That’s the point

He was too worried about being liked
Can’t be that way as an NHL GM
Buy low, sell high
- mr.sir

Yep, could've kept McCann and flipped him at the TDL for more than Holl or Kerfoot. (who both walked for nothing any way, the Dubas way )

Plus, the Cap Hit issue has been the issue this whole time due to the Core 4. I don't think any of them are over paid necessarily, I do think at least one should be gone to balance the roster though. My choice has always been JT.

McCann as a 2C and an extra $5/6M in cap space would have been awesome!!!

The next week or two will be more telling in how the NHLPA reacts.

If there are absolutely no complaints or special handling of how this out-of-cycle contract termination has been handled from either Perry or the Player's Association - then he's done.

I imagine those conversations are being held. As of right now, neither his contract nor his buyout are reported against Chicago's cap number on Capfriendly. While they have enough flexibility to not care, the league needs to decide what it's doing and how it's managing this - and I truly expect it's in concert with the PA to the best of their ability.

For the record, if this is the outcome - we don't need Corey Perry.
- Monkeypunk

It really depends.

Bourne made a good point that if the moral police kept players away from the league than all teams would have players exiled.

It could have been both the player and the person involved, or it could have been all Perry.

At the end of the day teams won’t bring him on if what he did was terrible.

What doom and gloom? After 20 games, the leafs are an ok middle of the playoffs pack of teams with 2 more wins than losses.
There's no doom and gloom, its early.
- Fakepartofme

There is doom and gloom, open your eyes.

Ffs you are on hockeybuzz are you blind ?

Not keeping McCann instead of Kerfoot or Holl in the Seattle expansion draft was a dumb ass move too don't forget.
- underhill14

Forgot about that, good catch.

Speaking of good catch, the Tilapia for lunch was fantastic!

I respect your opinion, but look at the players listed by the previous posters. Look at the returns.
I wish Dubas the best in Pittsburg, but Im happy hes not our GM anymore,

Gnomesayin?
- Snot Dillingham

I think he has bad and good in his deals. I'm not overly amazed by anything he did, but he still probably managed more good than bad. But he was a very polarizing guy for a lot of fans, so the scrutiny is surprisingly heavy.

The Bad

I felt Kadri had to go, but I wish we'd gotten a better return than Barrie & Kerfoot.

Marchment has had one decent season - and yeah he's a big body who would still be useful, don't get me wrong, but he's probably not as valuable as made out to be. Still better than Malgin.

Trading a first to dump Marleau. I get that it was the price, but it did suck - especially after a down year where the team underachieved.


The Meh

It sucked to lose Brown, but getting out from under Zaitsev was the result.

Foligno was a high price to pay - but ultimately it was the result (his injury) that hurt more than the deal itself. That price was paid for nothing - but the investment had potential. In other words on the surface it wasn't a bad deal - it was the TDL price you paid for that opportunity; but in hindsight it was a bad result.

Trading down 8 or 9 spots or whatever it was to dump Mrazek. It was probably really a big nothing burger other than moving us out of the optics of the first round, but if you have four or five prospects you think are roughly equivalent in that 25-40 range, you make this deal all day long.

The Good

The Muzzin and Campbell deals both helped us. We lost some prospect/draft capital and Trevor Moore in the deals, but they favoured us.

Richie for Lyubushkin was a good deal for us. We can female dog that Ritchie being signed was a bad investment - but really who cares? Everyone wanted him signed, he got signed, and then he sucked - and instead of doubling down on him, they traded him for a piece we needed and used well.

Giordano and Blackwell for 2 2nds and a 3rd was a good deal. Gio is still helping us today. It's a pretty fair price.

Acquiring Timmins. I really like Timmins. Maybe I like him more than I should for what he's accomplished, but he has the tools to be a top-4 guy if he can stay healthy and get the opportunity.

The ROR/Acciari deal. Yeah we gave up a lot (1st, 2nd, 3rd, Abramov), but it was a solid deal. The real shame was that we didn't keep either of them because they were both gamers.

Trevor Moore!
- mr.sir

For the love of Wendel, No Moore!

I think he has bad and good in his deals. I'm not overly amazed by anything he did, but he still probably managed more good than bad. But he was a very polarizing guy for a lot of fans, so the scrutiny is surprisingly heavy.

The Bad

I felt Kadri had to go, but I wish we'd gotten a better return than Barrie & Kerfoot.

Marchment has had one decent season - and yeah he's a big body who would still be useful, don't get me wrong, but he's probably not as valuable as made out to be. Still better than Malgin.

Trading a first to dump Marleau. I get that it was the price, but it did suck - especially after a down year where the team underachieved.


The Meh

It sucked to lose Brown, but getting out from under Zaitsev was the result.

Foligno was a high price to pay - but ultimately it was the result (his injury) that hurt more than the deal itself. That price was paid for nothing - but the investment had potential. In other words on the surface it wasn't a bad deal - it was the TDL price you paid for that opportunity; but in hindsight it was a bad result.

