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Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Nov 28 @ 10:59 PM ET
LR and the D coach won the argument with KD about keeping him up in the NHL. And the reasoning is simple - he's not going to improve by going back to junior hockey and he isn't eligible to play in the AHL which is the place that would benefit him most.

WIth very few exceptions, 19 year old defenceman don't belong in the NHL, especially on a bad team. And his play as the season grinds on isn't likely to get better.

- RickJ

Agree 100%, they just need him to keep it simple for now, and no more power play, lessen his load.
Edit- noticed another guy from north of the border mentioned this earlier.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Nov 28 @ 11:01 PM ET
The Hawks are working hard to lose this game.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 28 @ 11:01 PM ET
You guys are high if you think KK doesn’t belong in the NHL right now. He’s our best defender, which says nothing. His partner is one of the worst in the league. Go look at Murphy’s advanced stats and I’ll tell you why Korchinski can’t get out of his own end.
- ObeseOprah

What Korchinski is right now is completely irrelevant. Now doesn’t matter. Two to four years matters. There’s lots he has to learn and it’s going to be difficult for him to learn it in the NHL. I’ve seen lots of good players come up maybe too soon, start making mistakes, lose their confidence and either have difficulty recovering or never recovering. And I agree, the fact that the veteran defensemen on the team can’t mentor him is a huge problem. Like I said take him off the powerplay, and focus on him playing defense, on making good decisions.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 28 @ 11:33 PM ET
What Korchinski is right now is completely irrelevant. Now doesn’t matter. Two to four years matters. There’s lots he has to learn and it’s going to be difficult for him to learn it in the NHL. I’ve seen lots of good players come up maybe too soon, start making mistakes, lose their confidence and either have difficulty recovering or never recovering. And I agree, the fact that the veteran defensemen on the team can’t mentor him is a huge problem. Like I said take him off the powerplay, and focus on him playing defense, on making good decisions.
- paulr


Alright then appears there is a need for a veteran who can mentor the kids on defense. But at what price and how difficult to pry away from another team. Of course only Murphy would get chomped because you cannot move S Jones big contract aka the albatross.

Both Tinordi and Zaitsev represent depth and may stick around through next season. I envision both DelMastro and Allen needing at least roughly half season two in the AHL
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Nov 28 @ 11:36 PM ET
You wouldn't know a good person if it hit you in the face. Corey Perry has spent decades helping kids and taking care of people in the communities that he's played in. You'd have a hard time finding a more perfect human being if AI created him. The Blackhawks and scum like you have destroyed him when he's done nothing wrong.

He'll get his retribution one day. I'm confident in that. Hopefully, cancel culture and people like you are the ones that are canceled.

- CGYFlames13

How do you know what he did or didnt do?!
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Nov 28 @ 11:38 PM ET
Of course it is. With the far left, it always is. They ultimately seek to destroy everyone that isn't part of their cult. Perry is no different. His life is shattered because of lies. Only the left does that.
- CGYFlames13

He can sue if he wants to. I doubt he will.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 28 @ 11:41 PM ET
Alright then appears there is a need for a veteran who can mentor the kids on defense. But at what price and how difficult to pry away from another team. Of course only Murphy would get chomped because you cannot move S Jones big contract aka the albatross.

Both Tinordi and Zaitsev represent depth and may stick around through next season. I envision both DelMastro and Allen needing at least roughly half season two in the AHL

- jhawk59


I am hoping the reason the Hawks acquired Bouvillier was when Tinordi comes back Zaitsev can go n waivers and sent to the A while still staying above the cap floor.

