for not addressing this and letting her and him get dragged thru the mud.

Just because the Hawks are being mum on the situation that doesn't mean it involves somebody's mom.
- DarthKane

I heard it involves the Zamboni driver.

This team is a laughing stock. Bill Wirtz. The Beach situation which ruined Q, Bowman and McDonough. All on Hall-of-Fame pace. Rocky's press conference act which destroyed his legacy. The blatant tanking. Sketchy ping pong ball with Weeks announcing Columbus out. Now more embarrassment.
- stevefrmglencoe

Honestly, I just don't see it that dramatically. This is a sports franchise. It's not life or death. They have ups and downs. It's a business and they employ humans who occasionally do dumb things. It's not like these things only happen in Chicago. Trolls on twitter can joke about what they want but the team has a good future building right now.

What a pathetic day to be a Hawks fan.
Perry was brought in on the strength of Richardson's word to bring in a new culture. Anyone who has watched the league for years knew this guy was a rat on the ice. Now he has embarrassed the team and made a miserable situation for Bedard.
Now Kane, after screwing the Hawks around all season then demanding to be traded to the Rangers for a piddly return , signs a team friendly deal with arguably the Hawks biggest rival.
- stevefrmglencoe

Hardly team friendly, one year to prove he can still play.

Well when you give the player all the power in the world you have to honor that deal. That's what a full NMC gets you. Sorry you didn't get 4, 1sts and a can't miss prospect back for him last spring. SHould they have held on to him and got nothing back? LIke Toews? Please.

God only knows what Perry did. Hawks are their own worst enemy as instead of addressing it and saying they were doing due process, they stone walled everyone, led to idiots on social media putting an 18 yr old and his family through hell, including Perry and his family, and then put him on unconditional waivers to buy him out.

What should piss everyone off here is when there are good things to report the Wirtz family and Faulkner like her mentor McEgo are all front and center, but any bad news....and they go hide in the shadows. I get Danny Wirtz doesn't HAVE to be there, but he, along her, implented this transparency talking point and the first time to prove it......it's Davidson tip toeing around and I'll bet $$ Bedard's family tore him a new @sshole for not addressing this and letting her and him get dragged thru the mud.
- SteveRain

Realistically the Bedard family probably didn't do $hit and they just ignored the stupid people online spreading rumors. Transparency is fine but they also have obligations to individuals and to their privacy. People need to stop getting offended when the team doesn't tell them everything. We don't need to know.

Honestly, I just don't see it that dramatically. This is a sports franchise. It's not life or death. They have ups and downs. It's a business and they employ humans who occasionally do dumb things. It's not like these things only happen in Chicago. Trolls on twitter can joke about what they want but the team has a good future building right now.
- breadbag

I agree with you on most of this.....just in hind sight, on your 1st moderate situation it seem like overkill, but do you have any margin for error here by sending out Davidson to give a press conference where he tears up 2=3 times and sits there by himself?

Not in my world.....Faulkner's egotistical ass should have been there to offer the opening statement, be firm, angry at Perry, empathetic for the victim, and then let Davidson speak.

Well when you give the player all the power in the world you have to honor that deal. That's what a full NMC gets you. Sorry you didn't get 4, 1sts and a can't miss prospect back for him last spring. SHould they have held on to him and got nothing back? LIke Toews? Please.

God only knows what Perry did. Hawks are their own worst enemy as instead of addressing it and saying they were doing due process, they stone walled everyone, led to idiots on social media putting an 18 yr old and his family through hell, including Perry and his family, and then put him on unconditional waivers to buy him out.

What should piss everyone off here is when there are good things to report the Wirtz family and Faulkner like her mentor McEgo are all front and center, but any bad news....and they go hide in the shadows. I get Danny Wirtz doesn't HAVE to be there, but he, along her, implented this transparency talking point and the first time to prove it......it's Davidson tip toeing around and I'll bet $$ Bedard's family tore him a new @sshole for not addressing this and letting her and him get dragged thru the mud.
- SteveRain

I think any other GM in the league would have gone to Kane's agent, probably one of the most powerful men in the Hockey world, and offered to help him later if he would help the Hawks create a competitive situation for Kane or at least not announce to that he was only going to NY. 2nd and 4th was not a good return.

Hardly team friendly, one year to prove he can still play.
- rpeters01

If Perry is $4 million. This is low. Plus, it is structured as salary with no signing bonus so the Red Wings get more wiggle room at the Deadline. Kane wasn't very helpful last Deadline.