Trading down 8 or 9 spots or whatever it was to dump Mrazek. It was probably really a big nothing burger other than moving us out of the optics of the first round, but if you have four or five prospects you think are roughly equivalent in that 25-40 range, you make this deal all day long.

The Good

The Muzzin and Campbell deals both helped us. We lost some prospect/draft capital and Trevor Moore in the deals, but they favoured us.

Richie for Lyubushkin was a good deal for us. We can female dog that Ritchie being signed was a bad investment - but really who cares? Everyone wanted him signed, he got signed, and then he sucked - and instead of doubling down on him, they traded him for a piece we needed and used well.

Giordano and Blackwell for 2 2nds and a 3rd was a good deal. Gio is still helping us today. It's a pretty fair price.

Acquiring Timmins. I really like Timmins. Maybe I like him more than I should for what he's accomplished, but he has the tools to be a top-4 guy if he can stay healthy and get the opportunity.

The ROR/Acciari deal. Yeah we gave up a lot (1st, 2nd, 3rd, Abramov), but it was a solid deal. The real shame was that we didn't keep either of them because they were both gamers.
- Monkeypunk

As a fan all I can ask for is a GM that’s not bad.

Signing meh players to term is the big one.

Lou is the worst GM right now, I get maybe he was good back in the day but my god he’s too old and doesn’t understand the new NHL.

If it wasn’t for sorokin that team would be headed to purgatory.

Look I dont hate the guy, but look at the returns for said players. He was inexperienced and built a skilled but soft team. Got fleeced like a blanket routinely.

I think the barista on the first floor is a good guy, but he should not be upstairs in a management role. Just sayin.
- Snot Dillingham

I think that list of players ignores the context in which they were not Leafs any longer. Just putting up a list of good players who used to be Leafs is not the story. I'm not even arguing about Dubas or not, just think that's a meaningless way to analyze his tenure.

Look I dont hate the guy, but look at the returns for said players. He was inexperienced and built a skilled but soft team. Got fleeced like a blanket routinely.

I think the barista on the first floor is a good guy, but he should not be upstairs in a management role. Just sayin.
- Snot Dillingham

I think that list of players ignores the context in which they were not Leafs any longer. Just putting up a list of good players who used to be Leafs is not the story. I'm not even arguing about Dubas or not, just think that's a meaningless way to analyze his tenure.

I think that list of players ignores the context in which they were not Leafs any longer. Just putting up a list of good players who used to be Leafs is not the story. I'm not even arguing about Dubas or not, just think that's a meaningless way to analyze his tenure.
- Zezel

Hyman Kadri Verhaeghe
Moore ROR Barabanov
Mikheyev Kerfoot Lafferty
Marchment Amadio Brown
Bunting Kessel JVR
McCann Noesen
😃

I think that list of players ignores the context in which they were not Leafs any longer. Just putting up a list of good players who used to be Leafs is not the story. I'm not even arguing about Dubas or not, just think that's a meaningless way to analyze his tenure.
- Zezel

I dont think its meaningless, its all part of the overall evaluation.

I think that list of players ignores the context in which they were not Leafs any longer. Just putting up a list of good players who used to be Leafs is not the story. I'm not even arguing about Dubas or not, just think that's a meaningless way to analyze his tenure.
- Zezel

I dont think its meaningless, its all part of the overall evaluation.

I dont think its meaningless, its all part of the overall evaluation.
- Snot Dillingham

Just not a very useful one imo.

Another too many men on the ice penalty. So what's so hard about fixing this issue? Keefe needs to be held accountable for this. His team, his system......why isn't this fixed by now? It could have cost them the game.
- PrinceLH

*Another too many men on the ice penalty that the officials completely (frank)ing made up, is the words you're looking for.

Anyone with a brain looking at that can tell it's literally just a line change.

new blog everyone

https://twitter.com/TSNHo...tatus/1729905080550219940

Im calling he finishes 8 shy of the record. (Hopefully)

Fans like me? Youre the one posting he would get ripped to shreds.
Tkachuk would be loved here.
Marner gets ripped by fans due to his cap hit.
Quit whining.
- Fakepartofme

Yeah, I think that's definitely part of it, but I think it's mostly because he's playing just terrible hockey right now.

He did his absolute best to try and lose that game last night. Was actually impressive.

The Leafs and Lightning are both playoff teams at the moment. Lightning have played three more games and barely hold the second wildcard.

Honestly, without Vasi, this is better than I hoped for the Bolts.

I expected a little more from the Leafs so far, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as some of the doomsayers are claiming.

The Klinger risk didn't pay off, and there are a lot of new faces to integrate into the system. Young goalie. It's gonna take time to gel properly. Let's see where things stand when Xmas rolls around.
- GalacticStone

You guys still have a shot at the playoffs. Someone told me you were done.