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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
You think because we don't hear him speak anymore he isn't in on things?
- manvanfan

Wow lots of laughy faces, guess there must be a point here, Allvin is GM, and makes trades, I'm sure that several other individuals are in on things also, but you are insinuating that Rutherford is the only guy which is false.

See how stupid is that, almost condescending like.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:00 PM ET
Here ya go Nighty.
- manvanfan

Tyđź‘Ť

Peace doesn’t interest you or is it the price tag?
Tanev’s price tag?
Boqvist is a thought just not wild about his defence but could improve.
TVR 32yrs old is stop gap imo. He like Tanev comes down to cost.

If cannot get a proven top 4 RHD for this season I’d look at high end prospects for picks.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
That right side on "D" is still a weak point behind Hronek, who's been so good with 23 points in 23 games and a +14, he's been a great partner for Hughes and really good on his own as well. Allvin is looking like a young genius Yzerman GM.
- Pacificgem


Hronek was struggling a bit before he was paired with QH. It's sorted now...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
I’m also open for a top 4 LHD. Cole or Soucy could switch over. Gavrikov was once my guy resigned for 2 years at $5.875m. Pesce is 29 so figure roughly 5/7m might do it.

Who for LHD idk yet haven’t really looked into that option yet.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
Wow lots of laughy faces, guess there must be a point here, Allvin is GM, and makes trades, I'm sure that several other individuals are in on things also, but you are insinuating that Rutherford is the only guy which is false.

See how stupid is that, almost condescending like.

- Makita

Sort of like "Good luck with your triplets". So I guess almost condescending like comments in here, if you had any idea what it actually is doesn't just start and stop with me in here?

Just so we are clear you are saying that Rutherford is "not in on things"?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:19 PM ET
Don’t see any big trades coming soon league wide. I think all the tire kicking & asks are fairly well known. Give it til just before Xmas the soonest something happens. Such a tight market & not much for big names out there. Lead up to the TDL is more likely.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Sort of like "Good luck with your triplets". So I guess almost condescending like comments in here, if you had any idea what it actually is doesn't just start and stop with me in here?

Just so we are clear you are saying that Rutherford is "not in on things"?

- manvanfan

JR is is on in things to the degree that PA confides in him imo. 2-way street on continuing to build a winner. They work together in their own capacity. PA has free reign.

Buyouts & retention has to go through JR.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:22 PM ET
Tyđź‘Ť

Peace doesn’t interest you or is it the price tag?
Tanev’s price tag?
Boqvist is a thought just not wild about his defence but could improve.
TVR 32yrs old is stop gap imo. He like Tanev comes down to cost.

If cannot get a proven top 4 RHD for this season I’d look at high end prospects for picks.

- Nighthawk

The price for Pesce not peace is gonna be huge and I can't see Carolina getting rid of probably their best defencemen.
Idk what Tanev cost is. He has a 10 team NT list.
TVR is not a top 4 but is more stable than Juulsen and Friedman.

At the tdl a team could take a turn and a Hronek type deal could come up again. If it happened 2 tdl's in a row, that would be great.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:27 PM ET
JR is is on in things to the degree that PA confides in him imo. 2-way street on continuing to build a winner. They work together in their own capacity. PA has free reign.

Buyouts & retention has to go through JR.

- Nighthawk

I was told that
Rutherford is the President not the GM.
So that Jr obviously wasn't in on the trades. I responded with laughing that he thinks that JR wasn't "in on things". I got a condescending answer and I gave one back. Somehow I'm getting a lesson from some guy about how it's just me.

Allvin has been under Rutherford for years, pretty well "protege".
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:29 PM ET
The price for Pesce not peace is gonna be huge and I can't see Carolina getting rid of probably their best defencemen.
Idk what Tanev cost is. He has a 10 team NT list.
TVR is not a top 4 but is more stable than Juulsen and Friedman.

At the tdl a team could take a turn and a Hronek type deal could come up again. If it happened 2 tdl's in a row, that would be great.

- manvanfan

I peg Pesce at a Kuz/1st/3rd
Tanev a 2nd not a Flames fit though.
JVR is ok for depth cost us scoring help for the Capitals.

Pretty much leaves it to more grinding the phones & let time work itself out to when opportunity comes around. No rush to force a trade being it’ll be a pivotal deal.

Pesce comes down to his contract ask. Canes want to keep him but only at their price is my feel.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 29 @ 1:30 PM ET
Sort of like "Good luck with your triplets". So I guess almost condescending like comments in here, if you had any idea what it actually is doesn't just start and stop with me in here?