Both Tinordi and Zaitsev contracts end next season, and OMO neither are on the Hawks roster next season
rwilliams88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: carol stream
Joined: 02.20.2009

Nov 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
You guys are high if you think KK doesn’t belong in the NHL right now. He’s our best defender, which says nothing. His partner is one of the worst in the league. Go look at Murphy’s advanced stats and I’ll tell you why Korchinski can’t get out of his own end.
- ObeseOprah

Sorry, but Vlasic is the hawks best defender at the moment and it’s not really close!!
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
What Korchinski is right now is completely irrelevant. Now doesn’t matter. Two to four years matters. There’s lots he has to learn and it’s going to be difficult for him to learn it in the NHL. I’ve seen lots of good players come up maybe too soon, start making mistakes, lose their confidence and either have difficulty recovering or never recovering. And I agree, the fact that the veteran defensemen on the team can’t mentor him is a huge problem. Like I said take him off the powerplay, and focus on him playing defense, on making good decisions.
- paulr


He's fine, sure he had a rough 1st period, but it didn't help Johnson didn't cover for him twice. Our forwards struggle covering for the dman activating.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 28 @ 11:45 PM ET
Sorry, but Vlasic is the hawks best defender at the moment and it’s not really close!!
- rwilliams88


I agree
ObeseOprah
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.17.2014

Nov 28 @ 11:47 PM ET
I am hoping the reason the Hawks acquired Bouvillier was when Tinordi comes back Zaitsev can go n waivers and sent to the A while still staying above the cap floor.

Both Tinordi and Zaitsev contracts end next season, and OMO neither are on the Hawks roster next season

- LAHawk

I think Beauvillier’s trade is half warm body and half needing to replace Perry’s $4M cap hit.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 28 @ 11:50 PM ET
Alright then appears there is a need for a veteran who can mentor the kids on defense. But at what price and how difficult to pry away from another team. Of course only Murphy would get chomped because you cannot move S Jones big contract aka the albatross.

Both Tinordi and Zaitsev represent depth and may stick around through next season. I envision both DelMastro and Allen needing at least roughly half season two in the AHL

- jhawk59

What isn't mentioned in all of this discussion about KK is what a defenceman needs as support from the forward group he is on the ice with. Its a 5 man team game and the Hawks aren't exactly icing facsimiles of the 1980's NY Islander forward lines.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 28 @ 11:51 PM ET
Agree 100%, they just need him to keep it simple for now, and no more power play, lessen his load.
Edit- noticed another guy from north of the border mentioned this earlier.

- Angotti


Nah he's the future, let him keep playing it. Confidence, he's learning and he's young, and i haven't seen Korchinski get blown up this season, so he's avoiding the big hits and making good plays, and his fair share of mistakes.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 28 @ 11:58 PM ET
He's fine, sure he had a rough 1st period, but it didn't help Johnson didn't cover for him twice. Our forwards struggle covering for the dman activating.
- BetweenTheDots

Korchinski passing to the point he vacated was his fault, not Johnson’s. And the second goal he passed back to the Seattle player who scored. Both goals were directly KK’s fault. But as I’ve said, he’s a rookie, he’s going to make mistakes. Both mistakes are fixable. I’m glad LR took him off the power play when he saw his mistakes. It allowed him to regroup.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Nov 29 @ 12:03 AM ET
Korchinski passing to the point he vacated was his fault, not Johnson’s. And the second goal he passed back to the Seattle player who scored. Both goals were directly KK’s fault. But as I’ve said, he’s a rookie, he’s going to make mistakes. Both mistakes are fixable. I’m glad LR took him off the power play when he saw his mistakes. It allowed him to regroup.
- paulr


I guess Pang doesn't know what he's talking about, i saw the samething he did
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Nov 29 @ 12:06 AM ET
I think Beauvillier’s trade is half warm body and half needing to replace Perry’s $4M cap hit.
- ObeseOprah

For a team starved of skill among their forward group Beauvillier, can't hurt. So he basically replaces Hall & AA on the ice and Perry's cap hit. And they can let him walk as a UFA after this year.

The Canucks have better talent than him up front and unloading the salary was giood for them. He might pot 10-12 goals with the Hawks.
333inthe3rd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.04.2015

Nov 29 @ 12:07 AM ET
I think Beauvillier’s trade is half warm body and half needing to replace Perry’s $4M cap hit.
- ObeseOprah


What do we know about Beauvillier? The stats page says late first rounder, 26 years old, gets around 40 points a season, with okay possession metrics. I haven't really watched him play, and don't know how he affects a locker room. Seems like they really did Vancouver a solid with this trade, as it frees up space for them to make moves at the deadline should they continue to play as they have been. I suppose if he pays well enough, they can flip him for something at the deadline.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Nov 29 @ 12:10 AM ET
I guess Pang doesn't know what he's talking about, i saw the samething he did
- BetweenTheDots

Pang’s assessment was incorrect
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:16 AM ET
Think AA, with worse hands.
- DarthKane


Have you watched Beauvillier with VAN? I haven't seen but a period here and there.. But, kid came up as a 20 yr old and stuck. Saw him in the preseason and thought this guy can move and is slippery. Put him in my black book and drafted him in the 23rdis rd for the next 3 yrs assuming he's a nice swing late in the draft.