Realistically the Bedard family probably didn't do $hit and they just ignored the stupid people online spreading rumors. Transparency is fine but they also have obligations to individuals and to their privacy. People need to stop getting offended when the team doesn't tell them everything. We don't need to know.
- breadbag

You don't think an 18 yr old's family is NOT going to be in touch with the organization either directly and/or THRU his agent? Especially when the rumor is so asinine it has to be addressed by the team to begin with? If my son were Bedard, and my wife was getting labeled a "whore" while the Hawks stonewalled everyone....yeah, I would speak up and press this team to clear her name and his.

Funny how this investigation took less than a week with a holiday involved.....sure that's just a coincidence.

No, I really don't care what Perry did or didn't do......to your point, we don't need to know.....but I also didn't offer up transparency as a promise during a half ass town hall a few years back and then the 1st time to stand behind it.....sent out a GM who had to say "not going to comment on that" how many times? This was above his paygrade. This was Faulkner's show and she ducked it. Shocker. Just like her hero McEgo.

I think any other GM in the league would have gone to Kane's agent, probably one of the most powerful men in the Hockey world, and offered to help him later if he would help the Hawks create a competitive situation for Kane or at least not announce to that he was only going to NY. 2nd and 4th was not a good return.
- stevefrmglencoe

And again, why would the player bend? Did the agent go to the Hawks and demand more money when Kane won the hart? It works both ways......this is the danger of giving FULL NMCS/NTCs to older players.....you are left at the mercy of them.

And on the never ending thread from earlier today, I made a comment it just shows how hard Davidson really had to push Kane by trading DeBrincat, Strome, and even Domi to force his hand to waive. Where as Toews......well......where is Johnny?

I think any other GM in the league would have gone to Kane's agent, probably one of the most powerful men in the Hockey world, and offered to help him later if he would help the Hawks create a competitive situation for Kane or at least not announce to that he was only going to NY. 2nd and 4th was not a good return.
- stevefrmglencoe

That only works if other teams play along let it go water over the bridge.

If Perry is $4 million. This is low. Plus, it is structured as salary with no signing bonus so the Red Wings get more wiggle room at the Deadline. Kane wasn't very helpful last Deadline.
- stevefrmglencoe

Apples and oranges...

If Perry is $4 million. This is low. Plus, it is structured as salary with no signing bonus so the Red Wings get more wiggle room at the Deadline. Kane wasn't very helpful last Deadline.
- stevefrmglencoe

Perry's signing was unique in that it had a team with a lot of money available, and it was willing to pay the premium required for a veteran player who otherwise would have signed a team friendly deal in pursuit of another Cup.

Last wrinkle to this $hit show is if anyone from the Hawks beat, or national, pokes Perry's agent who was quick to say his player was taking time away after Hawks said he was sent away.......Oh well.

Now we see how this team comes out after this day.....hopefully Foligno/coaches can get these kids heads right and focused on the task at hand.

You don't think an 18 yr old's family is NOT going to be in touch with the organization either directly and/or THRU his agent? Especially when the rumor is so asinine it has to be addressed by the team to begin with? If my son were Bedard, and my wife was getting labeled a "whore" while the Hawks stonewalled everyone....yeah, I would speak up and press this team to clear her name and his.

Funny how this investigation took less than a week with a holiday involved.....sure that's just a coincidence.

No, I really don't care what Perry did or didn't do......to your point, we don't need to know.....but I also didn't offer up transparency as a promise during a half ass town hall a few years back and then the 1st time to stand behind it.....sent out a GM who had to say "not going to comment on that" how many times? This was above his paygrade. This was Faulkner's show and she ducked it. Shocker. Just like her hero McEgo.
- SteveRain

I think in most these cases they get use to blocking out the nonsense. I'm not saying that can't be in touch with their son and the team, but I doubt they put pressure on the Hawks FO.

I was surprised it took as long as it did to have the action happen to be honest. Obviously we don't know the details or what the investigation process was, but I think the holiday in the states probably slowed things down.

What a pathetic day to be a Hawks fan.
Perry was brought in on the strength of Richardson's word to bring in a new culture. Anyone who has watched the league for years knew this guy was a rat on the ice. Now he has embarrassed the team and made a miserable situation for Bedard.
Now Kane, after screwing the Hawks around all season then demanding to be traded to the Rangers for a piddly return , signs a team friendly deal with arguably the Hawks biggest rival.
- stevefrmglencoe

I feel your pain. Perry should have never been considered EVER. I was very vocal about that. He is a loser and a (frank)ing bum. I could have NEVER dreamed he'd do something (whatever it is) that would lead to THIS. Well done you ingrate.

As far as Kaner. At first I was like WHHHAAT. But honestly, the Wings are no longer our rival. Moved to the East. Play them rarely now. Last time we played them when it meant anything was 2013. But yea us old timers are gonna hate seeing Kaner in the Winged Wheel for sure. Still, Kaner gave it all for the Hawks, without him no flags in the gym and he also grew as a young man, so I will always support him.