Just so we are clear you are saying that Rutherford is "not in on things"?

- manvanfan

Seriously, as Lefty stated, a bit over the top, I'm pretty sure I wrote "I'm sure that several other individuals are in on things also," just to be clear.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
I peg Pesce at a Kuz/1st/3rd
Tanev a 2nd not a Flames fit though.
JVR is ok for depth cost us scoring help for the Capitals.

Pretty much leaves it to more grinding the phones & let time work itself out to when opportunity comes around. No rush to force a trade being it’ll be a pivotal deal.

Pesce comes down to his contract ask. Canes want to keep him but only at their price is my feel.

- Nighthawk

I'd like to see more McWard.

“Sometimes guys in the minors, they actually play better in the NHL than the minors because it’s more structured. I think Cole is one of those guys,” Tocchet continued when discussing his lineup decision. “He thrives in a structured environment, so we will see how he does tonight.”

Played him 10 minutes
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:41 PM ET
Seriously, as Lefty stated, a bit over the top, I'm pretty sure I wrote "I'm sure that several other individuals are in on things also," just to be clear.
- Makita

I'm pretty sure I wrote that Trader Jim was also "in on things" just to be clear. Not the only one.

Get real how did you think I was gonna respond to you. Should I have asked for more? A bit over the top like you calling me condescending for a comment but not to your buddies?

You don't like me and want to one up me. You want to trash talk better expect it to come back.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
Pesce/Trikozov/5th
for
Kuz/1st/3rd

Lemme have it lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
Tyđź‘Ť

Peace doesn’t interest you or is it the price tag?
Tanev’s price tag?
Boqvist is a thought just not wild about his defence but could improve.
TVR 32yrs old is stop gap imo. He like Tanev comes down to cost.

If cannot get a proven top 4 RHD for this season I’d look at high end prospects for picks.

- Nighthawk

Flames are only 10 points behind the Canucks I highly doubt they are trading anyone lol. But Zadorov did ask to be moved so there is that....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
Yup a test drive & will cost less next contract. Ups his game then low risk & good return.
- Nighthawk


I know you like him but you can't alays be right like me.

I never really was a fan of his right from the get go but did realize he was sent here to match money to accommodate the trade with Bo.

I am glad he is gone. After his initial few weeks his play declined.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
Flames are only 10 points behind the Canucks I highly doubt they are trading anyone lol. But Zadorov did ask to be moved so there is that....
- LordHumungous

Lindholm, Hanifin, Zadarov, Tanev have all asked to be moved just quietly.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
I'm pretty sure I wrote that Trader Jim was also "in on things" just to be clear. Not the only one.

Get real how did you think I was gonna respond to you. Should I have asked for more? A bit over the top like you calling me condescending for a comment but not to your buddies?

You don't like me and want to one up me. You want to trash talk better expect it to come back.

- manvanfan

You are condescending with most posters, that's just who you are. the 20 was the reference to over the top. Not trying to one up you, just responding to your posts honestly.

Carry on.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
Pesce/Trikozov/5th
for
Kuz/1st/3rd

Lemme have it lol

- Nighthawk

Initial not enough on Van's side but Carolina is still very much a contender. They would have to really fall hard or Pesce to say he wants out.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:56 PM ET
Lindholm, Hanifin, Zadarov, Tanev have all asked to be moved just quietly.
- manvanfan

lol I'm not sure on the inner workings of the Flames but it did appear Backlund wanted out at one time too. Winning changes alot of attitudes. Backlund appears to be embracing the C as well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 1:57 PM ET
I'd say the Canucks aren't too interested in a RHD that isn't NHL ready.
- manvanfan


Then why do we have Myers?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 29 @ 1:58 PM ET
Then why do e have Myers?

- VANTEL

Because Edler is gone and we need someone to shit on.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 2:05 PM ET
Because Edler is gone and we need someone to shit on.
- LordHumungous


Aside from Garland's contract PA pretty well has a clean slate next year. It is going to be interesting the to see how he goes.

I mean he is pretty well living in the house that Benning built but going forward he has the freedom to pick and choose.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
krufrank (Cutting Edge Comics)
@krufrank
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19m
Canucks have recalled Irwin + Karlsson from Abby. Bains is injured otherwise he would have been recalled. Hirose sent back down to Abby.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 29 @ 2:11 PM ET
Then why do we have Myers?

- VANTEL

Benning

Sorry for the truthful answer
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