Beauvillier got some prime top 6 minutes with Nelson, Barzal, Lee but nothing clicked........ I watched him a good bit for fantasy and found with NYI he can flat out skate with speed and on his edges, a darter at times, decent work rate, slippery/silky type at 5ft 11in 180lbs, good hands but not a finisher, always thought he looked poised and polished even as a youngster.

He's a pro and can skate with 500 NHL games and scored at about .4 pts per. He'll fit with what KD is trying to do and would guess he gets top 6 minutes on a contact yr!!

Now, he's overpaid at 4 mil per and gives a surprising VAN club valuable cap room AND it costs CHI a 5th rd pick???
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:22 AM ET
For a team starved of skill among their forward group Beauvillier, can't hurt. So he basically replaces Hall & AA on the ice and Perry's cap hit. And they can let him walk as a UFA after this year.

The Canucks have better talent than him up front and unloading the salary was giood for them. He might pot 10-12 goals with the Hawks.

- RickJ


Indeed..... Beauvillier will fit with + skating/speed and reasonably skilled hands. .... How has he looked with VAN and where was he usually slotted?

A good move.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Nov 29 @ 12:35 AM ET
What Korchinski is right now is completely irrelevant. Now doesn’t matter. Two to four years matters. There’s lots he has to learn and it’s going to be difficult for him to learn it in the NHL. I’ve seen lots of good players come up maybe too soon, start making mistakes, lose their confidence and either have difficulty recovering or never recovering. And I agree, the fact that the veteran defensemen on the team can’t mentor him is a huge problem. Like I said take him off the powerplay, and focus on him playing defense, on making good decisions.
- paulr


Preach!........ Simply said a 19 yr old Dman is getting NHL reps and isn't overwhelmed or has he regressed. .. Could not have hoped for better for all 3 rookie Dmen, 4 now with Phillips looking better and better.

Kid is fine but let's watch him hit the rookie wall around 45 games. That will be a great test for all the rookie Dmen, especially those outa jrs or the NCAA.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Nov 29 @ 12:43 AM ET
Next column by Zach we can expect a factoid on Beauvilier. He was part of a package trade from NYI to Vancouver.. Barzal was the earlier selection with Beauvilier about mid range in the same draft.
busmaster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 08.06.2010

Nov 29 @ 1:21 AM ET
Last two games 98's been 0-0-0 with a -2. Perhaps what's going on with Perry's affecting him for some reason...
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Nov 29 @ 1:43 AM ET
Last two games 98's been 0-0-0 with a -2. Perhaps what's going on with Perry's affecting him for some reason...
- busmaster


Doesn't help that Kurashev is the closest thing that he has to a top 6 forward to skate with. Hopefully, Beauvillier can add a spark. I've got to wonder if Bedard is already feeling some fatigue from the NHL grind. The only way the Perry thing would be bothering him is if it was true, or he had some reason to consider it as being true.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Nov 29 @ 4:43 AM ET
Indeed..... Beauvillier will fit with + skating/speed and reasonably skilled hands. .... How has he looked with VAN and where was he usually slotted?

A good move.

- Mr Ricochet



Head scratcher to me. For Anderson to go down now, he is exposed to waivers. Do you think he clears? Checks a lot of boxes for a cash strapped team.

Only waiver exempt forwards are Rand Guttman. When Aa comes off of IR, if you don’t want to expose Anderson, I guess Gutman goes back. Unless they are planning on putting Zaitsev on waivers to go to the A when Tinordi comes off IR, then Phillips goes back.

Of course depends on if there are other injuries.

Thought KD said yesterday, he wanted to look internally first before exploring a trade.
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